Author Topic: TH14.3 Watch - ISC HP and Damage Data  (Read 2407 times)

Chill Observer

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TH14.3 Watch - ISC HP and Damage Data
« on: November 13, 2016, 11:26:36 PM »
I used an application called th143_watch to extract the following information from Impossible Spell Card:

  • Current and maximum HP
  • Current graze
  • Number of bullets on screen
  • Number of lasers on screen

Instructions on how to use th143_watch:

  • Launch the Japanese version of the game, then th143_watch. Important - it does not work for THCrap translated versions, for some reason.
  • Select any scene or replay. All data will be displayed as soon as the scene starts.
  • A note on HP: the enemy HP will only update once you deal at least a point of damage. Otherwise it just reads 4000; I am assuming that is the default value.

You can get th143_watch for yourself here.

Seija's shot DPS:

  • All tests were conducted on 1-5, Cirno's spell card. Though, any spell card scene works for testing in one-second intervals.
  • All 8 streams hitting (shotgun on top of enemy, doll needed): 195 DPS
  • 4 middle streams hitting (default if no doll): 115 DPS
  • 2 middle streams hitting: 75 DPS
  • 3 middle streams hitting: 95 DPS
  • 5 streams hitting (3 middle + 2 outer, doll needed): 135 DPS
  • 3 outer streams hitting (doll only): 60 DPS
  • 2 outer streams hitting (doll only): 40 DPS
  • 1 outer stream hitting (doll only): 20 DPS

In addition, the Miracle Mallet deals 514 damage per use at MAX level on spells, 3600 damage on non-spells. ISC follows the usual formula of non-spells having 7x more HP and damage than spells.

Conclusions:

  • The middle two streams deal 37.5 DPS each. All other streams deal 20 DPS. Therefore, you want to prioritize getting the two middle streams to hit.
  • There is no damage penalty in this game, even when shotgunning.
  • Doll sub does not impact your damage negatively at all. It simply adds 4 additional 20 damage streams, making it very strong for shotgunning.

Scene HP (brackets mean non-spell):

Day 1

  • [6000] 1800 1300 1500 1600 1200

Day 2

  • 1700 1300 1700 1600 1900 2000

Day 3

  • [18000] 1700 1700 1200 1700 2300 1000

Day 4

  • [17000] 800 2400 2000 2000 1700 1700

Day 5

  • [17000] 2000 2000 2400 2000 2000 2000 1200+1200

Day 6

  • [17000] 1400 1400 2500 2600 1800 1800 1200

Day 7

  • 2500 1700 2800 2300 2000 1700 2800 3000

Day 8

  • [17000] 3400 2800 2400 2400 3300 2800

Day 9

  • 2200 3200 2100 4000 2800 1900 2200 4600

Day 10

  • 3000 5000 3000 4100 4300 4500 3600 3350 1300 4800

Notes on individual scenes:

  • The ice crystals in scene 1-5 can be destroyed.
  • In scene 3-7, Mokou will always respawn with 1000 HP regardless of how many times she died.
  • Yoshika in scene 4-2 has an unknown amount of HP, but will block shots from hitting Seiga. Seiga herself only has 800 HP, however.
  • The drums in scene 5-4 can be destroyed, but will respawn after a set amount of time.
  • Both Benben and Yatsuhashi have 1200 HP each in scene 5-8.
  • In scene 9-4 and 9-8, killing a mini-Suika deals 40 damage to Suika herself.
  • In 10-8, the falling rocks will block shots from dealing damage to Tenshi.

HP regarding objects is unknown, unfortunately.

Thanks for your time, good luck with ISC shenanigans. :3
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Re: TH14.3 Watch - ISC HP and Damage Data
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2016, 01:32:09 AM »
Yes... VERY nice find!...

This would have come in handy for me about 1 year ago xD but I am sure other people can make use of this. Its good for the sake of knowing more about the game in-depth as well.

I wonder why nobody did it before...

Chill Observer

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Re: TH14.3 Watch - ISC HP and Damage Data
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2016, 02:24:45 AM »
Yes... VERY nice find!...

This would have come in handy for me about 1 year ago xD but I am sure other people can make use of this. Its good for the sake of knowing more about the game in-depth as well.

I wonder why nobody did it before...
The tool actually existed over 2 years ago. I found it in the ISC thread on MotK. It's the last post on that thread.

I just didn't see any data on the Chinese wiki regarding ISC info so I decided to do some data mining myself!
Retired Touhou player. Not involved with anything Touhou anymore.

Re: TH14.3 Watch - ISC HP and Damage Data
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2016, 02:38:33 PM »
Thanks a lot for this!!  :D