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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2015, 05:32:29 PM »
Finished E-5 Normal in 8 sorties. It would have been 7 if my "Asashio-class aviation destroyer" Ryujo hadn't been randomly one-shotted by a Ru Flagship. Dialing down the difficulty, as well as saving all my best ships for E-5, made things easy.

Speaking of easy, I'm going to do E-6 on easy mode. This is a coward's move, but I choose to see it as a way to save resources before hunting the elusive rabbit in E-3.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2015, 02:01:29 AM »
Welp, a series of unlucky sorties in a row, including a few trips being stopped short by the pre-boss node (read: massive waste of bauxite for no boss damage), lack of T-crosses in my favor and one particularly infuriating instance where Fusou dropped to orange before her turn to shell the boss, followed by Verniy dropping to orange and the remaining better half of my escort fleet dropping to red before night battle >_> This map is just refusing to go down; once the last kill version of the boss node starts showing up I might have to go out on a limb and run support expeditions. The very reason I haven't been doing that before now is because everyone else not already on the combined fleet kind of sucks, so I'm not expecting much >_>

Also, holy crap. Kitakami just hit 49. Looks like she might 2nd remodel in time to finish off E-6 :V Kaga is lv22 now, so if I'm unlucky enough she might get to remodel, too. Saves me the trouble of grinding \o/
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2015, 03:22:53 AM »
Stream over and E-6 complete

Gonna try and finish E-6 now: www.hitbox.tv/highzealot

Well that went better than I thought it would. Barely streamed for more than an hour. Overall, I believe I had a mere 13 sorties to kill the boss.



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Here's the fleet I used in general terms that anyone should be able to copy if needed. Night battle route and surface fleet.
Main Fleet:
  • Tone Kai Ni: 2 reds, best seaplane available, fleet command facility
  • Musashi Kai: 2 reds, AP shell, seaplane
  • Kirishima Kai Ni: 2 reds, AP shell, seaplane
  • Yamato Kai: 2 reds, AP shell, seaplane
  • Ryuujou Kai Ni: See below
  • Jun'you Kai Ni: See below
For my CVL, I had enough fighters for air superiority at the pre-boss node and a saiun on the smallest slot available. I had 2 more slots left. Larger slot got my best torpedo bomber and the other my best dive bomber
For my BB guns, I gave them the best for accuracy like the 38cm kai. Guns fitting their weight like 35.6cm twin gun on Kirishima might also work

Escort Fleet
  • Sendai Kai Ni: 2 best yellow guns if Kitakami has best red, searchlight
  • Bismarck Drei: 2 46cm guns, AP shell, night seaplane
  • Choukai Kai Ni, second best red guns, radar, seaplane
  • Kitakami Kai Ni: Either 2 best red guns or 2 best torpedos, midget sub
  • Ayanami Kai Ni: 2 torpedos, star shell
  • Yukikaze Kai: 2 best torpedos if Kitakami has red, else second best, star shell
This fleet setup was derived from someone's fleet from /jp/ who also repeated high success rate so hopefully it can help a third person succeed.

So my thoughts on E-6 is that it's not that bad relative the to the past. Pre-boss node attempts to cockblock you but this is pretty much the only threatening node. Night battle is pretty much harmless and the node preceding is easy though sometimes I've had enough misses that the last torpedo phase did manage to hurt. The boss node itself is tough but it's very possible to sink every enemy except the boss before the night and then finish her off. Final form had potential to be a pain but it's still no double battleship hime. When I compared this to last event, I believe I never S-ranked the boss last time. This time, S-ranked her multiple times including the final kill which also happened to be the first attempt on the final kill.

Thoughts on the event in general, probably one of the easiest events to date in terms of clearing the maps. Only the Arpeggio event I would consider to be easier. However, having Roma be a random drop is a dick move from the devs. A trophy destroyer or even light cruiser but a battleship? An italian one at that? Evil devs are evil.

I'll try farming for Roma but I won't be streaming it. I'll also be doing report videos with post commentary which will hopefully go up within the next 2 or 3 weeks.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2015, 04:57:15 AM by highzealot »

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2015, 04:46:30 AM »
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For the first time in my admiralty career, I've completed an event. Feels good.

Escort fleet was as you see in the image above. Main fleet below. Only had one AP ammo, so that went on Haruna. Ooi getting hit to orange and KTKM not cutting in didn't matter because everyone else wailed on the boss and sank her. Sinking the CV hime as well was icing on the cake.

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After getting critted so many times by the CV hime in both boss node and pre-boss node, I decided to exhaust her planes with both Akizuki and Shigure set up for AA cut-in/double attack. Things went a lot better after that.

E-1: Medium
E-2: Medium
E-3: Hard
E-4: Medium
E-5: Medium
E-6: Hard

Started with 150 buckets and 25K resources (except bauxite, 28K). Dropped to about 20K F/A/S on finishing E-5. E-6 was the resources killer, devouring 3x the resources of the others combined. Of course, part of it was due to burning resources on maintaining Yamato.

With a few resources left, I can probably make an attempt or two for Roma, but I doubt I can find her.


« Last Edit: May 08, 2015, 04:54:44 AM by qMyon »

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2015, 07:51:10 AM »
I'm probably just going to go gunning for Katsu at E-2. Having the event happen right smack in the middle of your examinations is not exactly the nicest thing. x_x

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2015, 11:48:08 AM »
I'd love to be able to play Kancolle but I can't seem to make it to any of the lotteries in time. Maybe I just have shit luck. This game does look really interesting though.

Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2015, 12:39:46 PM »


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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2015, 12:49:06 PM »
I said I was going to do E-6 on easy mode, but my pride wouldn't let me. I tried copying Zealot's fleet, but of course there were some major differences:

1) I don't have Yamato or Musashi. I had to substitute Nagato and Mutsu - who are at Level 48.
2) I don't have Bismarck. I used Chikuma instead.
3) I don't have any CLTs. I used Fubuki - my highest-level destroyer at 94 - with anti-air equipment.
4) I don't have Ayanami or Yukikaze. I had to use Shigure as the luck-based torpedo destroyer, and Yudachi with Skilled Lookouts as the other.
5) My Junyo isn't K2 - so all her slots had to hold fighters in order to obtain air superiority over the Carrier Princess.

So obviously my fleet is nowhere as strong as the Grand Admiral's, but I hoped I could increase my chances by playing on normal mode and not hard, and by bringing a boss support expedition.

In about 10 sorties, I've gotten the boss down to 1/4 life, with three clean S victories and a bunch of A victories that took some pixels off of the boss lifebar. The resource drain is immense, but my stockpile looks like it can handle the drain.

Also, I ran three rabbit hunt sorties on E-3.



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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2015, 12:53:09 PM »
oh i have a question

why can't I go in E-2? Game's preventing me from going in the map.

Am I doing something wrong with composition or is it something else? My free slots for ships are more than 5.


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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2015, 01:31:09 PM »
oh i have a question

why can't I go in E-2? Game's preventing me from going in the map.

Am I doing something wrong with composition or is it something else? My free slots for ships are more than 5.

Have you combined your first two fleets into a carrier or surface task force?

Are any of the ships in your first two fleets under repair?

Do you have 20 or more free equipment slots?

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2015, 01:46:34 PM »
Welp. Ayanami got critted on the Night Battle node during my first try of E-6, so... that wasn't nice. ;>;

I'll try again after work. Hopefully my set-up will be good enough.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2015, 02:13:11 PM »
I'd love to be able to play Kancolle but I can't seem to make it to any of the lotteries in time. Maybe I just have shit luck. This game does look really interesting though.
There's actually a forum that can help you out with getting into the lottery: http://www.himeuta.net/

Also...preparations on buckets and supplies complete just gotta get Kumano completely up to 35 and then figure out how to get pass the NB node due to I lack the Kai subs to cheese it out with.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2015, 05:59:02 PM »
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I dropped down to easy because I don't have enough useful ships by the end of E4, and even then E5 took 4 tries just to be able to kill the boss for the clear.

Fleet for first rounds was Kaga, Haguro, Kongou, Kirishima, Nagato, I-168 with Repair Team. Haguro was doing not enough damage to clear the fodder and was just in general not contributing as much as I want, so I switched my team. Last kill team was Kirishima, Akagi, Kaga, Kongou, Nagato, I-168 with Repair Team. Akagi was deliberately fitted with red planes to not attack the boss. She's responsible for clearing out the supporting units and she did her job perfectly.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2015, 08:25:04 PM »
Quick update: Out of buckets, Kitakami hit 50 and remodeled, now she can equip a midget sub as well as 2 torpedoes for night battle cut-in \o/ Zero boss damage since last post, game is hard. The pre-boss node is making a hobby out of critting either Kaga or Katsuragi down to red and making me turn back :I Considering giving them damecon instead of armor for subsequent runs.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2015, 12:01:15 AM »


mfw when it only takes a handful of runs

E-7 DONE idgaf about the new dd. I wish Roma art was better but my pride demands I have every glasses kanmusu.
Might do some runs for Amatsukaze, otherwise I can waste the rest of my resources on biscuit attempts
To the rest still on E-7, good luck to you~

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2015, 01:09:45 AM »

WG42s have been... marginally useful i guess, they sort of suck at night battle but day battle were sort of worth it...maybe? i guess if it's saved me a night battle then that's ammo saved
only had to go night battle on the final kill because i was suddenly getting hit and not landing any of the return fire

i "started" the event with 25k resources approx and haven't gone down since
E-1 proved to the the most annoying so far

now, E-5 is going to be a bit silly because i have none of the ship pairs. i've got a lot of one component but not the other; default ship limit makes this noticeably difficult because i disbanded my mogami-kan unit half a year ago orz
might just throw boss support all day if i can't think of something
naturally i'll be throwing sub-damecon at this because i have like a dozen
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2015, 02:08:49 AM »
E-6 NORMAL CLEARED!



Nice S victory on the 11th sortie cleared the way to the final form. Got the final kill on the 14th sortie with a Skilled Lookouts-triggered torpedo cut-in from eventual MVP Yudachi. You could say I... "lucked out".

Honorable mention to Fubuki, whose anti-air cut-ins on both the boss and pre-boss nodes kept the Carrier Princess from running wild. Ryujo and Junyo didn't do anything as flashy, but air superiority is the power behind every modern naval victory.

This is my second event, but it's my first time completing every stage of an event. This was supposedly one of the easiest events ever, but still. I never had to dial down to easy mode, and I was able to allocate both my resources and personnel wisely enough to survive fleet locking. Panic-leveling a second and third string before the event to undo the damage of FAVORITISM, and panic-leveling Chokai from 10 to 65 in 5 days in the middle of the event, somehow paid off.

Now E7 begins. For Calamity, E7 was hunting down that last girl with glasses. For me, well, it's rabbit or bust.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2015, 02:12:15 AM »

4th fleet slot and KONGOU DESSSS GET o/

And I'm pretty sure that kill put the boss low enough for last kill too. Time to set up support expeditions and pull out the big guns.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2015, 02:35:32 AM »
Just to be clear, "E-7" is the name given to objectives that remain after clearing the event. The event stages (for this event) only go up to E-6, but if you want to find Roma, Amatsukaze, Uzuki, Takanami, or some other rare drop badly enough, that hunt becomes E-7.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2015, 02:43:30 AM »


 This is my fleet as of right now. I just got Kirishima to K2. Can someone give me some thoughts as to the feasibility of an E6 normal run or should I stick to easy? E5 Easy was a massive increase in difficulty for me.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2015, 02:51:14 AM »
Just to be clear, "E-7" is the name given to objectives that remain after clearing the event. The event stages (for this event) only go up to E-6, but if you want to find Roma, Amatsukaze, Uzuki, Takanami, or some other rare drop badly enough, that hunt becomes E-7.
...Oh. Derp. I see :V I already have an Amatsukaze of unknown origins and Takanami from a map drop, and my resources are dangerously low, so I guess I'll pass on the other two. Gotta build that Taihou yo.

Also dang Rune that table's pretty nice, what made it?
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2015, 02:54:37 AM »
That was generated by Kancolle Viewer

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2015, 03:52:25 AM »
The table is part of Kancolle Viewer, its a handy modification of internet explorer that lets you sign into Kancolle via cookie method, translates quest descriptions, and gives you notifications like when expeditions have returned. Very useful, I use it too.

Rune I would say you are ready for E-6 normal, just bump up Ooi to Kai Ni first. The final kill may be painful without another Kai Ni CA/DD or Sendai's night battle equipment to round out your escort fleet but you can do it. There's still ten days to clear. E-5 was BS all around in comparison.

I recommend using a surface task force with:
Nagato, Kirishima, Kongou, Haruna, Junyou, Chitose in the main fleet and Ooyodo, Yukikaze, Kitakami, Ooi, X, X in escort fleet. X being another CA and DD you feel is the most useful. Surface Task Force northmost route has the best pathing. Night battle BB Hime in the I node isn't very powerful. The biggest problem getting past CV Hime with mostly healthy ships.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2015, 04:02:55 AM by Calamity »

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2015, 04:05:32 AM »
That was generated by Kancolle Viewer
Awesome, never knew something like that existed! You guys are ace \o/
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2015, 04:28:50 AM »
Awesome, never knew something like that existed! You guys are ace \o/
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2015, 09:55:14 PM »
Darn, getting that last kill seems really though...Apparently the flagship Wo in the final form managed to kill enough of my bombers to make the pre-shelling bombing phase deal almost no damage. Support expeditions have only managed to deal scratch damage so far, no idea if the sheer level disadvantage of the support fleet is guaranteeing insignificant impact from them despite inventories full of cannons, or if I've just been unlucky on the accuracy/crit/damage RNG.

Anyone have any idea exactly how aerial combat works? I've noticed that Kaga only lost 11 of her Reppu Kai throughout the whole sortie, but the rest of my aircraft was almost wiped (all the BBVs lost all their saiuns, so no artillery spotting for the boss node, either). It would be great to know if more fighter power can reduce bomber losses somehow; if not, I'm just going to swap Haruna into the main fleet. The BBVs' stat caps are starting to work against them, and Haruna has like 20 more firepower than them in her Kai form when capped.
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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2015, 10:32:35 PM »
I've only got one more kill for E-6. It's gone pretty well so far, so here's hoping my luck holds out.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2015, 10:51:07 PM »
I recommend using a surface task force with:
Nagato, Kirishima, Kongou, Haruna, Junyou, Chitose in the main fleet and Ooyodo, Yukikaze, Kitakami, Ooi, X, X in escort fleet.
orz, I should read what I'm typing. Rune, use Noshiro as your required CL, not Ooyodo. Ooyodo is pointless unless you have Sendai's night battle equips so she can carry them and let the rest of the escort fleet carry more useful equips or if you need her to fill Line of Sight requirements. Noshiro has better stats overall. Also if your CVL's are too squishy you can swap Chitose and Junyou for Yamashiro and Kaga.

Anyone have any idea exactly how aerial combat works?
I'll be lazy and link this  :derp:
On the final kill you will lose lots of bombers regardless of fighter power just because CV Hime will take a lot of them out before reaching the boss. You should keep Kaga in the main fleet and use her as a fighter mule. What does your main fleet consist of? I have used Ise and Hyuuga on clean boss kills albeit higher level(which really only affects evasion and accuracy and not set stats like firepower). Full modernization on each ship matters the most.

Support expeditions are affected by accuracy, if you can add radars and or sparkle the support it can help. Support Shelling is the most effective type but also the most expensive. (2 CV,2 BB, 2DD)
« Last Edit: May 09, 2015, 11:09:17 PM by Calamity »

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2015, 11:04:05 PM »
I managed to finish E-6 and thus, the event. Didn't get Roma though. ;>;

On the upside, I did get Akitsumaru for a third landing craft in my LSC binge... as well as Nagato, four Kongou-class, and a couple of Ise-class.

WHY MUST THE YAMATOS ELUDE ME SO.

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Re: Kancolle Kai 3: The Spring Event - Operation No. 11 is in session!
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2015, 11:26:51 PM »
Hmm...Don't think it's the CV Hime. Before the final form, my bombers still managed to wipe out at least the bottom half of the boss fleet, and occasionally even critting the boss, which is super helpful. Now it's just either misses or scratch damage. Again, not sure if my terrible luck is to blame.

Right now, all of my fleet's lv20+s are like this (some DDs and Naka-chan at the bottom omitted because the current members of the combined fleet far outperform them):

Main fleet is Katsuragi-Hiryuu-Fusou-Hyuuga-Akagi-Kaga, and escort is Isuzu-Haruna-Inazuma-Verniy-Kitakami-Mogami. The planes I use are Type-52 Zero, Suisei, Tenzan and Suiun, with a Tenzan 601 Air Group on Akagi's 32-plane slot, a Reppuu Kai on Kaga's 45-plane slot and a Suisei Model 12A on Hiryuu's 27-plane slot. For the support expedition, I don't have enough leveled CLTs or CVs for any of the non-default support type (or the bauxite for the latter, assuming I fail to wrap this up by the next attempt), so I'm using Tone, Mikuma, Ikazuchi, Hatsuharu, and a lv13 Ise Kai and lv1 Mutsu, all filled to the brim with the default, non-crappy cannons for their classes. Sadly I only have 1 surface radar, which is the one Katsuragi's holding right now ; v; I also have a bunch of air radars, but I don't use them much since I'm assuming they don't boost surface accuracy.
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