Author Topic: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Game Over  (Read 48052 times)

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #600 on: April 21, 2015, 12:29:57 AM »
plz make proper case on me so I may refute
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

NekoNekoRex

  • Catgirls are Charming!
  • *
  • Catgirl Enthusiast
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #601 on: April 21, 2015, 12:33:12 AM »
It's mostly gut but the post that really got me thinking was your BT vote, and your posts since then, since you're not playing to find scum, you're playing to find which player is the most reliable vigger if flipped town.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #602 on: April 21, 2015, 12:34:46 AM »
What, no.

I'm doing that based on the people I already think are scum.

THESE PEOPLE WERE ALREADY MY SCUMREADS BEFORE TODAY ;_;
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

NekoNekoRex

  • Catgirls are Charming!
  • *
  • Catgirl Enthusiast
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #603 on: April 21, 2015, 12:36:20 AM »
Why are you so worried about who gets the vig, then? What's your opinion of Oarfish?
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

NekoNekoRex

  • Catgirls are Charming!
  • *
  • Catgirl Enthusiast
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #604 on: April 21, 2015, 12:37:17 AM »
You people really think I actively shoved rawr from 0 to turbolynched just for powerbussing? ;_____;
And yeah, I mean I bought into it, and Rawr was worthless to scum, so why not?
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

NekoNekoRex

  • Catgirls are Charming!
  • *
  • Catgirl Enthusiast
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #605 on: April 21, 2015, 12:41:43 AM »
See, here's my thoughts.

You want to lynch BT. If BT is lynched and flips town, then he'll shoot Oarfish. And if Shadoweh is your scumbuddy, you've successfully gotten two townies dead with no consequence to you.

Then it's LYLO, and scum always wins Serela LYLO.

The fun part is you're waffling on your own BT read so it's really obvious what you're doing.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

NekoNekoRex

  • Catgirls are Charming!
  • *
  • Catgirl Enthusiast
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #606 on: April 21, 2015, 12:46:40 AM »
I'm obvtown on D3, a full day after a scumlynch, so obviously scum expects to know what I'm going to do.

Therefore, the best plan is to do exactly the opposite of what they suspect  8)

##Unvote
##Vote: Serela
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #607 on: April 21, 2015, 01:00:35 AM »
Things:

Oarfish changed vote in RVS to Dormio. 
Serela "I'm their third scumbuddy" (Dormio/Mits now dead) votes Dormio after Oarfish. 
Elie third on Dormio wagon.
Eli votes me for "I don't 100% believe Serela is scum"; which in hindsight is why scum!Rawr lated voted me. 
Eli appeal to meta, "Is Bard usually this abrasive?"
Rawr sheeps Eli on Sky.  Sky is applying pressure to Serela at this stage. 
Serela Dormio vote "Since it somewhat matters in this situation- yeah, the Dormio vote was vaguely serious, but only enough to get over RVS tier vote strength", which was the basis of why Mits/Sky were scumreading Serela. Quickly followed by vote!Sky+sheep Eli. 
Dan/Shadoweh - townreads on Mits/Sky/NNR. 
Mitsuki wall on Serela which Serela ignored to focus on my accusation of her lying. 
Serela threat to replace out because *pressure* summarises Serela's day 1 actually. 
Oarfish bizarre post?
Serela throwing suspicion on the Oarfish wagon/appeal to audience instead of questioning Oarfish directly. 
Oarfish check out of the game post.  Still bad even now. 
BT votes Oarfish over Dormio.  We know Dormio flips town and is rated more dangerous than Oarfish -> likely a town BT from this. 
Dan conversely still happy with Dormio lynch. 
Mits summarises what Oarfish' give up looks like. 
Dan - odd self contradiction from Dan:
Quote
I disagree with every argument so far saying that oarish is scum, from bardiche on down to mitsuki.  He isn't a town read though. I still stink sky is town
And offers to hammer. 
Refa deciding the lynch on town!Dormio.  If Oarfish later flips scum, this post needs further examination. 
Sky - I asked a question to NNR/Rawr/Elieson, who all failed to vote for one of Dormio or Oarfish.  Since at least one scum was found off-wagon, this may have some weight. 
SB scumteam - Eli > NNR > Rawr
Oarfish this post admits that NNR vote was more to see result from pressure than from a scum read, then agrees with Bard that NNR is scum.  Appears to be the start of (manufactured) NNR scum read.  Probably scum Oarfish in this post. 
NNR 180 unvote from Oarfish/vote on SB.  Seems reactive to SB's list; NNR has very twitch votes this game.  NNR does out lay a case though so it's not clearly bad. 
Serela "I can't blame Shadoweh's read on me" not the Serela I know. 
Serala's possible scumteam:  "NNR/Rawr/___" followed up with vote on Rawr.  NNR has more votes at this stage though, so if she really believed in it, should have been a vote on NNR. 
Serela justifies vote on Rawr over NNR.  Hrm.. 
Eli response to sudden Rawr wagon emergence, "Let's lynch Sky." 
Rawr vote on NNR/sheep Bard. 

I think this interaction (Elie votes Sky/Rawr votes NNR) is worth considering in greater detail.  Elie wrote a great deal in her post; votes me after a Rawr wagon comes in to existence.  It would have been easier to vote NNR - Rawr did it.  Rawr also did not sheep Eli on to me, which is what I would have expected if they were scum buddies. 

***

NNR - some good questioning of Oarfish. 
Oarfish - after arguing with NNR for some time, suddenly votes Zak.  Mollified somewhat that NNR also votes Zak later - the two continue fighting for the rest of the thread.  Make out already. 
Shadoweh - Meta post.  I hate everything about it. 
Shadoweh at least votes not!Zak. 
Serela a whole page of foreshadowing, voting, and retro-actively justifying.  Bad. 
Eli ditches her vote on Refa, forgets her Sky scum read, and votes Zak. Bad, except Eli is the counterwagon to Zak, so, it'd be hard to draw purely scum motivation out of it. 

***today***

Serela "I can better trust in BT's future actions even if they-are- coming from scum?" and then "Play wise I'd far sooner lynch BT than NNR."

Many cuts.  Hitting post and reviewing. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #608 on: April 21, 2015, 01:07:42 AM »
Why are you so worried about who gets the vig, then? What's your opinion of Oarfish?
I'm not but I have little else to worry about. Also haven't I repeatedly said I think his more play the last couple days is more likely a town o4rfish? Maybe not today as much but at least yesterday, plus all the effort on d2 even if it was obfuscating as F, I think O4rfish is town now.
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #609 on: April 21, 2015, 01:08:58 AM »
I'm not but I have little else to worry about.
it's also just in general a nice thing for "hmmm person A could be scum or B could be scum, A is getting a lot of votes and if we're wrong it's not as bad, B you're unsure about and if you're wrong that'd might be really bad, hmmm which should I pick"
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #610 on: April 21, 2015, 01:20:27 AM »
Reflecting on *things*

We can't have an Oarfish in LYLO, period.  He is too big of a liability.  I'm also feeling that Oarfish is keeping his cards to his chest.  Who are his scum reads? 
General flakiness on reads, voting.  This one indicates he was scum reading NNR because he was sheeping Bard, rather than on his own basis.  That means the arguments with NNR may have been fabricated. 

Probably my main proponent for a lynch today.  If we're wrong, he would shoot BT for lurking.  Not my preferred shot. 

I'd like to shoot:

Shadoweh:  No real content.  Meta comments/not focused on game state.  Slot actually decreased in activity since Dan replaced out!  Passive/reactive Shadoweh looks like scum!Shadoweh. 

Eli:  Mainly interactions/votes that line up well with Eli/Rawr scum buddies. 

Serela:  I'm pretty sure I caught scum!Serela on day 1 with her lying about Dormio/Sky votes, and I feel like my epic destiny is to self-lynch in LYLO and shoot her for great justice. 

But more seriously - I feel Serela's vote on Zak and posturing around that vote on day 3 makes me uncomfortable.  Additionally, a number of posts concern me. 
Calls out Oarfish for calling out BT for lurking
Quote
Wait, O4rfish is accusing BT of lurking? He hasn't made a large amount of posts, but the ones he has made are some of the best things in the game.
and here:
Quote
And I don't even know what the case behind the BT wagon -is-

Contrast with today's BT vote:
Quote
If BT flips scum, that's awesome, but if he flips town I can still trust the vig shot is in good hands.
Focus is on "Don't get shot", not "I think BT is scum."

When asked "Who would you shoot, Serela?" responded with BT/Ellie/Shadoweh.
Scum picks do appear foreshadowed so this isn't as cut and dry as I'd like. 

***

Feels like Shadoweh/Oarfish scum to me at the moment. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #611 on: April 21, 2015, 01:24:29 AM »
I'm confident we can lynch scum!Shadoweh in LYLO.  I don't want her lynched this day phase.  I don't mind if she gets shot.  She won't be missed :V

I feel that Oarfish is the biggest liability right now.  If we can lynch a scum this day phase, then we've got one more shot at volcano love in LYLO, which would make for a great finish. 

Serela is a problem.  I still don't like Eli but I think the slot has improved. 

If we mislynched Oarfish, I'd like him to shoot Serela.  If we lynched scum!Oarfish, then we can play this game again in the next day phase. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Refa

  • The Nameless Monster
  • This is what I can do, from me to you.
    • YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #612 on: April 21, 2015, 01:48:02 AM »
I'll make a more detailed post later on when I actually have the time to be making a post (really should be studying for a midterm now lol), but here are my current reads.

Town
Refa- No duh, Sherlock.
NNR- The only way he could be scum is if there were scum/scum wagons on D2, and besides that his actual content itself has improved like significantly (or maybe it's just me confirmation biasing less after I reevaluated my read on him following Dr. Rawr's flip).
Sky Paladin- My strongest townread based purely on content.  Not really sure what more to say here, I think my only issue is that he's been hesitant to put down a vote, but it's not scummy (just seems like bad play, although I've done the same myself so I probably shouldn't be complaining about him).
Shadoweh- I uh...don't really get the scumreads on her?  Either she plays like an SSS scumgame or is probably town.  Like, I was more eh on her earlier, but her most recent posts are good (what stood out to me is that I don't see her saying "I'd make these same kills as scum" as scum...I don't really know her meta, but it seems like it'd be a really ballsy thing to say regardless), and she's like the only person who explained her BT vote (and it was good, thanks).  Please explain.

Null
Selery- Was townreading her for the whole game, but I feel like I haven't made a serious effort to analyze this slot since like D1, so dropping here moreso to show that I am going to ISO him rather than because I suddenly thought the slot was scummier.
Elieson- I don't even know anymore.  Would like him to actually make a post today because I can't even tell what his thoughts are anymore, and that's annoying me.
BT- Moreso here because of PoE, since I was townreading his earlier posts, but his lack of followups + Shadoweh's case + all of my other townreads being townier makes me less sure about his slot overall.  Probably should ISO him just to make sure though, I don't like my second highest scumread being a null read either.

Scum
Oarfish- Already explained this in enough detail, my only issues are 1) Not sure who makes sense as Oarfish's scumbuddy and 2) Do they really play like this as town?  I'm uh, unfamiliar with the meta here, so not sure what to make of NNR saying that.

NekoNekoRex

  • Catgirls are Charming!
  • *
  • Catgirl Enthusiast
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #613 on: April 21, 2015, 01:50:04 AM »
Skypal: any reason you think for scum keeping me alive post-rawr?

I can get behind a 'if Oarfish flips town then shoot Serela', since Oarfish scum still makes very much sense as far as his content, it's just been bugging me I'm still alive and I don't like the BT wagon or the people on it.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #614 on: April 21, 2015, 02:00:30 AM »
SkyPal, your quotes were from D1 and the very start of d2... you think it's weird that my read of BT isn't the same that it was on D1? >_>; I've said plenty of things about BT since then.
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #615 on: April 21, 2015, 02:04:27 AM »
Like seriously SkyPal, you go "Look! Serela thought BT was really town D1! But... LOOK! Now Serela's voting BT! Terrible!" and you ignore that I've actually changed my read on BT forever ago with actual words.

I should probably link to them but I'm really lazy and you're far too stuck on your "Serela lied and lied and lied and told me he lied more!" from d1 to possibly change your mind anyway :V Besides you probably know they happened already?
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #616 on: April 21, 2015, 02:06:06 AM »
NNR
Quote
Skypal: any reason you think for scum keeping me alive post-rawr?

Serela/your own threat assessment is generally in line with my own.  SB/BT higher scum priority targets.  That's why I'm :V at the BT votes. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #617 on: April 21, 2015, 02:14:11 AM »
I don't understand what you just said. :C What does BT being a player scum may likely consider for an NK in general game meta, have to do with me voting him right now?
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #618 on: April 21, 2015, 02:48:05 AM »
Because, I didn't say 'night kill'.  I said 'priority target'. 

Hey look where all my main scum picks are voting!

Quote
BT (3) - Shadoweh, Serela, O4rfish

That's why. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #619 on: April 21, 2015, 02:57:15 AM »
Well, I guess that makes sense. :T Darn.
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #620 on: April 21, 2015, 03:02:13 AM »
I actually keep trying to come up with a better response then that but I can't. Damn. I didn't think that would happen.

Well, it's bedtime for me.
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

Elieson

  • i herd mafia sucks
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #621 on: April 21, 2015, 03:11:48 AM »
Expect little from me until now because i dunno I've just been getting my groove back also been really busy with my daughter since yesterday.

I'VE COME TO DECLARE THAT I'm feeling like my reads are fucked up; but

Don't really want to Lynch

Serela: No point in heading up the Rawr wagon, or even messing around with it. Day 1 debacle with SkyPaladin and Mitsuki left him acting how I would expect town to act; cornered and pissed
BT: Expected townie-style of play and maybe I just have tunnelvision on him for townreads for days but his sparse posts just come across with a natural feel and town intent behind them
Elie: Yea I mean I wouldn't mind having a bullet to fire but the last time I played a volcanic game I ended up shooting badplay mctownlurker so my motivation to not have the shot is based on failed past too yes i'm meta-casing myself if you're gonna lynch me just do it when I'm not responsible for shooting

Might Lynch for at least consolidation
SkyPaladin: Really improved content offsets the sour taste of Day 1.
Refa: Returned to his classic meta, which is something that doesn't normally happen, also I feel like his condensed list of reads like 5 posts up is accurate enough to get him by, and he hasn't done /that/ much in terms of scummy activity
NekoRex: A fairly decent earlygame but I feel like not much of it is conviction. O4rfish case was probably the most solid thing about early game but less contribution as the game goes on? Idk. Considering the volume of posts, I'm not feeling it after two readthroughs of his ISO. I feel like his Selery inquires, while decent, are just filler presentation. Those kinds of lines really giving you a reason to vote for Selery but you're acting like they are and it's just not right. You're better than this, you can find actual reasons to vote for Selery, rather than having the "final straw" be related to double-edged sword questioneering

Wouldn't mind Lynching

O4rfish: I'm feeling like it's just a wasted effort trying to interpret record breaking waffling and crackpot theories that make Hitler look like a 5th grader doing a science fair. Couldn't handle SkyPaladin's questionairre, and that just doesn't add up. I wouldn't expect these two to be of the same alignment
Action Shadowdan: Didn't produce anything after our little debacle, and still never really cooperated with anything. That much paranoia from someone who speaks in such a way does not add up.


No sigs for you

Serela

  • Moon Tiara Magic
  • VIA PIZZA SLINGING
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #622 on: April 21, 2015, 03:30:27 AM »
wow I'm not actually in bed who's surprised I'm not ;_;

Elieson reminds me Shadoweh still isn't town and I should probably be paying more attention to her. I never really thought I'd encounter trouble with BT getting lynched and there's never been talk about actual interest in seriously doing a lynch on her (of course, she basically entered the game d3, so that helped :T), so I didn't mind putting her off for another day, but it's probably time to stop putting up excuses and actually reread her

tomorrow

after I go to bed
<mauvecow> see this is how evil works in reality, it just wears you down with bureaucracy until you don't care anymore

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #623 on: April 21, 2015, 04:42:09 AM »
Yeah, not seeing how my detailed answer to Skypal's bogus question makes me scummy in any respect. 
"You were supposed to answer who Scum would kill based on all previous games but not this game" WTF?

I'm also feeling that Oarfish is keeping his cards to his chest.  Who are his scum reads?
Are you trolling? I've made transparent scumreads in every day starting with d2. 

Why would I even consider following the vig suggestions of someone who's reading half the players opposite of how I am? 
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #624 on: April 21, 2015, 04:49:09 AM »
SB/BT higher scum priority targets.  That's why I'm :V at the BT votes.
Scum ain't gonna nk scum you know.

Let's take a look at what BT's got:
voted Dormio
didn't vote Rawr
voted Zak

The reason I say proddodge is because I haven't read the thread enough to say I know what I'm doing.
Flagrantly irresponsible at best.  Never responded to the points I raised about his d3 post.  In fact, the only direct post he's responded to since d1 ended was Shadoweh's Droopy Dog thing, which he would have gotten the reference to if he'd actually read the previous post she made.
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 2
« Reply #625 on: April 21, 2015, 05:17:49 AM »
NNR:
But when I ignore him I'm scum because I wasn't ignoring him (and scum because I wasn't)
I want to scumread Oarfish, yes, but I don't want to be lynched because I am scumreading Oarfish
these posts are still bad.

You question literally every townread people have on me. Isn't that a little bit insane?
I'm questioning the reliability of alternate wagon to scum being obvtown, and I'm questioning a townread with no justification.  Is that too much?
Note: I just now searched for "counterwagon" on google, and what did I find?  Ace Attorney: Raikaria pointing to his counterwagon, when both (all three) wagons were scum!
Players in that game: Bard, Serela, and the Mod was BT.

Why is BT town?
I still ultimately lean scum on Oarfish though. Really liked NNR's case. It also occured to me that the parts I remember the best from Oarfish's ISO is him on the defensive, like in this post. I think his cases this game are underwhelming, in general and in contrast to the amount of effort put in. Serela and NNR are pretty much the only two slots I'm comfortable reading as town and it rubs off very badly on his Serela vote and his NNR interactions.
Quote
(Oarfish)Weak. You aren't saying WHAT you like about NNR's case.  And my cases suck compared to the amount of effort?  Are you trying to say that your tiny amount of effort is a good thing?
BTW, claiming a townread on NNR is funny considering you haven't mentioned him at all this whole game. 
Quote
(NNR)I think this is a pretty weak argument against BT. He's basically right about you, your defense hasn't been bad but your reads and cases have been pretty shitty. Your main gripe with BT here he is townreading me (conflicting with your read) and that he's voting Zak despite having no earlier read on him.
The thing is, townreading you isn't bad.  Townreading you for no reason given IS. 
This type of activity isn't unique to Scum-BT, just seems more odd when he does it. 
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

O4rfish

  • something seems fishy
  • paranoia 4 lyfe
    • Ask an Oarfish!
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #626 on: April 21, 2015, 05:30:23 AM »
Seriously, once "scum counterwagon" was raised, Bard BT and Serela should have jumped all over that, no matter what NNR's alignment is.  Ace Attorney was only 3 games ago. 
[9:49:09] <Purvis> Generally not, but your mother may be an exception.

NekoNekoRex

  • Catgirls are Charming!
  • *
  • Catgirl Enthusiast
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #627 on: April 21, 2015, 05:50:10 AM »
Would Rawr really make such a weak counterwagon when he would be a lot less likely to live to endgame if I died (and was scum)?
Strategically it'd make more sense for Rawr just to self-hammer and not mention me at all.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Sky_Paladin

  • Caution is advised.
  • Unit vector from the center is the surface normal?
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #628 on: April 21, 2015, 07:42:18 AM »
##vote Oarfish
That is L-1. 

Oarfish, if you're town, I'd like you to shoot Serela. 
My programming et al blog;
http://infinitestateautomaton.wordpress.com/

You want more mafia?
Megatokyo Mafia

Shadoweh

  • I will ahn~ vote count for you
  • *
  • The STRONGEST Day Effect
Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 4
« Reply #629 on: April 21, 2015, 09:56:14 AM »
Sky OP:*shrug* You can hate all the voters but BT himself hasn't posted anything I would call town. That one post of his I quoted has one scumread in it and some questions that don't add up to reads.  I am insulted that I keep being called out for lurking when I'm not. I'm posting at least 4 times as much as the person I'm voting!
That post you linked as a 'meta post' was all about the current game state. And about how lynching on the wagon is shameful. What's your problem?
Elieson reminds me Shadoweh still isn't town and I should probably be paying more attention to her. I never really thought I'd encounter trouble with BT getting lynched and there's never been talk about actual interest in seriously doing a lynch on her (of course, she basically entered the game d3, so that helped :T), so I didn't mind putting her off for another day, but it's probably time to stop putting up excuses and actually reread her
[/quote
I'm pretty sure I'm town actually. Being absent has never stopped people from lynching me before. There has been CONSTANT talk about people thinking I'm scummy, Serela. The reason I'm not getting lynched is no one wants to go there. Because they know it will fail spectacularily.  :yukkuri:


Kitten4u: "I'll say it plainly: THERE IS NO WAY SHADOWEH IS SCUM!" - A Balanced Game of Mafia