Also see my name mentioned quite a bit,and to clarify my argument about lynching murrin and shalako was twofold; firstly, I indeed do scumread them both. I see a lack of elaboration on both shalako and murrin even while making alot of posts, and never quite elaborated on any of them. this isnt just a problem with their skill, but more of how Murrin spent the majority of the day parking his vote on me with a very weak 'he's attacking effort shalako' claim, then just hopped around on some other wagons without really substantiating on any of them (defos RMB murrin turning 180 on SB) after my initial wall response to Zak (the one before I flipped out) and people expressing I look towny, so there's really no explainable reasons for the murrin turnabout other than to avoid flak and attention which is a scum motivation. Shlako basically has the same problem, except my impression is that he went for refuge in audacity instead, highlighting again and again a simple one liner that wasn't even relevant. These scum motives are universal regardless of newbness, and shouldnt be handwaved by "effort"
At such, their arguments are borderline useless, which constitutes my second point, that even if they were town, they might as well be a negative contribution and lynching them is better for the gameplan. Yet both of them were frustrating me so much so that as such, instead of making a case that focused on the first point and making a useful case, my sentiment got ahold of me and I instead ranted mostly about my second point and assumed that I talked enough about my first one (probably never did). So people are only partially correct about my case. I was bitching about how lynching them is good, yes, but I also have an actual scumread on them, probably still do, in fact, but now I am more cautious about my conclusions on these two right now cause I may be biased.