Author Topic: It's The Most Zerkerful Time Of The Year! Final Fantasy 5 Four Job Fiesta 2016!  (Read 42402 times)

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(this may or not be 80% lifted from last year's thread

Q: What is this?
A: A month-and-a-half long charity marathon benefiting Child's Play.  Play Final Fantasy V, on whatever platform you want (SNES, PS1, GBA, iOS, emulator), with the jobs given to you by the custom RNG bot and benevolent overlord, Gilgabot!

Q: When does it start?
The fiesta begins on on June 12th or the completion of ~*~the run~*~ (details on the main site)
Registration is LIVE GO GO GO
It runs through the end of August, so there's plenty of time and no rush (except for #BERSERKERRISK).  You can even register once the fiesta has begun, register for another run after you finish so no worries if you check this topic out later.

Q: What do I need to sign up?
A: A twitter account.  That's it.  You can totally make a throwaway twitter account for this; just make sure you will be able to remember the password.  It's used to tweet at Gilgabot for commands, such as signing up, revealing jobs, and reporting victories.  If you have a private account, you'll need to either unlock it when you send the command tweets or send a message to get added to Gilgabot's friend list (I can give instructions if needed)

Q: How does the four job thing work?
A: This depends on the ruleset you choose.
In Standard, once you get your first crystal and reveal your first job, your entire party will be locked into that job.  As you get the new jobs, you need to have one representative of each available job at all times (excluding when you have insufficient party members to do so, in those cases just make sure everyone has a different job).  You can swap jobs as often as you want within that limitation, and mix and match the abilities you learn freely.  This is what you will sign up for by default.
In Natural Only, each character is locked to Freelancer until you get their respective crystal - at which point the character is locked forever into whatever job you got for that crystal.  No mixing and matching jobs.  This is the tougher one by a significant margin! 
NEW THIS YEAR is Upgrade.  This is sort of a mix between the two modes.  Your entire party will start out all the same job just as a standard run.  However, once the next set of jobs is available you can choose when to ~upgrade~ your full team to your next assigned job. You can keep using any skills you learned previously and equip them on your new jobs, so have fun grinding  and hope Gilgabot has mercy on you for your endgame job  :V

Q: Which run choice do I pick?
A: There's several sets of runs that affect what classes you can obtain:
Regular is the original mode, you will receive one random Wind, Water, Fire, and Earth job at each crystal.  This is what I'd recommend for a first timer.
Random will open up additional jobs for each crystal - any job that you haven't obtained yet that is also up for grabs.  For instance, the Water crystal may also unlock a new Wind job instead, and the Earth could hand you any job in the game.  You're more likely to receive jobs from the first crystals as a result, and very unlikely to see an Earth crystal job.
Chaos Mode is similar to Random, except that any job is up for grabs for each crystal.  This means you have a pretty decent chance of not getting a job from the Wind crystal and needing to No Job Siesta a bit longer.  This mode also enables the possibility of rolling the same job for multiple crystals!
Team 750 and Team No 750 is a modifier this year that divides the classes in half in the general theme of Magic vs Physical (or close enough to allow an even divide) named after the cost of an elemental rod, as using/breaking one in battle to cast a powerful spell is a common tactic for mages.  The breakdowns are:
  • Team 750:  Wind - White Mage/Black Mage/Blue Mage       Water - Time Mage/Summoner/Red Mage     Fire -  Geomancer/Bard    Earth -  Chemist/Dancer
  • Team No 750: Wind - Thief/Monk/Knight     Water - Mystic Knight/Berserker     Fire - Ninja/Beastmaster/Ranger     Earth - Dragoon/Samurai
Classic will assign you one of the six original FF1 classes at each job, and can assign you multiples of the same job.  This is automatically under Natural Only rules, as above.  Could be potentially hellish (four white mages is a legit risk)

Q: Berserker Risk?
A: Based on the amount of donations received before preregistration ends vs the number of players who signed up for this, those players will be guaranteed to receive at least one Berserker and maybe more depending on job mode!  You can only sign up for Berserker Risk before the Fiesta begins so choose wisely.  They're quite a challenging class to work with due to really being entirely out of your control, but that doesn't mean they're bad.  Just brace yourself!

To clarify, adding #BERSERKKERRISK to a Regular run will lock you into getting a 'zerker for your Water crystal job and that's it (they will always hit the bare minimum of donations)  Adding it to a Random run opens up the possibility of your Fire and/or Earth crystal jobs getting overridden by THE RISK.  And Chaos Mode?  Hope you're ready for the chance of FOUR BERSERKERS  :o 
In my opinion/experience, having just one isn't much of a liability outside of a few battles and for some teams it'd be a great source of damage throughout the game.  If you really want a risk, make sure to sign up for Chaos or Random!

Q: I don't know Final Fantasy V that well...
A: What a great time to come play the best one!  Our buddy Garlyle is some sort of FF5 Wizard and wrote a handbook (click here for GBA version "translation")specifically oriented towards the FJF that covers more or less everything you'd ever want to know to make the most of the game's mechanics, the classes you've drawn, to help you figure out boss strategies, etc.  Also, MotK has several veterans of this challenge, and we'll always be available to offer a helping hand if you stumble or just run face first into a brick wall.
And yes, this is totally a great excuse to play FFV for the first time!

Q: Is there any way I can watch someone miss on Byblos 6 times in a row and laugh at her misfortune?
A: A few of us will be streaming our runs!  Come check us out, subscribe to keep on top of stream times and post if you got a link I missed!

Garlyle
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Yeah I've been spotty about streaming my fiestas in past years as it was and I could definitely see doing a huge binge of it on the train trip I have late June and pretty sure steaming on Amtrak wi-fi is a no. :V

But I am definitely fiesta-ing.

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Can't wait to get Beastmaster again (so I can bring four Breath Wings into the final boss fight and !Calm Omega to death)

I've babysat enough BERSERKERS to know what to do with them, but if I get Thief this time...

Validon98

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Third year or so in a row I'm gonna do this. Maybe THIS year I'll do Berserker Risk for the first time. Probably yes. Probably going to get like two Berserkers. Probably going to cry. :'D
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The Greatest Dog

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hey
If I babysat two berserkers with a red mage and a samurai

You can probably do anything with enough patience and time

Smashy

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I'll probably start with some form of non-Chaos BERSERKER RISK and then do a Chaos run. Didn't quite have the willpower to finish out a 2x Zerker/Dragoon/Beastmaster run last year

Garlyle

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I love how I'm automatically on the stream list

because yeah it's totally gonna happen hell ye

Reddyne

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Ohboy. My bike is excite.

Stupid edit: OHBOY! Site is up. There seems to be another extra rule you can apply for this year for anyone who doesn't pick Natural: Upgrade. Basically, once you hit the wind crystal, everyone swaps to the wind crystal job. Then, when you hit the water crystal, everyone swaps to the water crystal job. Repeat until everyone has hit the earth crystal job. Kinda interesting and there is a very real possibility that you could wind up with 4 dancers and while you pray to RNGsus for Sword Dance to proc. Synergy between jobs would help a ton. I'mma pass and just go chaos/berserker risk this time around.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2016, 03:09:56 PM by Reddyne »

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Yeah it seems kind of gimmicky and encourages grinding since you can keep learned skills after class change.  Gonna pass.  I'll update the OP in a bit.

I'm not sure if I'm gonna go for ~*~THE RISK~*~ or not, I never did and I sure have been doing this long enough to warrant a change up but on the other hand I do want a greater chance at some of the classes I have yet to play with.

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Yeah it seems kind of gimmicky and encourages grinding since you can keep learned skills after class change.  Gonna pass.  I'll update the OP in a bit.
Yeah maybe it's for some but it's a bit too grindy even for my taste.
I'm not sure if I'm gonna go for ~*~THE RISK~*~ or not, I never did and I sure have been doing this long enough to warrant a change up but on the other hand I do want a greater chance at some of the classes I have yet to play with.
This is why I'm sorta wavering on whether or not I will be signing up for BERSERKER RISK. I already did this once with a berserker and all in all it was good but there's still a bunch of classes I haven't touched upon yet. Maybe I know what I'm getting with a run-of-the-mill mage or standard sword and board guy, but the other classes that I haven't used before have made the run more interesting. Blue mage and dancer two years ago both drove me nuts and saved my behind on numerous occasions. Last year, beastmaster was a delightful surprise and chemist was as good as it was touted to be. So ~WHO KNOWS~ although I'll be signing up within the next 6 hours. Time to decide.

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Validon98

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Alright, this year is just going to be a Normal run with an extra helping of RISK. Time to learn how to use berserkers. :'D
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triangles

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Just remember that if you REALLY want ~*~the risk~*~ you gotta sign up for Random or Chaos mode because just one zerker isn't a problem.  I just updated the OP with that and all the new stuff for this year (I think I got it all?) since I know that's a question that comes up every year.

Validon98

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Well crap, I already registered for a normal run. Here's hoping retweeting a Random run changes it. :'D
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triangles

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Yeah you can override your mode choices up and add modifiers up until the start of the Fiesta without a problem.  When in doubt just check the Players page and see if it's updated.

Reddyne

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I've noticed that a lot of the folks doing an upgrade run have signed on for BERSERKER RISK. It's kind of a clever way to approach it. Berserkers only have 2 skills to learn and they could theoretically be used to boost the party's physical attack power later in the game. To compliment this, the gap between the water crystal and fire crystal is comparatively small. Once you're done, you don't have to worry about a zerker being a burden anymore. Problem: Have fun with Liquid Flame, chumperonis!

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Yeah I'm also gonna pass on #upgrade. It's a nice idea! But I like being able to mix my stuff around a little more, it's most of the fun!

I do think Upgrade at least sounds a ton more fun than Natural, and also that Risk combo is hella clever. Until you also get a Berserker in your Earth slot because BERSERKER RISK is no fun without random/chaos. =P

(Also I'd like to praise the decoupling of 750/no-750 from normal/random/chaos this year.)

Third Eye Lem

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* Third Eye Lem jumps aboard the noUpgrade train

I loved my Chaos run last time, so I'mma do it again! Here's a history of my runs so far:

2013: (Normal) Monk, Red Mage, Ranger, Samurai. Successful.
2014: (Random, RISK) Blue Mage, ZERKER, ZERKER, ????. Quit.
2015: (CHAOS) Blue Mage, Blue Mage, Time Mage, Chemist. SUCCESSFUL DRAGONFORCE.

The ⑨th Zentillion

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So it's that time of the year again! Great! :3

Decided to go with normal but with RISK this time. Kind of boring, but I've been pretty successful at never getting a 'zerker the entire time I've been doing this, so bring it on!

...Iiiiii'll probably try out Upgrade if I complete this first run, though. A grindfest, sure, but it will be interesting to at least try this year.

Guess I'm all about changes this year, eh? BV
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Reddyne

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Well I think I'll chicken out from BERSERKER RISK this year but it's a very high possibility for next year if this year is as rockin' as last year.
I do think Upgrade at least sounds a ton more fun than Natural, and also that Risk combo is hella clever. Until you also get a Berserker in your Earth slot because BERSERKER RISK is no fun without random/chaos. =P
Ho yeah godspeed mooncat. Better hope those passives come through big time. It'd make thief useful for dps, at least.

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Sophilia

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Last year, I did two runs. The first was Random Natural (Black Mage/Knight/MKnight/Geomancer) that won and beat Shinryu, and a Chaos (Berserker/Beastmaster/Beastmaster/Geomancer) that would have Triple Crowned but NED was just being a massive troll and I lost my motivation.

Neither of those runs were Berserker Risk, but I may take the risk this year.  It certainly won't be Chaos Risk though, since I'm one of those old fashioned sorts actually playing on a GBA cartridge.  Grinding all Berserkers is a chore in the best of circumstances, but without speed up functions of an emulator or the mobile/Steam improvements to zerks?  No thank you.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 03:56:25 AM by Sophilia »
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Validon98

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Garlyle

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Actually, I was doing some thinking at work, and I think Upgrade could be interesting.  It probably won't be too hard, but it could be still kind of nasty in some ways (Ending on four bards would be somewhat challenging just due to low offensive stats, and you'd be entirely reliant on anything you got prior to enable any sort of offense).

I'm actually going to run Chaos/Upgrade.  I think RK's confirmed that you don't actually have to upgrade until you're ready (otherwise it gets really strange in tandem with Chaos), so that'll be a thing.

Also hell yeah that donation

EDIT: There's a hidden registration command.  Do not attempt to figure it out.  You will have only everhate yourself to blame for what you get
« Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 05:06:36 AM by Garlyle »

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oh lordy
Ahaha I was wondering just why the donation total had jumped by $4k overnight.

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I think RK's confirmed that you don't actually have to upgrade until you're ready (otherwise it gets really strange in tandem with Chaos), so that'll be a thing.
That makes it much better.  I was wondering what would happen if you got multiple Earth Crystal jobs, and it'd keep the entirety of World 2 and 3 from being just one class if you choose.  It also puts the gamble in your hands if you are hitting a brick wall boss, or if you wind up with Red Mage/Ranger you can wait until Bal Castle grinding is done to change away  :V :V :V

Third Eye Lem

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* Third Eye Lem clicks on "the run," sees top jobs

A bit early to call it, but if these jobs go through, they can probably kill Shinryu and Omega too.

Reiterpallasch on SomethingAwful apparently made this year a nice little tool that condenses a lot of useful hints and tips down to what's potentially available to your job makeup. (Including things to not worry about doing if you don't have the applicable jobs.)


Please don't use the mobile/Steam version of FFV but if you do hate yourself that much it's on sale right now.

(But seriously its only redeeming qualities are the enemy sprites, and having the Amano portraits at a nice resolution. Everything else looks like a shitty RPG Maker game and they "fixed" a lot of things in ways that render a lot of bosses basically impossible for some Fiesta teams that could handle them on previous versions.)

EDIT: My bad why did I think it has fast-forward built in, it totally doesn't. It does have an auto-battle option though.

Also! Regardless of your platform of choice, consider prepping a save up through getting the Wind Crystal jobs to save time when the Fiesta starts (and save it in a separate slot if you think you might do multiple runs).
« Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 10:25:18 PM by Sakurashi Nana »

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Whoa geez didn't realize it was that time again

went #regChaos again, got some good stuff last year (two red mages may have been a bit much), let's see if I end up water tribe again

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