Fire Emblem Heroes: (ed. NOT) Still Waiting for Tellius

[Edible]

I'd use the +ATK one over the +SPD one, yeah.

Edit: Oh right, Camus tomorrow!  For all your spear cavalry ranged counter needs.

[MewMewHeart]

I'd use the +ATK one over the +SPD one, yeah.

Edit: Oh right, Camus tomorrow!  For all your spear cavalry ranged counter needs.

Camus is a Grand Hero battle???

[Edible]

Yes indeed.

[Mеа]

yay. another. distant. counter. unit.

[Zengar Zombolt]

I don't think Camus' going to be that relevant outside of Grani's shield. Sure, it gives him inmunity to the advantage wolf tomes have against cavs, and distant counter means that he can fight back from any range. But if you notice his sad, sad res, it means the distant counter is going to be relevant only against archers if anything.

[commandercool]

The much much more important thing it that he's inheritable, right? Get ready to see Distant Counter on 50%+ of all units ever in PVP. Slot A is definitely the hardest to fill so it won't be too costly. Now I gotta decide if I want to swap my HP+/Seal Resist FCorrin over to Distant Counter and Quick Riposte. That should handle all archers forever and free up BunCam from needing to run Iote's Shield, so I can put Fury on her.

[Mеа]

I think the distant counter is built into his weapon

e: also, I find slot B a lot harder to fill than slot A. Slot A is good in general at acutely sharpening your unit's strengths while slot B tends to be the flexible, meta dependent skill. Aside from the obviously good B skills like drag back for fliers, I mean.

[commandercool]

Oh it is on his weapon? Fair enough, I had seen it reported early on that it wasn't. This is proooobably for the better.

B skill can easily be filled with Wings Of Mercy (when available anyway) or Swordbreaker. I also think Quick Riposte is extremely underrated.

A skill is pretty much Fury 3 and maybe HP+... I'd love it if there were more Life And Death 3, Death Blow 3, and Distant Defense available, but a lot of theoretically solid options are just very costly.

[Mеа]

The B skill while adding a lot of individuality to a build, is a little limited by circumstances, making it rather difficult to identify the 'correct' choice for any character. The A skill on the other hand is, as you say, most often stuck with excellent choices in LaD or fury, but can be hard to obtain.

So yeah. B skill has lots of situational, easy to obtain options, while A skills are solid buffs that tend to be harder to obtain. In the sense that it's more costly to fill I get what you mean.

Not that I play mages, so I can't say I would be terribly distraught over a sudden flood of distant counters everywhere. I still think close counter is much more cancer.

[The Greatest Dog]

Quick Riposte is great on Xander. Doubling anything that tries to hit me? Hell to the yeah.

Though it typically only works once, I have a healer I guess???

[MewMewHeart]

Vantage on distance counter users makes me happy!

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Edit: Let's go fishing for brides shall we! 257 orbs (Yes I usually buy the 140 and 75 orbs)

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First Roll Set: 2 Reds, 2 Grays, and 1 Blue.

Result: dupe 4* Chrom, dupe 4* Hana, dupe 4* Sully, dupe 3* Niles, and dupe 4* Felicia.

Comment: Game pls.
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Second Roll Set: 4 Grays and 1 Red.

Result: dupe 4* Lilina, dupe 3* Gordin, dupe 3* Azama, dupe 4* Matthew, dupe 3* Lissa.

Comment: Game PLS!?!
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Third Roll Set: 1 Gray, 2 Green, 1 Blue, and 1 Red.

Result: dupe 3* Palla, dupe 3* Cecilia, dupe 4* Barte, dupe 3* Florina, and dupe 3* Lissa

Comment: I'm going to pretend that the rng is being a nice person right now.
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Fourth Roll Set: 1 Red, 1 Green, 2 Blues, and 1 Gray.

Result: dupe 3* Frederick, dupe 4* Shanna, dupe 4* Est, dupe 3* Stahl, and dupe 3* Saizo.

Comment: -goes to buy 75 more orbs because I'm totally not salty-
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252 let's play the salt game again.  :V

Fifth Roll Set: 2 Grays, 2 Blues, and 1 Green.

Result: dupe 3* Serra, dupe 4* Odin/Owen, dupe 3* Cherche, dupe 3* Gaius, and dupe 3* Sully.

Comment: I guess won't need to buy salt tonight.
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Sixth Roll Set: 3 Reds and 2 Greens. (Crap!)

Result: dupe 3* Draug, dupe 3* Sophia, dupe 4* Nino, dupe 4* Camilla, and dupe 4* Erika.

Comment: At least I have free Pivot for Xander and I tossed another Pivot from a dupe Marth onto Camus.
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Seventh Roll Set: 3 Grays, 1 Green, and 1 Red.

Result:  dupe 4* Saizo, dupe 3* Lissa, dupe 4* Barte, dupe 4* Adult Tiki, and BRIDE LYN GET!!!!

Comment: 1 BRIDE DOWN 3 MORE TO GO!
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Eighth Roll Set: 3 Reds and 2 Blues.

Result: dupe 3* Lon'qu (Free Vantage to give to Camus), dupe 3* Shanna, dupe 3* Selena/Severa, dupe 3* Eliwood, and Bride Caeda!

Comment: 2 BRIDES DOWN 2 MORE TO GO!
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Ninth Roll Set: 3 Greens and 2 Grays.

Result: dupe 3* Nino, dupe 3* Frederick, dupe 3* Gunter, dupe 4* Saizo, dupe 4* Felicia.

Comment: This is fine.
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Tenth Roll Set: 2 Blues, 1 Green, 1 Red, and 1 Gray.

Result:  dupe 3* Donnel, dupe 4* Lilina, dupe 3* Frederick, dupe 3* F. Corrin, and dupe 3* Saizo.

Comment: Anything to get that rate up.
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Eleventh Roll Set: 3 Greens, 1 Gray, and 1 Blue.

Result:  dupe 4* Nino, dupe 4* Arthur,  dupe 4* Frederick, dupe 4* Serra, and dupe 3* Est.

Comment: Rate up! Rate up! Rate up!
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Twelfth Roll Set: 3 Blues and 2 Grays!

Result: dupe 3* Sully, dupe 3* Odin/Owen, dupe 3* Gaius, dupe 4* Donnel, and dupe Bride Lyn.

Comment: OOF! This might be another Celica gacha botch if this keeps up!  :ohdear:
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Thirteenth Roll Set: 2 Grays, 2 Reds, and 1 Blue.

Result:  dupe 4* Lon'qu, dupe 4* Seliph, dupe 3* Niles, dupe 4* Azama, and dupe 3* Donnel.

Comment: Not... good.
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Fourteenth Roll Set: 3 Grays, 1 Reds, and 1 Blue.

Result:  dupe 3* Draug, dupe 3* Setsuna, dupe 3* Setsuna (AGAIN!), dupe 3* Felicia, and dupe 3* Shanna.

Comment: Think this might be the end of the road for me.
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Fifteenth Roll Set: 4 Reds and 1 Green.

Result: dupe 3* Henry, dupe 3 Nino, dupe 3* Laslow, dupe 3* Palla, and dupe 3* Palla (AGAIN!).

Comment: -sighs- This streak is bad I might try again when I get paid again, but I want to save up for Superdimension Neptune that's coming out on steam in two sweeks also.
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-Ok I think I might have a gambling problem with this game bought 75 orbs AGAIN-

Sixteenth Roll Set: 1 Blue, 3 Greens, and 1 Red.

Result: dupe 4* Beruka, dupe 3* Frederick, dupe 3* Gunter, dupe 4* Olivia, and dupe 3* Subaki
 
Comment: Not cool.
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Eighteenth Roll Set: 3 Reds 1 Blue, and 1 Green.

Result:  dupe 4* Henry, dupe 3* Palla, dupe 3* Lon'qu, dupe 4* Hawkeye,  and dupe 3* Jagen.

Comment: UGH!!!
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Nineteenth Roll Set: 3 Reds, 1 Green, and 1 Gray.

Result: dupe 3* Sophia, dupe 4* Beruka, dupe 5* Roy (FUCKING HELL!!!!!!), dupe 3 Hinata, dupe 3* Clarine.

Comment: FUCKING ROY KILLED MY RATE!!!!!!!!
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Twentieth Roll Set: 2 Greens and 3 Blues.

Result: dupe 3* Gunter, dupe 4* Barte, dupe 3* Est, dupe 3* Jagen, and dupe 3* Robin.
 
Comment: RIP ME!
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Last Roll....

Twenty-One Roll Set: 2 Reds, 1 Green, 1 Gray, and 1 Blue.

Result: dupe 3* Beruka, dupe 3* Raigh, dupe 3* Hinata, dupe 3* Oboro, and dupe 4 Maria.
 
Comment: REKT'D BY RNG!!!!!

Ugh... nope, nope, and nope didn't get the bride set it's ok though at least I've learned a hard earned lesson, I'll go buy Pikmin 3 digitally for my Wii U and call it a night. (T_T)

-goes to sob-

[hyorinryu]

I don't think Camus' going to be that relevant outside of Grani's shield. Sure, it gives him inmunity to the advantage wolf tomes have against cavs, and distant counter means that he can fight back from any range. But if you notice his sad, sad res, it means the distant counter is going to be relevant only against archers if anything.

Isn't he blue Xander. Pretty sure people really like Xander. Same weapon, same ult.  Main difference I see that is that he has more balanced stats. While he doesn't have crazy armor, he has a lot of speed, so outside of Nino, you're probably not getting doubled by green mages. In that way, he does better against green mages than Xander does.

[commandercool]

Is this some kind of weird tactic or did somebody goof?

[MewMewHeart]

Is this some kind of weird tactic or did somebody goof?

They dun goofed....

[commandercool]

Fuuuck I just noticed I haven't gotten a single arena win this week. Tough crowd...

[7TC7]

So, was Camus the last Grand Hero Battle we knew about/where missing? Are all the boss only characters aside from the Heroes newcomers available now?
If so, I wonder who they are gonna go with next, or if they are just gonna keep repeating them until the main story gives us more.

[Dr Rawr]

new event seems pretty cool and seems like a good chance to possible blow through all these stamina potions.

[commandercool]

So, was Camus the last Grand Hero Battle we knew about/where missing? Are all the boss only characters aside from the Heroes newcomers available now?
If so, I wonder who they are gonna go with next, or if they are just gonna keep repeating them until the main story gives us more.

That's a good question. I don't know if we've worked through all of the qualifying enemies or not, but regardless, what happens once we do? Heroes-only characters as Grand Hero Battles? Characters who straight-up just aren't you j the game right now? Alternate versions of existing characters? There's a lot they could do. My money's on the Heroes villains I guess.

[Edible]

Bride Lyn get.  Unfortunately I can't say she'll see much use, but as soon as healers actually become useful...

They'll just keep adding new ones, I suppose.  Lloyd wasn't in the original GHB datamine info and Camus was.

Here's hoping we get Aversa.

[Moogs Parfait]

Skipping over Olivia

[Edible]

Okay, I've been playing around with Bride Lyn for a bit now, and her ability allows for some nice safe plays.  I no longer have to fear a +8 Vantage Hector, because poking him once with Lyn lets me chip him down with whoever else I have available or kite him as necessary.  She works quite well with Horseshit Murdercannon Bride Cordelia, with her boosted 60-something attack, 35 speed, and Brave Bow+.

[commandercool]

Yeah, I think Bride Lyn isn't a "when healers become good" thing, I think she IS a healer being good. She heals, which is great, and she has powerful other stuff she can do when she isn't healing.

[Conqueror]

Does attacking Vantage Hector with Lyn while he's under the vantage threshold still prevent him from attacking first? If so, I may try and pull a Lyn in anticipation of tougher PvE content.

[commandercool]

I believe so, right? Her weapon prevents counterattacks period, doesn't it?

[The Greatest Dog]

It's more that her B ability, Dazzling Staff, disables any counters from the enemy against Lyn, while being hit with her staff inflicts the "No counter" debuff for the turn.

[commandercool]

Oh right, I was thinking it was the opposite. Regardless, she has an ability that straight-up disables counters so she shouldn't have a problem with Vantage. I think she's intended as a Vantage-spam counter so it would be bad if she did.

[Edible]

I've tested that specific scenario, yeah.  Dazzling Staff disables counters period, Vantage or otherwise.

[MewMewHeart]

I've tested that specific scenario, yeah.  Dazzling Staff disables counters period, Vantage or otherwise.

Oh boy!

[Conqueror]

So apparently the Masked Marth reward for Tempest has the exact same stats (and probably skills) as neutral Lucina. Free Lucina for everyone - don't know how difficult it'll be to get her though.

[Mеа]

What is this tempest thing?