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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2015, 10:47:34 PM »
I'll care about your feelings about as much as I care to comment on anything outside of Mitsuki's vote. Don't bother demanding I nitpick over every post in this game, I won't do it anyway. I'll comment on stuff that sticks out, such as Mitsuki voting Serela.

^ To be honest I'm inclined to agree with SB on Bardiche. This response feels too agressive; I know that Bard tends to be a jerk when it comes to talking to people in mafia but he seems too bothered this time. As town I'd expect he'd actually have defended his read when questioned about it instead of just attacking the person who is suspecting him.
This also goes with his meta as far as I recall.

Why is this specifically scummy for Serela? What in his actions is unlike town!Serela?

It's not specifically scummy for Serela, if someone else had done the same I'd be voting for them instead.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2015, 10:59:56 PM »
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As town I'd expect

It's because you make ridiculous expectations that "a Town!Bard would", which is a strawman argument that demands I behave in specific way Y and can never behave in any other way without being suspicious. Sorry! This is just how it's going to be.

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It's not specifically scummy for Serela, if someone else had done the same I'd be voting for them instead.

Last game we got over a huge argument re: Sky Pal meta, why are you disregarding Serela meta?

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #92 on: April 06, 2015, 11:24:17 PM »
PPS Elieson, why is Sky over justifying himself scummy?  It's one thing if he's faking conviction that he shouldn't have at this stage, but he's well not.  Please explain.

The fact that he provided justification the way he did is what's scummy. He placed conviction on his vote, then in his later post (the one I cited), waffled on his read but not enough to indicate that he was serious about maintaining his vote. In fact, until he said 60% at the end, his context made it seem like he actually didn't want to keep his vote on Selrara

*p.edit

is Bard really this abrasive normally? I don't remember him being so kurt in our SF games. Seems a bit out of character to me
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2015, 11:32:39 PM »
I'm not actually ready to post again yet but is it really necessary to dig into Bard's mood that much, I mean it's the reason his responses are like that in the first place
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #94 on: April 07, 2015, 12:14:31 AM »
I honestly don't get why you people assume the worst and think I'm being a jerk. I'm being upfront: I don't care for SB's "I feel"s about who I am, and even if he demands it I'm not going to bother dissecting every post made. Despite his claims, I never do that in the early game. At best, he's got a wrong idea about my playstyle. At worst, he's using a strawman to attack me. In either case, I don't think it's worth getting into much at this stage.

If Mitsuki thinks I'm "bothered", it's because SB's style of voting is pretty scummy.
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I feel like town!Bard would've been riled up about Serela's posts or at least have some kind of opinion on them.
This blatantly states that if I am to present myself as Town, I should have an opinion on Serela or be "riled up" by them, even if I hardly ever pay overly much attention to Serela's antics outside of voting him for waffling.

If you think I'm honestly being "a jerk" and "abrasive" and "kurt", uh, feel free to send me hateful PMs about what a terrible person I am. But if it isn't relevant to the game, I'd appreciate you leave the ad hominem out of it. Even if veiled in eloquence.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #95 on: April 07, 2015, 12:16:51 AM »
And for the record: while I think SB's style of voting is scummy, I don't actually think he's scummier than Mitsuki, or scummy enough to bother pursuing over. This style of argument never holds water into the lategame, and if he wants to keep his vote on me I'm perfectly convinced he'll find more substantial reason to do so, or abandon his vote when he can't find reason. There's hardly anything in the game right now that I think his vote on me is perfectly understandable if he believes what he says about me.

He's just wrong, but being wrong isn't automatically scummy.

Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #96 on: April 07, 2015, 12:57:37 AM »
serela isnt scum you people are crazy you heard it from dr rawr first.

i have no idea what mitsuki means by bard being to aggressive. would mitsuki give some kind of obvious example of bardiche being a jerk as town and being even more of a jerk as scum?

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i dont like the wording on his #71 that seems to make out that scum has to be either mitsuki or serela

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #97 on: April 07, 2015, 01:05:19 AM »
Zak is scummy because lurking is scummy. Popping in with the chance to give content and then stating you're not is scummy, he doesn't even bother to read the thread, The notion he'd have 'no idea what to do' is crap, plenty of other people are throwing votes down, he can just as well.

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Do you expect scum to outright say that they're active lurking?  Do you think he's taking refuge in audacity?
It's clearly a prod dodge, the only content he gives is gut and he doesn't bother to explain it. As far as refuge in audacity, I wouldn't know, as I don't analyze meta very much (as I tend to call it out anyway). If I was to say, it's that Zak generally has a habit of not contributing much anyway, and I'd rather be rid of a player who lurks all game sooner rather then later, regardless of alignment.

The Mitsuki stuff reads as strong opinions, which are good this early in the game when there's little content. I'd consider a weak vote like Sky's more glaringly scummy then even a vote that doesn't have the best reasoning, but at least is a sure read.

The actual reasoning behind both Mitsuki's vote and the votes on Mitsuki seem well-placed, but I don't think they're particularly scummy.

Then again now I'm having a problem with all this meta talk
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #98 on: April 07, 2015, 01:54:03 AM »
Mitsuki, why are you asking Serela for his thoughts on the game when he's been posting more than most people?
I actually find this question a little weird, because all but one post was just responses to Mitsuki that didn't actually elaborate about the game.

I agree with Elieson about SP's "don't 100% believe Serela is scum" looking a little weird, overjustifying votes is something to be suspicious of from my experience (not elaborating unless someone deems it necessary because :effort:) and since the game was still nearly RVS, well, yeah.

...oh the reread is over, right, the game only just started <.<; Nothing else sticks out to me. TBH I had some Mitsuki stuff I pulled out as looking too tryhard to the point of being suspicious but when I actually examined it I changed my mind. I dunno, I still feel like there might be something there, but I can't pinpoint what's triggering my gut. I'll just have to leave it keeping an eye on Mitsuki for now to see if that goes away or not.

...Dormio hasn't posted, I'm not sure if that should make me want to leave my vote there more, or less? I guess when I think about it, even though the SkyP wonkiness is light, the reason I was voting Dormio is even more ephemeral and I shouldn't even be treating it like a real vote :V (Since it somewhat matters in this situation- yeah, the Dormio vote was vaguely serious, but only enough to get over RVS tier vote strength)
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #99 on: April 07, 2015, 01:54:18 AM »
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #100 on: April 07, 2015, 05:38:55 AM »
Hmm, OK Shadoweh well ... waitasec, that's not Shadoweh!

I find Bard to be acting suspiciously tolerant.
He's just wrong, but being wrong isn't automatically scummy.
This is true, except we are in the early game and playing with hardly any information. 

Yknow what's scummy to me? Claiming scum, then disappearing! Everyone feel free to vote Dormio along with me.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #101 on: April 07, 2015, 05:43:51 AM »
@Ellie
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this kind justification is beyond unnecessary especially at this stage in the game. someone's being a little too cautious when they don't have any reason to even consider _strong_ scumreads as something worth stating.

I don't have a strong scum read on Serela.  That is why I said I don't 100% believe Serela is scum. 

I have what amounts to somewhere between a policy lynch (lynch anybody who claims scum) and a general feeling that Serela's posts are noncontent backpedalling escapes from Mitsuki's fairly straightforward questions.  I'm not really sure how you're getting a strong justification out of anything I've said so far, but please do clarify. 

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The fact that he provided justification the way he did is what's scummy. He placed conviction on his vote, then in his later post (the one I cited), waffled on his read but not enough to indicate that he was serious about maintaining his vote. In fact, until he said 60% at the end, his context made it seem like he actually didn't want to keep his vote on Selrara

I'm not serious about maintaining my vote.  It's a step up from RVS, but I'm not going OMG SERELA IS TOTES SCUM LYNCH WITH FIRE.  You're misreading me. 

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How is this relevant to Serela.

In my experience, scum!Serela tends to tunnel/out her buddies pretty early, so for her to claim scum is worth investigating by flip.  It's certainly the best thing I've seen so far this phase. 

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2015, 06:11:21 AM »
If I mentioned Bard's attitude it's because I found it scummy, not because I think he's a terrible person and I like spreading hate in mafia games. lol

I don't know why but I didn't mention some of my thoughts on Bardiche on my case. His two first posts (his case on me) seem pretty uninvolved, and it feels more like he's voting me on not being up to expectations than on being scummy.

An example of the latter point is how he asks to me why what I pointed out is a scumtell for Serela, in the second post, when I hadn't been talking about Serela meta. When I reply about it, he proceeds to say that I used meta on a previous game. But I don't always use meta, so why would it be scummy that I didn't use it in the first place? Seems like he's trying too hard to find reasons for his vote.

@Bardiche, please explain why what you've pointed out about me is scummy
also: I'm not disregarding Serela meta, I just don't know much of it. Feel free to comment on his meta, and I'll listen.


If Mitsuki thinks I'm "bothered", it's because SB's style of voting is pretty scummy. This blatantly states that if I am to present myself as Town, I should have an opinion on Serela or be "riled up" by them, even if I hardly ever pay overly much attention to Serela's antics outside of voting him for waffling.

Why didn't you say that at the time then, instead of just attacking SB? I don't get why you think SB's scummy but then say he's just wrong and not scummy, why did you say he was scummy in the first place then?
This further proves my point that Bardiche's been focused on attacking SB instead of focusing on giving his thoughts on the game.


I'll look up the Bard meta for Rawr when I have time to.

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I think Serela and him are equally scummy but I think my vote is better off here.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #103 on: April 07, 2015, 09:42:46 AM »
I don't have a strong scum read on Serela.  That is why I said I don't 100% believe Serela is scum. 

I have what amounts to somewhere between a policy lynch (lynch anybody who claims scum) and a general feeling that Serela's posts are noncontent backpedalling escapes from Mitsuki's fairly straightforward questions.  I'm not really sure how you're getting a strong justification out of anything I've said so far, but please do clarify. 
This feels contradictory.
Why is Mitsuki worth voting more than Serela given what you've said about having reasons to vote for Serela and saying that you're not serious about keeping your vote on Mitsuki?

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #104 on: April 07, 2015, 09:43:50 AM »
Also, I don't really get the argument against Bard. Whatever.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #105 on: April 07, 2015, 09:50:00 AM »
The vote count sucks. Can we get another one where people are voting for others?
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I don't like SB's case on Mitsuki at all, considering pretty much every line of questioning is going to be empty at this point in the game.
I also don't like Bardiche, but I don't think there's a flaw in his argument and also I always don't like Bard so I feel like I should ignore it.

Quote from: O4rfish 76
I was going to post a hypothesis tying together the scumteam, but then I realized some people haven't even entered the fray.
This sentence rings too many red alarms in quick succession.

Elieson has a good point. Ignoring NNR. I don't agree with SB that Mitsuki only having one read on a person who has no reads is "weird". Not interested in reading Refa but what little I did feels good for the day.

I did read the thread, but there was nothing that stuck out at me, so I was hoping to get a VC quickly so I could at least read the votes and go accordingly. I thought about voting on the quickwagon, but when I looked at it it was just O4rfish who's argument I has agreed with and SB who was third on the wagon is scum is never scum.

Not sure what people are trying to pin on sky.
"I don't have a strong scumread on Serela."
"Why are you even considering 'strong scumreads'?"
"Umm, I dunno, I just don't have a strong read."
"How would you determine the value of your votes on people if you consider your votes on these people as not coming from strong reads?"
Like, umm, what?

Dormio could you clearify what you're even trying to ask him? It just looks like bullhockey trying to trip him up.

Cut: :/
##Vote: Dormio

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #106 on: April 07, 2015, 09:50:24 AM »
I'm not voting Mitsuki, I'm voting Serela. 
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #107 on: April 07, 2015, 09:52:05 AM »
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #108 on: April 07, 2015, 10:00:36 AM »
Day 1.2 - Votals
Sky_Paladin (4) - Elieson, Dr Rawr, Serela, Dormio
Bardiche (2) - SB, Mitsuki
Dormio (2) - O4rfish, Zakeri
Elieson (1) - BT
Mitsuki (1) - Bardiche
NekoRex (1) - Refa
Serela (1) - Sky_Paladin
Zakeri (1) - NekoRex
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #109 on: April 07, 2015, 10:01:25 AM »
also the previous votecount was an hour off cuz I forgot to update my forum time for daylight savings, it's fixed now.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #110 on: April 07, 2015, 10:24:07 AM »
I explained this before. The more people elaborate on what they're commenting on the more likely I will be to get a read on them. I don't know what would make a townie or scummy response until I read it.

Yeah, but I don't see how you would ever get a town/scum read from that line of questioning (at least, during the RVS voting stage anyways)...whatever.  At this point, this just seems like a difference in opinion rather than something actually worth pursuing.

Serela implied his vote was serious here.

Serelaiously what is this, I don't even.  I can't even comprehend what she was thinking there.  Send help.

My vote on Serela was (and is) 100% serious.

Zvarri!  It is all becoming clear to me now.  Your initial vote was based off of a lack of understanding over scum intent (why didn't you ask Serela if her vote was serious before voting her?), yet you stuck to your vote anyways despite having no strong feelings towards their future posts.  I figured your initial vote could be a reaction test (which would explain you sticking to it despite initially weak reasons as well as technically taking into account his future posts even without analyzing them), hence the question...but then it wasn't.  So uh...yeah, it's pretty scummy how you held onto it for so long despite having no strong feelings towards her replies.  Maybe you didn't have a better vote at the time, but you did by this point.

The fact that he provided justification the way he did is what's scummy. He placed conviction on his vote, then in his later post (the one I cited), waffled on his read but not enough to indicate that he was serious about maintaining his vote. In fact, until he said 60% at the end, his context made it seem like he actually didn't want to keep his vote on Selrara

*p.edit

is Bard really this abrasive normally? I don't remember him being so kurt in our SF games. Seems a bit out of character to me

Oh, I misunderstood your point entirely.  Go me.  So he's not scummy because he overjustified himself, but because he waffled on a read that he earlier had conviction on despite no reason to do so (because town can waffle on their scumreads, but with no post from Serela, Sky's waffle doesn't make any sense)?  Just want to make sure that we're on the same page here, because that's pretty legit (would sheep tier).  While I've got your attention though, what are your thoughts on other players?  You haven't really talked about anyone besides Sky, and they're all becoming rather jealous of him!

He played similarly in Unnamed Mafia.

I honestly don't get why you people assume the worst and think I'm being a jerk.

Probably your avatar.  Looks like a jerk to me.

Zak is scummy because lurking is scummy. Popping in with the chance to give content and then stating you're not is scummy, he doesn't even bother to read the thread, The notion he'd have 'no idea what to do' is crap, plenty of other people are throwing votes down, he can just as well.

Lurking isn't scummy unless it's done for an extended period of time.  Obviously he read the thread considering his gutread on Mitsuki.  I agree that he could have done more at that point, but I'm not really bothered by that unless he continues to do so.

As far as refuge in audacity, I wouldn't know, as I don't analyze meta very much (as I tend to call it out anyway). If I was to say, it's that Zak generally has a habit of not contributing much anyway, and I'd rather be rid of a player who lurks all game sooner rather then later, regardless of alignment.

This point is really bad.  I can't see town being so apathetic to the lynch of a player for reasons that they know aren't alignment indicative.

The actual reasoning behind both Mitsuki's vote and the votes on Mitsuki seem well-placed, but I don't think they're particularly scummy.

You're missing the point (deliberately or not).  If Mitsuki's vote is perfectly fine to you, then there must be something wrong with the votes on her (even if they're not scummy).  You cannot actually be fine with both of them at the same time, that's...not how logic works.

I find Bard to be acting suspiciously tolerant.

Yknow what's scummy to me? Claiming scum, then disappearing! Everyone feel free to vote Dormio along with me.

You're joking, right?  People are complaining about Bard being too abrasive and you're saying that he's suspiciously tolerant.

Kind of assuming the same about your Dormio vote.  What bothers me more here is what that implies, namely that you don't really have any thoughts on the rest of the game.

Dormio could you clearify what you're even trying to ask him? It just looks like bullhockey trying to trip him up.

Cut: :/
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Please explain your reasoning here, because you uh...didn't.

Maybe I'm just biased because Bard's posting style is really entertaining, but I'm townreading him myself.  SB's reasoning on him was fine for the time (while I agreed with Bard's initial point on Mitsuki, it wasn't exactly enough for me to get a read on the dude himself), but his responses have been good (I react similarly when people scumread me) and he is actively pursuing his scumread.  More importantly perhaps is that the scumreads on him are either based on his meta (don't know) or his tone (don't care), so they're sheep unworthy.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #111 on: April 07, 2015, 10:26:00 AM »
Note how Dormio and Serelery both sort of claimed scum, and they're both voting Skypal. 
FWIW I think Skypal justified his vote, and he's stuck to it. I would point out that he is usually bad at explaining things to other people.

I wonder where BT is?

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #112 on: April 07, 2015, 10:46:17 AM »
I'm not voting Mitsuki, I'm voting Serela.
I can't read.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #113 on: April 07, 2015, 10:49:05 AM »
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #114 on: April 07, 2015, 10:55:06 AM »
 
Lurking isn't scummy unless it's done for an extended period of time.  Obviously he read the thread considering his gutread on Mitsuki.  I agree that he could have done more at that point, but I'm not really bothered by that unless he continues to do so.
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This point is really bad.  I can't see town being so apathetic to the lynch of a player for reasons that they know aren't alignment indicative.
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You're missing the point (deliberately or not).  If Mitsuki's vote is perfectly fine to you, then there must be something wrong with the votes on her (even if they're not scummy).  You cannot actually be fine with both of them at the same time, that's...not how logic works.
Is this hyperbole, because I can compass the idea of being fine with the reasons for votes in a short chain, as long as the votes weren't placed solely because of the other votes.
I would be fine with lynching a lurker, either active or passive, because MotK Mafia tends to reward lurking too often.


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You're joking, right?  People are complaining about Bard being too abrasive and you're saying that he's suspiciously tolerant.
Bard is always a mean jerk, but in this game he's letting things slide. Normally he operates like Phoenix Wright, doesn't he? Finds a contradiction, chases it down until he's revealed the person is scummy. A bloodhound maybe?
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #115 on: April 07, 2015, 11:00:48 AM »
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Note how Dormio and Serelery both sort of claimed scum, and they're both voting Skypal. 

Everybody keeps forgetting that I said why I was voting Serela when I voted Serela and keeps making up mysterious reasons for why I might be more/less serious about it than I should/shouldn't be. 

Here.

I'm still doing this. 
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I want to see what happens. 

I'm mainly concerned with Rawr's vote at the moment - Serela's is basically an OMGUS and we see that as pretty much standard Serela so it's not surprising or alignment indicative.  I'm less willing to dismiss Dormio's vote as bungling town, since he clearly wanted to vote me and then got the basis for it wrong, so I'll look forward to his correct explanation and vote. 

Rawr's vote gets me frowning because he tried to make it seem I was lining up lynches or restricting the lynch between Mitsuki and Serela, when this isn't the case at all, as the basis for his vote. 
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #116 on: April 07, 2015, 11:02:27 AM »
Is this hyperbole, because I can compass the idea of being fine with the reasons for votes in a short chain, as long as the votes weren't placed solely because of the other votes.
I would be fine with lynching a lurker, either active or passive, because MotK Mafia tends to reward lurking too often.

Bard is always a mean jerk, but in this game he's letting things slide. Normally he operates like Phoenix Wright, doesn't he? Finds a contradiction, chases it down until he's revealed the person is scummy. A bloodhound maybe?

The problem isn't that he's fine with the votes (that would be hypocritical of me), but that he's fine with the votes on Mitsuki AND Mitsuki's vote at the same time.

Fair enough regarding lynching a lurker, I guess.  Don't really agree with it myself (unless I'm reading every active player as town) and Dormio isn't even the lurkiest person playing (that would be BT...not counting Action Dan because I'm not sure he even knows that this game is a thing), but my problem is that you don't seem to have any reads on the actively playing players.

CCing Phoenix Wright.

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #117 on: April 07, 2015, 12:23:43 PM »
It's kind of mindboggling the amount of times I see people at least semi-seriously bringing up "serela claimed scumbuddies w/skypal and mitsuki for one sentence and then retracted it as obviously being completely unserious in the next sentence" as apparently an actual reason for them to continue voting me, does it seriously bother people that much? I mean literally claiming scum is mildly annoying but in this case it was obviously taken to the nth tier as I was going along with the unserious rvs pinned scumteam and went "yeah, no." immediately.

I don't actually remember if it was skypal and mitsuki but it's -so ridiculous this is being talked about so much- that I really don't even care who it was and it doesn't matter anywhere near enough to come near being worth bothering to check.

Anyway I'm leaving to eat breakfast and buy EMD or w/e `-`

re:SkyPal: Both your reasons are ridiculous (I maintain that I believe mitsuki's question was basically unanswerable to any significant degree and I just addressed the other) so I don't really see a reason to unvote.
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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #118 on: April 07, 2015, 12:27:22 PM »
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I don't actually remember if it was skypal and mitsuki

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Re: Volcanic Mafia 2015 - Day 1
« Reply #119 on: April 07, 2015, 12:31:43 PM »
Your initial vote was based off of a lack of understanding over scum intent (why didn't you ask Serela if her vote was serious before voting her?), yet you stuck to your vote anyways despite having no strong feelings towards their future posts.

I didn't ask Serela because it was pretty clear to me that he was serious. I don't have anything else to say about Serela because he's basically having 0 original reads and laying in the background, and I already talked about that.
Why are you saying I didn't have strong feelings towards Serela's new posts? Actually, what do you mean by that?

it's pretty scummy how you held onto it for so long despite having no strong feelings towards her replies.

The fact that Serela didn't do anything worth pointing out with regards to his recent posts doesn't mean that his earliest posts suddenly stopped being scummy.


I'm late already and I still haven't caught up with the thread. YAY