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Tengukami · « **Reply #240 on:** March 04, 2016, 10:35:42 AM »

The vampire thing is always going to be tricky. Vampire mythology is so broad and contradictory that we can't even infer things about Remilia and Flandre's vampire Do's and Don't's that are not specifically spelled out by ZUN, such as the feeding example.

Fulisha of Light · « **Reply #241 on:** March 05, 2016, 08:34:42 AM »

Quote from: Drake on March 04, 2016, 08:11:02 AM

I don't really think it's clear what happened at the end of PCB. It also isn't mentioned afterwards, but it's hard to imagine Yuyuko not knowing if that occurrence is explained to her later. It's also written right in PMiSS that her body is there sealing it, and since it exists as an in-universe document, she probably knows. I guess.

According to PMiSS, a human bitten by a vampire will turn into a zombie and evaporate under sunlight. However, we can't really verify that claim as it's the only time it's mentioned.

From which game? MoF up to DDC have the pixel font, which I assume is what you mean. Honestly since it's a pixel font you could probably just draw it out, and I suspect ZUN actually made it himself by taking another font, scaling it down then cleaning it up a bit. What do you need it for?

Yes, the ones from MoF to DDC. Need it for game-related stuff.
I could just take any font and scale it down, but it's really difficult to get them to match up exactly, and get other letters such as C to look like they go with the font.

Helepolis · « **Reply #242 on:** March 05, 2016, 10:09:39 AM »

I had some exposure yesterday of PC98 and Windows series and was wondering suddenly a lot about Marisa and Reimu and their relationship. Sure, they have battled and rivalled. I mean, Marisa was completely unknown and loyal to Mima in SoeW. Her character is also completely different based on her dialogue. More wicked but just as confident.

So how deep does Reimu and Marisa's relationship go? Which official work gives an understanding in this?

In FS and WaHH we can clearly see that both Reimu and Marisa are keen to keep the peace and balance as main characters (as seen in the games too). There is some sort of romance between those two (not in a love way). But I compare it a bit to Oda's phrase when he mentioned the romance in the Mugiwara crew. Romance for adventure and pursuing their dreams.

Feel free to advise me work to read. I read a few but they all feel so vague, probably because I didn't pay enough attention or wasn't really aware in general. So I wouldn't mind rereading it more carefully a second or third time.

Also, why is Marisa breaking the 4th wall along with Reimu in trial of SoEW!? !? !? (Because they obviously can)

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Also to ask about the former the former discussion with the exclamation mark and such. For example this line from SoeW when Reimu & Genji encounters Marisa:
Genji JP > 御主人様、冷静に、　敵はかなり手強いですぞ。
Genji EN > M'lady, control yourself! She is a formidable opponent.

Can I guess that the exclamation mark here is questionable as Genji addresses Reimu as "Master" with heavy formality. I doubt he would shout at her as some sort of teacher. Then again it could be alerting due to being protective.

the old guy · « **Reply #243 on:** March 05, 2016, 10:26:59 AM »

Its never directly stated, but i'm pretty sure (actually im not sure at all but i hope im sure!) that FS shows them as pretty close friends. They are not in love, not matter how much shippers wish they were.
~~Yukari and Yuyu are totally lovers thou.~~

Clarste · « **Reply #244 on:** March 05, 2016, 11:00:09 AM »

I haven't read them in a long time, but I feel like CoLA might be the only work that's dug into their relationship at all (although not all that much). Basically they're childhood friends.

the old guy · « **Reply #245 on:** March 05, 2016, 01:10:57 PM »

i'd say they are friendly rivals.

Chirumiru-chan · « **Reply #246 on:** March 05, 2016, 08:36:22 PM »

What's on the paper manuals of the PC-98 games?

Helepolis · « **Reply #247 on:** March 05, 2016, 08:40:52 PM »

Being friendly rivals can be confirmed through out the games. If we have to go by the dialogues so far, their bitching is happening quite often in the games. Well I call it bitching, but it is just like old guy said. Except in FS / WaHH this seems bit more toned down.

Guess I'll dive into CoLA again the upcoming days.

Drake · « **Reply #248 on:** March 06, 2016, 01:13:11 AM »

Quote from: Fulisha of Light on March 05, 2016, 08:34:42 AM

Yes, the ones from MoF to DDC. Need it for game-related stuff.
I could just take any font and scale it down, but it's really difficult to get them to match up exactly, and get other letters such as C to look like they go with the font.

I understand that, but if I'm right and he cleaned it up to pixels himself, the best you're ever going to do is approximate or rip anyways. Note that you should be able to take characters from the existing names. Uppercase C is available from "Continue" (although it's resized) and lowercase from "Ichirin", for example.

Shadowlupus · « **Reply #249 on:** March 06, 2016, 05:42:44 AM »

Any idea what this is about? It's kinda looks interesting.

http://news.9129suppon.com/archives/1053123955.html

Leon゠Helsing · « **Reply #250 on:** March 13, 2016, 06:38:47 AM »

So this is less of a question and more of a feedback request, but I tried making a personal translation of the tracklist of Koumajou Densetsu 2's OST. Now bear in mind that I practically do not speak a lick of Japanese, so what I did was pretty much put the track titles in jisho.org and try making sense of the word-by-word translation, so some of the results may make you want to shove Gungnir up my ass. Anyway, the original tracklist can be found here and my translation attempts are as follows (denoted by disc and track number, repeat titles won't be mentioned):
1-6. Castle Lord of Heartwarming Crimson/The Beautiful Scarlet Lord of the Castle (conflicting known prior translations, went with the former for now.)
1-9. Cherry Blossom Flash (mostly confident on this one.)
1-10. The Stolen Great Library (somewhat confident on this one since I'm familiar with Castlevania Order of Ecclesia's Japanese subtitle, Ubawareta Kokuin = The Stolen Seal.)
1-11. Shooting Star of Magical Bullets (kinda iffy on this one.)
1-13. Shrine Maiden of Heaven and Earth/Divine Shrine Maiden (direct translation/localization, reference to Castlevania's Bloodlines AKA Richter Belmont's theme.)
1-15. Perverse Madness (this one's kind of a toss-up.)
1-16. Binding of the Heart (kinda unsure on this one.)
1-17. Corpse Channeling (really unsure on this one, even with jisho.org I can only barely make sense of this one. :V)
1-18. Silence (known prior translation.)
1-19. Stained Mist Amnesia (somewhat confident on this one.)
1-20. Rose-Killing Carmilla (known translation, mostly confident on this one.)
2-06. Purple Reason (ahaha FML, jisho.org barely gave me anything to work with. :V)
So yeah, please correct me if there's anything particularly wrong.

SlimeKid · « **Reply #251 on:** March 16, 2016, 03:48:36 PM »

Not exactly sure if this has been answered before or not, but I read up and noticed that Remilia has the power to manipulate fate. Are there any instances in which she uses this power?

CyberAngel · « **Reply #252 on:** March 16, 2016, 05:09:59 PM »

No definite cases are known, only speculations. What's more, even how her ability works is nothing but speculations.

Clarste · « **Reply #253 on:** March 16, 2016, 09:38:45 PM »

Remember: powers are self-declared (confirmed by Akyu in Futo's article). In other words, the powers people have listed on their profiles are just whatever they thought would sound coolest, and may not have any correlation with reality. In that sense, it tells us more about their personality than their abilities, although of course some people are just honest and straightforward.

As for Remilia's fate manipulation, the closest thing we have to an example is Akyu's speculation that she changed Sakuya's fate from "vampire hunter" to "maid" by giving her a new name. Again, that's pure speculation, but I think it might give an idea of the kind of thing that someone in Gensokyo (Akyu) would think of as fate manipulation.

Bic?- · « **Reply #254 on:** March 16, 2016, 10:27:29 PM »

A question for the veteran Danmakufu scripters: when there were no tutorials around, how have you learned how to create scripts?

Spoiler:

Drake · « **Reply #255 on:** March 17, 2016, 03:41:28 AM »

Even when 0.12m had no-to-few tutorials the official documentation still existed.

That being said, tasks and microthreads were not very well-understood by our community as most users were young and not very experienced with those concepts. Most early scripts centered around setting up almost everything in MainLoop and using timer variables and flags for everything. This is what some older members refer to when people say "mainloop-style scripting", which honestly shouldn't even exist.

TresserT · « **Reply #256 on:** March 17, 2016, 04:29:44 AM »

I'm not a veteran, but I've never looked at a tutorial personally. I learned by copy-pasting other people's scripts and changing things here and there until I figured out what the functions did. And asking people lots of questions.

Helepolis · « **Reply #257 on:** March 17, 2016, 12:04:47 PM »

- Lots of asking questions
- Lots of looking at other people's work > copypaste > change things to see/learn results
- Lots of self discovery

I remember when I dared my own custom spell card attack! effects and had to learn some mysterious things which was rarely used back then.

Quote from: Drake on March 17, 2016, 03:41:28 AM

That being said, tasks and microthreads were not very well-understood by our community as most users were young and not very experienced with those concepts. Most early scripts centered around setting up almost everything in MainLoop and using timer variables and flags for everything. This is what some older members refer to when people say "mainloop-style scripting", which honestly shouldn't even exist.

Ye pretty much, even I started with the @MainLoop. But for a very shot while as I quickly encountered an old 0.12 tutorial which was showing the tasking and microthreading method. Right here: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Danmakufu/Samples then ran into this tutorial / explanation: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Danmakufu/Syntax/Microthreads

I just blindly copied the examples until I realised the @MainLoop was never used at all except for few things (collision usually). I quickly adapted once I discovered how flexible it was in comparison to the mainloop. I personally never understood the tenacity of people who kept mainloop style scripting while microthreading isn't a huge step at all.

All my tutorials approach the microthreading method. Because it is most powerful and flexible.

Hannibal_Kills · « **Reply #258 on:** March 17, 2016, 03:48:41 PM »

Would anyone have a time to count how many official Touhou soundtracks have been composed?

Helepolis · « **Reply #259 on:** March 17, 2016, 08:04:39 PM »

Quote from: Hannibal_Kills on March 17, 2016, 03:48:41 PM

Would anyone have a time to count how many official Touhou soundtracks have been composed?

Wouldn't you be able to elicit that information from the yearly popularity poll?

Hannibal_Kills · « **Reply #260 on:** March 17, 2016, 11:34:41 PM »

Quote from: Helepolis on March 17, 2016, 08:04:39 PM

Wouldn't you be able to elicit that information from the yearly popularity poll?

Didn't know that, I'll go check it out then.

Colticide · « **Reply #261 on:** March 18, 2016, 01:02:40 AM »

Hello! It's been a while since I was last here but I'm here now with questions of sorts. My questions revolve around Yuyuko, her body, and the Saigyou Ayakashi, and possible things that could happen that could be used at material for a project. (So sorry if they are stupid questions)

What is Yuyuko's relasonship with Eiki Shiki? Yuyuko manages the Netherworld but its also the place where judged souls go depending on their sentence. Would this make Eiki Shiki her boss in a way?

I've read that Yuyuko's body is buried under the Saigyou Ayakashi, however in the game it's her soul that's used as a seal and not her body, is this a translation issue or is her body still buried and her soul is also used as a seal? Also what happened to them both after the events of PCB?

What happened to the Saigyou Ayakashi after PCB? Was it's killed or is it still sealed away?

Here's the weird questions... is there a type of youkai that is born from dead bodies? Like it inhabits it or the body become a new youkai with it's own thoughts or memories separate from the original body. Also is it possible for the spirit of the Saigyou Ayakashi to be reincarnated into a youkai or a person? Would their abilites kind of stay the same or do you think they would differ from their original bodies/form?

Extra: Also the theme for PCB stage 3, "ブクレシュティの人形師" is translated as "The Doll Maker of Bucuresti" but just been wondering why 人形師 is doll maker when 師 means Master or expert? Wouldn't it be more like The Doll Master of Bucuresti?

Drake · « **Reply #262 on:** March 18, 2016, 10:08:13 AM »

"What is Yuyuko's relasonship with Eiki Shiki? Yuyuko manages the Netherworld but its also the place where judged souls go depending on their sentence. Would this make Eiki Shiki her boss in a way?"
Explicitly so. The Yama is the one that appointed Yuyuko to manage the phantoms in the Netherworld.

"however in the game it's her soul that's used as a seal and not her body"
Can you recall where you're talking about?

The Saigyou Ayakashi still exists, and wasn't even fully unsealed, as Yuyuko can't actually unseal it herself. The closer she'd get to resurrecting herself, the more her existence as a ghost would disappear. Her final phase in PCB seems to be her beginning to disappear by trying to resurrect herself.

"Also the theme for PCB stage 3, "ブクレシュティの人形師" is translated as "The Doll Maker of Bucuresti" but just been wondering why 人形師 is doll maker when 師 means Master or expert? Wouldn't it be more like The Doll Master of Bucuresti?"
師 here would mean more like "specialist". You might also say "puppeteer", but the distinction here is hardly relevant as she does both anyway.

Chirumiru-chan · « **Reply #263 on:** March 18, 2016, 08:18:47 PM »

Does anyone else cry when they hear Legend of Hourai, Mystic Dream, Soul's Resting Place, The Purest Sky and Sea, Mound of Life, and Mystic Maple? I know I do. They're just so melancholic.

Hannibal_Kills · « **Reply #264 on:** March 18, 2016, 11:07:52 PM »

Quote from: Chirumiru-chan on March 18, 2016, 08:18:47 PM

Does anyone else cry when they hear Legend of Hourai, Mystic Dream, Soul's Resting Place, The Purest Sky and Sea, Mound of Life, and Mystic Maple? I know I do. They're just so melancholic.

Yeah, I think it's only you being too over-expressive, not being rude but that's that. But I got to say Dolls in Pseudo Paradise and Embodiment of Scarlet Devil feels nostalgic
while Let's Live in a Lovely Cemetery is calm for a stage theme.

Chirumiru-chan · « **Reply #265 on:** March 19, 2016, 12:56:59 AM »

Quote from: Hannibal_Kills on March 18, 2016, 11:07:52 PM

Yeah, I think it's only you being too over-expressive, not being rude but that's that. But I got to say Dolls in Pseudo Paradise and Embodiment of Scarlet Devil feels nostalgic
while Let's Live in a Lovely Cemetery is calm for a stage theme.

It's actually mainly Legend of Hourai now, along with Soul's Resting Place. I think Soul's Resting Place makes me cry because it's the last PC-98 song and Mima will disappear...and that being said I think Legend of Hourai makes me cry because it's one of the first themes in the Windows canon (though a music CD) and Mima won't come back...yeah...

Colticide · « **Reply #266 on:** March 19, 2016, 08:22:44 PM »

Quote from: Drake on March 18, 2016, 10:08:13 AM

Can you recall where you're talking about?

The Saigyou Ayakashi still exists, and wasn't even fully unsealed, as Yuyuko can't actually unseal it herself. The closer she'd get to resurrecting herself, the more her existence as a ghost would disappear. Her final phase in PCB seems to be her beginning to disappear by trying to resurrect herself.

Sorry was reading on the Wiki to refresh my memory, that and the dialogue in the game is a bit cryptic for me to fully understand what is exactly happening.

To put things simply I'm working on a game with a friend and two characters we have need some form of backstory with their designs we have, I'm sure I can come up with something sooner or later but it seemed to just fit the designs is one was a youkai of Yuyukos body and one was a reincarnated Saigyou Ayakashi. I guess it sound kinda dumb but wanted to know what freedoms one would have with fanworks in relation to the actual lore of the games.

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師 here would mean more like "specialist". You might also say "puppeteer", but the distinction here is hardly relevant as she does both anyway.

Ok wasn't sure why is was that way, I'm guessing its more of a combination of the two that makes it doll maker. So would it be master if 師 was by itself and not with 人形? (Self learning this stuff get hard lol.)

Drake · « **Reply #267 on:** March 20, 2016, 03:05:20 AM »

It's just that words can have different connotations depending on how it's used, whether it's japanese or other languages. It'd probably be more of "mentor" by itself? But I'm not too confident in saying so.

The Saigyou Ayakashi is legitimately just a tree, and it killing people that sit under it is akin to Yuyuko's power of invoking death (well, really it's Yuyuko's ability that was thought up from the tree's legend). Its legend is related to people lying under the tree in bloom to die, so here it's written that the tree's power is reflected by it being in bloom, and sealing the tree stops it from blooming. "Reviving" the tree is really just getting it to bloom.

Hannibal_Kills · « **Reply #268 on:** March 20, 2016, 05:39:39 AM »

One question:
Can Yukari go back to the past using her Inter-Dimensional travel power? If no, is there anyone in Gensokyo can?

Moogs Parfait · « **Reply #269 on:** March 20, 2016, 08:56:27 PM »

Can someone explain the Lunarian concept of purity to me? It seems about as vague as our modern "Terrorist"