Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Game Over

[Mitsuki]

man I was really looking forward to finally rolling scum.  At least my streak is still alive.

^ it's this
the relevant point though is that he didn't clarify it wasn't a scumclaim, he just stopped posting. Town wouldn't do that

[SB]

Not super psyched over Oarfish/Dormio wagons, but I prefer Oarfish. His posts don't radiate an aura of getting stuff done, nor did I find them townie, nor did I find the defense pretty good.

I feel like BT is scum if Oarfish is town because I have no idea how he can say Dormio has been trying to get things done when he's basically spent the day tunneling Sky with a case that he summed up in two sentences.

[SB]

Why does scum want to stop posting and stop defending themselves?

[Mitsuki]

I don't know? But he gave up
as town he would have clarified that it wasn't a scumclaim. Why would he want to stop posting as town, anyways?

[SB]

Why does Oarfish want to stop posting regardless of alignment? This argument doesn't make sense.

[BT]

BT why are you against this?

There were some early Dormio posts I thought looked town.

Went back to look, I think it was this part -

My gut reaction would be to sheep cases on Serela because I love easy cases and being lazy, but something is telling me that this isn't really the way to go.
##Vote Sky Paladin
Yeah, I liked my vote more when it was here so I might as well put it back.

I'm dismissive to the whole "Oarfish is scum for not saying he's not scum" thing because resigned townies do dumb things. So I'm still not sure about this lynch but it's still what I prefer.

[BT]

I feel like BT is scum if Oarfish is town because I have no idea how he can say Dormio has been trying to get things done when he's basically spent the day tunneling Sky with a case that he summed up in two sentences.

For the record, this wasn't a list of things I thought Dormio HAS done. I just never got the feel that his posts were malicious or anything.

[SB]

I understand that, but I don't understand why you would use it as justification for pushing Oarfish over Dormio instead of just "I thought he was town earlier"? It reads weirdly.

[Mitsuki]

SB, why do you never understand what I mean
why does this always happen

why


Let's make it simple

if Oarfish is town

1. Says something
2. People ask him if he's scumclaiming
3. Suddenly stops posting

conclusion: makes 0 sense

if Oarfish is scum

1. Claims scum
2. People ask him if he's claiming scum
3. Suddenly stops posting

conclusion: it makes all of the sense, because he gave up already

[SB]

I don't see why scum Oarfish would give up here though? He wasn't even in a bad position considering he had two viable counterwagons at the time. Him disappearing seems more like a having to leave thing than an alignment tell.

[BT]

Why does Oarfish want to stop posting regardless of alignment? This argument doesn't make sense.

If I get what you're saying... it's a playstyle thing? If I decide to off someone I'll post what I think about the guy. Just posting "I prefer this to Dormio" would have felt lacking.

Mitsuki: makes 0 sense != impossible.

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

O4rfish (6) - Bardiche, Refa, Serela, Dormio, BT, Elieson
Dormio (5) - O4rfish, Zakeri, ActionDan, Sky_Paladin, SB
Serela (1) - NekoRex
Sky_Paladin (1) - Dr Rawr
Not Voting: Mitsuki

You have 25 minutes left in the day. With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

[BT]

Actually it's more than "not impossible", it's how I've seen town do dumber stuff so many times, it's... actually it's not "practically null", I take that back, but I still don't feel like it deserves this much weight.

[Elieson]

but what's the scum intent in feigning inactivity as scum, or giving up on d1?


there really isn't any?


mitsssssssssssssssssss

[ActionDan]

I disagree with every argument so far saying that oarish is scum, from bardiche on down to mitsuki.  He isn't a town read though. I still stink sky is town

[Mitsuki]

I don't get Elie's post

Also I don't know why he'd give up but I just see he's given up. If he's actually town and he did that then I'll implode.
But I still think he's scum regardless of the reaction test, and I'm really confident on that so yeah

[ActionDan]

Ill be here to hammer tho

[SB]

Didn't PX do something similar in AA mafia to Oarfish disappearing here as town? I remember trying hard to get him lynched for it.

What reaction test?

[SB]

Found it.

[Elieson]

I don't get Elie's post

Also I don't know why he'd give up but I just see he's given up. If he's actually town and he did that then I'll implode.
But I still think he's scum regardless of the reaction test, and I'm really confident on that so yeah

Let's make it simple

if Oarfish is town

1. Says something
2. People ask him if he's scumclaiming
3. Suddenly stops posting

conclusion: makes 0 sense

if Oarfish is scum

1. Claims scum
2. People ask him if he's claiming scum
3. Suddenly stops posting

conclusion: it makes all of the sense, because he gave up already

mits i'm asking why the latter automatically makes more sense than the former? IMO scum wouldn't jokingly claim scum  anticipating that nobody would notice it. scum is typically careful about this kind of thing;

why risk it?

[Sky_Paladin]

Here and reading.

[Mitsuki]

I think Oarfish claimed scum because he gave up though, not as a strategical thing

is this really so hard to understand

[Elieson]

yes

it's day 1 and he had like barely any pressure on him

that's like quitting monopoly because you didn't land on Park Place on your first lap around the board

[SB]

He literally implied that he was glad he'd kept up his streak of rolling town. How was it a scumclaim?

[Elieson]

If you can explain why mafia would throw in the towel D1 then I'm all ears

[SB]

[Mitsuki]

ugh, I'm not even sure about what Oarfish posted anymore

let me ISO him quickly

[Elieson]

SB do you think Mits would push something like this as town?

[GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em]

10 more minutes!

[SB]

I really want to say no, but I'm not sure because her stubbornness reminds me of Code Geass mafia AND CYOU'RE so I don't even know.