Author Topic: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Game Over  (Read 48045 times)

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #720 on: April 23, 2015, 01:19:25 AM »
I can't

fuggin


ahfkhd;flja;sdf

##unvote ##Vote Ellieson
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #721 on: April 23, 2015, 01:20:46 AM »
I guess I owe Serela a big apology since she's now basically confirmed town.  I'm also struggling to see a viable scenario with scum!Oarfish either. 

That leaves Refa/Eli/NNR; of those three.  In addition to their previous content, NNR/Refa both had a fairly big involvement in the last minute lynch of BT so I'm inclined to believe neither of them could be scum. 

Eli...is probably scum by POE even without considering her vote history. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #722 on: April 23, 2015, 01:29:19 AM »
I know who the final scumbuddy of BT and Rawr is.  It is obvious if you look at Day 1.

and since my d1 is pretty scummy, you should just lynch me.
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #723 on: April 23, 2015, 01:57:04 AM »
I get that Eli makes the most sense as scum by PoE, but...what I don't get is why he'd leave his Day 2 vote on BT for pretty much the entire day for such a dumb reason (if he was scum, it would have been simple for him to make a legitimate case on his scumbuddy, regardless of whether or not the dude was a lurker)?  It just doesn't seem like something he'd do as scum (ugh, I wish SB was alive because he knows Elie's meta way better than I do), but at the same time everyone else also has decent interactions off of flipped scum?  Going to read everyones' interactions with scum to see if there was any bussing involved, because that's the only way I can make sense of things.

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #724 on: April 23, 2015, 02:08:47 AM »
Based on interactions, I'm convinced the final scum is neither NNR nor Skypal. 

It's me, you need to vote me. I'm the scum.
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #725 on: April 23, 2015, 02:22:06 AM »
...Seriously?  Well, that saves me a lot of arduous rereading; petition to make Refa the Town MVP.  Kind of curious though, why did you and BT bus each other yesterday?  Were you planning on letting him carry (and then he ended up getting lynched instead of you)?

##Vote: O4rfish

Elieson

  • i herd mafia sucks
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #726 on: April 23, 2015, 02:22:43 AM »
Because I clearly hard defended my entire scum team all game long, right? My reads have been the absolute worst, ughh. Figures that scum have been both metacased and not active really at all.

If you're all keen on lynching me, I saw it coming as soon as I saw BT flip scum, but for what its worth, I'm probably aiming my shot at Shadoweh or maybe Neko, as I highly doubt refascum would be on the same wagon as his buddy. That's like, all the clear you can be at this point and pretty much propelled him up to #1 town read.

No sigs for you

Elieson

  • i herd mafia sucks
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #727 on: April 23, 2015, 02:23:32 AM »
Oh uhhh

##Vote 04RF1$H

I guess?
No sigs for you

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #728 on: April 23, 2015, 02:25:03 AM »
shhh o4rfish go claim scum somewhere else can't you see we're trying to mislynch ellieson based off nothing he actually did

cut by yeah this is really happening isn't it :V

Look if you're town just shoot Ellieson and I'm not even mad. If you -are- scum you're crazy for claiming now tho 'cause after bussing BT you actually had a chance? 3P lylo would admittedly be pretty brutal and you'd likely be lynched but you really had a chance, and the Ellie mislynch today was basically free.

##Unvote ##Vote O4rfish
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #729 on: April 23, 2015, 02:25:34 AM »
Did we just tunnel into each other as town again?  Is this our destiny, Elieson?  Is fate unchangeable?

Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #730 on: April 23, 2015, 02:26:44 AM »
hammer shut up

Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #731 on: April 23, 2015, 02:30:36 AM »
Oarfish was Vanilla Town. Pick a shot.

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #732 on: April 23, 2015, 02:32:23 AM »
"This is for Bard."
##Vig: Serela
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #733 on: April 23, 2015, 02:33:46 AM »
URAAAGHGAHGAHGGHGHHHHH I LITERALLY FORCED TOWN TO LYNCH THE SCUM AGAINST THEIR WILL AND THIS IS WHAT I GET ;_;
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #734 on: April 23, 2015, 02:34:50 AM »
Lmao

Serela was Vanilla Town. 24 hours

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 5
« Reply #735 on: April 23, 2015, 03:02:59 AM »
That's impossible.
I have a proof for this, but it's too long to write in this space.
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #736 on: April 23, 2015, 03:35:53 AM »
aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

NekoRex was a Vanilla Townie but now he's not because he's dead.

ELIESON
REFA
SKY_PALADIN
YOUR FATES ARE ABOUT TO BE DECIDED

It is now Day 6. With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch. You have 72 hours to not lose the game. Good Fucking Luck.

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #737 on: April 23, 2015, 03:38:44 AM »
Oh for fucks sake.
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Night 5
« Reply #738 on: April 23, 2015, 03:40:21 AM »
The following people owe me apologies:
.
1) O4rfish, for claiming scum as town.
2) O4rfish again, for shooting Serela as town (Serela was the TOWNIEST of all of the remaining players).
3) Scum for NKing NNR over me (seriously why I hate being town in LYLO).
4) SB for dragging me into this game to begin with.

Going to read through both of your ISO's when I'm done with my classes for the day.

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #739 on: April 23, 2015, 03:41:34 AM »
Actually, why did scum NK at all?  It would be way easier to win in 4P LYLO (since lynches are forced and all that).

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #740 on: April 23, 2015, 03:41:59 AM »
Well at least NNR died.  I'd like to hand a special thanks to Oarfish for clearing out the only two people I deep down believed had to be town, to make this LYLO even easier for me to work out.  Gugh. 

I'm not voting for either of you just yet.  I think on the balance Eli is probably more scum than Refa, but seeing as we magically got another 72 hours from somewhere, I'll go read up carefully. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #741 on: April 23, 2015, 03:44:10 AM »
I realise that the combined town/scum forces have killed all the native Shrine Maiden folk.  I was expecting town!Refa to die but he's still here so I'm :V why are you here. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #742 on: April 23, 2015, 03:48:11 AM »
Eli
Quote
If you're all keen on lynching me, I saw it coming as soon as I saw BT flip scum, but for what its worth, I'm probably aiming my shot at Shadoweh or maybe Neko, as I highly doubt refascum would be on the same wagon as his buddy. That's like, all the clear you can be at this point and pretty much propelled him up to #1 town read.

Please talk to me some more about this point. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Elieson

  • i herd mafia sucks
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #743 on: April 23, 2015, 03:48:39 AM »
I can safely say that my reads have been the absolute worst of the worst. Given my performance, I'm not surprised that I'm alive after last night, but I suspected that SkyPaladin, the one who's producing the most genuine effort would've been the one to get shot.

SkyPaladin, I have a feeling that we both know Refa's going to be the deciding factor in this. Though, I will say this:

How does O4rfish off'ing Selery (seriously, why did you even do that I'd really like to see a postgame slamdown on bs like that) make lylo EASIER?

ACTUALLY

I'm 99.9% sure Refa is town. Rules state that scum MUST kill
No sigs for you

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #744 on: April 23, 2015, 03:49:45 AM »
That confused me the fuck out of me too.  No offense, NNR, but I don't see why you'd get NKed over me (no ego).  Here's what I'm thinking:

You're scum:
-I've been townreading you for pretty much the whole game (what was NNR's read on you, I should look it up).
-I've been scumreading Elieson for pretty much the entire game, at least until the last few days, and am more likely to vote him over you.

Elieson is scum:
-I'd be less likely to vote him over NNR (since basically everyone considered him obvious scum yesterday except for me).
-NNR was more willing to vote him maybe?  I haven't done any ISO's yet, so I'd have to see which of the two of you would make a better NK for Scum!Elie.

Elieson

  • i herd mafia sucks
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #745 on: April 23, 2015, 03:52:52 AM »
Eli
Please talk to me some more about this point. 

Given those who were alive:

I'm sure you haven't forgotten my near life-tunnel on Selery
my Refa read had changed, which I stated already like what, two hours ago?
O4rfish's behavior was so erratic that I really couldn't make heads or tails of it. With my inability to read him, I expected that the rest of town would ultimately get scum!O4rfish lynched without my help. Call it what you like, the game's become pretty meta-heavy and I'm not going to act like it's not influencing suspicions. You shouldn't either.
Honestly I didn't even look at the nightflip, and just posted what I was thinking which was to put a shot in Shadoweh if I was lynched, which looking back after the hammer, means I really need to pay attention more
NekoRex's play had been diminishing as the game went on (where mine apparently dropped drastically). I would've thought about it and probably popped a cap here, since I felt like I was tunneling you wrongly at this point in the game, and you've been working to produce content which no one can really deny.
No sigs for you

Elieson

  • i herd mafia sucks
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #746 on: April 23, 2015, 03:57:29 AM »
Actually, why did scum NK at all?  It would be way easier to win in 4P LYLO (since lynches are forced and all that).

ACTUALLY

I'm 99.9% sure Refa is town. Rules state that scum MUST kill

Like, I can't see scum!Refa posting such a question when it's pretty obvious to him that he as scum would have to take the kill. A Rules!Gambit just wouldn't make sense at this stage in the game...how would you even overlook something like that.

No sigs for you

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #747 on: April 23, 2015, 03:58:13 AM »
How does O4rfish off'ing Selery (seriously, why did you even do that I'd really like to see a postgame slamdown on bs like that) make lylo EASIER?

ACTUALLY

I'm 99.9% sure Refa is town. Rules state that scum MUST kill

I don't think you've got the right of things here, but would like to see his answer before giving my own thoughts here (don't want to accidentally influence it).

Wait, seriously?  *Goes through the rules one more time* Oh...I suppose they must.  My bad.

Also can you answer Skype's question?  I don't get why I'd be confirmed town for being on the same wagon as scum.  If anything, wouldn't that make me more likely to be scum?

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #748 on: April 23, 2015, 04:02:36 AM »
Like, I can't see scum!Refa posting such a question when it's pretty obvious to him that he as scum would have to take the kill. A Rules!Gambit just wouldn't make sense at this stage in the game...how would you even overlook something like that.

IT'S A SIMPLE MISTAKE ANYONE COULD HAVE MADE IT.  The worst part is, I know I read that rule before, so I don't even know how I forgot it.  ;_;

Elieson

  • i herd mafia sucks
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 6
« Reply #749 on: April 23, 2015, 04:04:08 AM »
I don't see both remaining mafia tying themselves to the same attempted mislynch, given the fact that the other lynch that actually occured was pretty likely to happen given the heat/performance at yesterphase end.
No sigs for you