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Slap Triangle Adept on MRobin to easily counter over half of the meta.

Trying to think what that counters that I don't already handle with him. I lose the ability to one-shot Takumi and can still kill all sword lords (albeit not necessarily always in one hit). Does it let him take on sword pegasi or something? My team is already generally pretty great at handling sword lords because of FCorrin. Even though she takes super damage from many of them she can still generally singlehandedly take on a whole team of them.

Edit: Dang, Triangle Adept FCorrin might be nuts though. She and MRobin together can take down physical green units as of right now so I would lose that utility, but that might be really crazytown for defense.
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I've been working on leveling up some of my weaker units now that my main team is mostly at lv40:

Ninian/MRobin/FCorrin/Lissa

Thoughts:
Ninian... she gets better, right? Because so far she's just been a squishier, weaker Azura.
MRobin: I kind of looked past this dude because I got the 4* version of him and he just wasn't performing well. After 5*ing him and giving him the upgraded Blarraven, he's a fuckin' boss.
FCorrin: I see why people like her now. She's a TANK. She just sucks up the damage like it's nothing-- and often takes very little damage from axes, of all things. And then Lissa just heals her as if nothing happened. Not super offensive, though. Not yet at least?
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FCorrin: I see why people like her now. She's a TANK. She just sucks up the damage like it's nothing-- and often takes very little damage from axes, of all things. And then

Her damage output is never incredible, but between Seal Resist letting her hit hard on the backswing, high speed letting her often double up, and Draconic Aura's low cooldown working well with her high speed she can grind down enemies pretty quickly. And although her attack never becomes amazing she also gets a larger-than-normal strength boost from 4* to 5*. AND on top of all of that her Hone Attack passively boosts her DPS through others, so yeah, she contributes a lot. Definitely my favorite character in the game stats-wise.

Incidentally, I recommend giving her Pivot. It's really really handy for jumping in to tank for your squishies after they kill something.

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Trying to think what that counters that I don't already handle with him. I lose the ability to one-shot Takumi and can still kill all sword lords (albeit not necessarily always in one hit). Does it let him take on sword pegasi or something?
Because of Robin's tome, it gives him bonuses vs both reds and colorless, and he takes less damage from them as well. Not that he didn't already destroy Takumi, but now he can tank Kagero as well.


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Because of Robin's tome, it gives him bonuses vs both reds and colorless, and he takes less damage from them as well. Not that he didn't already destroy Takumi, but now he can tank Kagero as well.

Hmmm that makes sense. Interesting. I'm already pretty deep in the hole with Robin's SP, but I will take that into strong consideration. Although my Robin does survive against Kagero and one-shots her in return right now, but taking less damage would be nice I'm sure.

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MichalisIote's Shield was available for a little while earlier, and will be available again later this week.  Prepare for actually being able to use flyers without having to worry as much about tacos.

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I've been spamming blue summons throughout this banner trying to get Ninian, and while I didn't get her I did finally get Effie. She's 4* because 5* in the REM is a myth (although I'm not sure if it's even possible to pull a 5* Effie?) but I'm pretty happy with that. Might try the Fortify/Ward Armor team now just to see if it works at all.

MichalisIote's Shield was available for a little while earlier, and will be available again later this week.  Prepare for actually being able to use flyers without having to worry as much about tacos.

Is it on that new hero battle guy then? What do you mean available earlier?
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 02:56:16 pm by commandercool »

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His map was available for an hour about 4 hours ago, as a kind of early bird thing.

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His map was available for an hour about 4 hours ago, as a kind of early bird thing.
WHAT!?! How... did I miss that???

Also I admit Takumi is OVERPOWERED GOOD GOD I DUNNO IF HALF OF HIS SKILLS ARE INHERIT OR NOT ARE NOT BUT, GOD DAMN HE WAS A BITCH TO KILL TRYING TO DO THE MARCH QUEST FOR INT+.
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The announcement was only in japanese because they didn't want Americans complaining about waking up at 7 am est

It was a tie in event to some japanese stream iirc


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WHAT!?! How... did I miss that???

Also I admit Takumi is OVERPOWERED GOOD GOD I DUNNO IF HALF OF HIS SKILLS ARE INHERIT OR NOT ARE NOT BUT, GOD DAMN HE WAS A BITCH TO KILL TRYING TO DO THE MARCH QUEST FOR INT+.

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I pray to see Takumis at this point because MRobin gobbles them up all day long. They're free wins if you counter him hard enough. Seriously, if you have an MRobin of any star level I recommend maxing him, he pretty much handles the whole current meta.

Is there a Takumi inherit that lets him handle MRobin? Tomebreaker or something? Seems like something people will start to anti-meta if they can.

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People just run other counters to RobinM.  Nino and Julia are both popular choices and both crush him.

I think I've been seeing so much Julia lately because she just flat out obliterates a large percentage of the meta.

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Julia is definitely one of the things my team struggles with the most. I'm primarily running Lyn for her and Hector right now.

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Nino and Julia are both popular choices and both crush him.

I think I've been seeing so much Julia lately because she just flat out obliterates a large percentage of the meta.

and then felicia runs both of them over, perpetuating the cycle

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and then felicia runs both of them over, perpetuating the cycle
TBH so does Sanaki if she can one round him due to her atk growth I mean mines already has 41 atk at level 31.
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TBH so does Sanaki if she can one round him due to her atk growth I mean mines already has 41 atk at level 31.

but felicia also runs her over, perpetuating the cycle

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And Camilla steamrolls Felicia! But not much else because Camilla is seated pretty poorly in the meta frankly. She does handle most or all of the glass cannon mages, but she really struggles getting close to them safely because so much stuff unilaterally flattens her.

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Of course now Chirei is probably gonna freezedry Camilla with her because you said that.  (I kid, I kid, and an AI Camilla is undoubtedly going to be less deadly than a player-controlled one I know)
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Of course now Chirei is probably gonna freezedry Camilla with her because you said that.  (I kid, I kid, and an AI Camilla is undoubtedly going to be less deadly than a player-controlled one I know)

she was already one-rounding camillas with the silver dagger prefore I promoted her, camilla is small beans

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People just run other counters to RobinM.  Nino and Julia are both popular choices and both crush him.

I think I've been seeing so much Julia lately because she just flat out obliterates a large percentage of the meta.

Amusingly enough I ran into a team with a Julia and *three* MRobins last night. I run FRobin, which means Blue Tomebreaker.

Sadly it wasn't a flawless victory since the Hana I sent after Julia got blown up by the MRobin behind her, but it was an easy win regardless.

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Why not both??? ^^;;
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Camilla's one of my highest leveled units at the moment even though she's 4*. Since she's rather squishy though, I usually tend to hold her back a bit, so I'm trying something out by turning her into a bit of a support character after slapping Harsh Command on her. If that doesn't work out, I'm gonna see how Rally Attack does. Admittedly, she isn't as squishy as she used to be, but she still seems squishier than my Lissa, which is... something.

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So just for weird reference purposes I recorded all of the enemies I saw in PVP over the weekend. So for my last 18 games these are the enemy frequencies. Note that I never saw duplicates of an enemy within a single team so these are all spread out one per team, and my arena score was 4275 the whole time.

7/18 teams: Tiki (adult)

4/18 teams: Camilla, Effie, MRobin, Takumi

3/18 teams: Ephraim, Kagero, Lucina, Marth, Nowi, Roy, Sharena

2/18 teams: Cordelia, Lyn, Ninian, Olwen, Tharja

1/18 teams: Beruka, Erika, FCorrin, Felicia, Gunter, Hawkeye, Hector, Jeorge, Julia, Lissa, MCorrin, Minerva, Nino, Peri, Reinhardt, Ryoma, Sakura, Sheena

No appearances: Everyone else

Interesting results. I'm going to continue to keep track of this. It doesn't get us anywhere terribly specific, but it's at least a vaguely interesting snapshot of a particular corner of the meta on a particular weekend with a small sample size.

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7/18 teams: Tiki (adult)

people trying to abuse the lightning breath?

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Ran through arena last night now that I have one of the characters that give bonus points (which, I need to add, is another REALLY DUMB MECHANIC). Team was Ninian (20)/MRobin (40)/Camilla (40)/Lucina (40). Made pretty easy work of it all with few misplays and deaths and ended up with 39xx points. So close to the 4000 mark :(

What surprises me, though, is that all of my rounds were astonishingly straightforward. I don't think I saw more than one Takumi in 7 rounds. Lucky!

I wonder if the level of your leader determines the difficulty, in a sense-- because I feel like it should not have gone that smoothly considering that I was technically running 3.5 units (Ninian was useless unless she was dancing).
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The difficulty, as well as your overall score ceiling, is tied to your team's total base stat total. So having an underleveled character means you're fighting easier opponents and they may not all be max level, but your maximum possible score is lower than if your team was all max level and your opponents were harder.

Notably there's some kind of rebalancing coming up that will tweak how this is calculated, but I'm not sure if we're expecting the difference to be very large.

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That's nice uh don't touch any of my stuff please.

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Hmm. Not directly related to the mobage, but is FE Fates worth getting into? I've heard mixed reviews on it (granted, a lot of negativity I hear is from people who prefer the older games, which I couldn't get into as well). And if so, does the order in which you play them matter? I hear you're supposed to play Birthright first, but Conquest has always looked more interesting to me.
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Yes, much of the recent criticism of it is picky whining to an absurd degree. That's not to say it isn't flawed, it isn't perfect obviously, but most of the reasoning you'll get for why it's Worst Game Evar is total nonsense. Fates is very good. It's got some ridiculous stuff and bad ideas in it, but I put like 350+ hours into it and I'm glad I did.

You can start with Conquest, and in fact I recommend it. Conquest *is* Fates as far as I'm concerned, it's an entirely complete and satisfying experience unlike the other games. Birthright is insultingly easy unless you go way out of your way to give yourself a challenge,and Revelation (which isn't intended to be played first anyway) is a pacing quagmire with very uneven difficulty.

So I definitely recommend picking up Conquest, and if you enjoy it then branching out into the other titles is probably worth your time. Just be warned that what people say about the difficulty is true. Conquest is a very hard game. It's more of a fair difficulty than some of the stuff in Awakening, but it's ultimately a much tougher game.

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