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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2015, 04:11:20 am »
This is incorrect, although the current text might be misleading when saying "the below" doesn't reflect the changes. Only the translation within that box was unaltered, since it was just copied verbatim from the original translation posted on gensokyo.org. The twitter clarification and 02/18 update (which were additions, not alterations) are in the two following sections, the latter clearly saying "summary of blog update".

Of course, if FSS knew what they were talking about at all they would be able to see this just by comparing the blog and the wiki.

We've had some consideration about a retranslation/tweaking, and I have my own rather minor qualms about how some things are worded, but for the most part the guidelines are accurate and I would rather not make hasty edits. An update of that caliber needs some structure and consensus. As hopefully people know by now, any ambiguity would be easily resolved by asking first instead of acting first.

I see. Then I suppose there's nothing good to be taken from this video at all.

Bah. This entire thing was supposed to be over already, with the whole "Nansei Doujin Spirit" thing or whatever. Why are they still going? What do they gain from this?

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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2015, 04:18:40 am »
No need for an apology.

Hi, but he was talking to *me.* I still remember you as the person who told people to actually go die. Please don't speak for me or put words in my mouth. Thank you.



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I just feel bad that you and I got into it when there was no need for us to to have been hostile, I am very sorry about my behavior during all of it towards you.


No harm done at all! :) You were definitely interesting to talk to/debate with, and I have no hard feelings. I hope you don't, either -- I apologize if I got intense sometimes and didn't keep my diplomacy face on.


Jeez I forgot the other reason I had posted again. So, I did have a few questions that maybe people could clarify for me that were brought up in the video. I apologize profusely if some of these are totally dumb; I *am* running on five hours of sleep and sometimes stuff goes over my head regardless. Even so, my ramblings, both questions and general statements:

Questions:
1) Was all of Ruw's information publicly accessible? Not that throwing it all out there is a good thing at all, but were they being crass or actually illicit?
2) So just for logistics' sake...ZUN is the same as Team Shanghai Alice, a one-man group, *but* there is a company called Kourindou that has more members than *just* TSA/ZUN, including the person FSS claims to have spoken to during this whole debacle and who generally monitors ZUN's copyright issues etc? Did I get this right? Is this claim legit? Just curious; no conspiracy theory involved.
3) *Were* there many changes to the threads made by MotK admins? I thought I noticed some of ShinesBright's posts vanishing, and if I recall from my old days of wanting to delete my art thread, members *can't* delete their own stuff. If there were changes/deletions, why? I didn't look at FSS's "original posts" file, because I have no idea if that is what the original threads looked like or whatever, but are those correct?
4) The part about ZUN's Japanese guidelines having a section that says they don't answer individual groups or circles concerns me, because doesn't ZUN say in another area to contact him with concerns about the guidelines? Why direct people to a blatantly stated dead end?
5) What *is* going on with that Chinese crowdfunded thing?

Ramblings:
1) I do think the moderators swearing at Saijee kinda gave a bad impression in general. Professionalism is nice. Although now it's kind of moot since shit has gone *bonkers* since last time I really tried to pay attention. Not that it didn't go bonkers a bit earlier. The fact that someone can post a screencap of an admin calling someone "shitheel" is...er...kinda poor form I think. >< If this forum is going to try to be a core of western fandom, some amount of professionalism under serious situations seems in order.
2) Posting a conversation from PMs after the other party tells you not to is bullshit and seriously lame. Choir preaching etc I know.
3) Man this video gets really UFO conspiracy theorist at about the halfway point. WTF.
4) People do in general get a bit trigger-happy when it comes to folks questioning ZUN. I'll agree with that one. Though that's more...random internet than here.
5) I winced every fucking time those folks showed people's usernames. Oy. Not that we don't know they have no shame, but man, they have no shame. ><
6) There *were* a bunch of contradictions in people's advice here. "Make a demo NOW." "YOU LOSER YOU MADE A DEMO INSTEAD OF DOING X, Y, AND Z." "Take a break, you're super stressed and losing it." "WHY HAVEN'T YOU ANSWERED US IN A DAY?!"  Though that waned into "good lord he really *isn't* listening" later, but earlier I honestly was...confused what anyone wanted.
7) They clearly don't understand even now that the "doujin guidelines" are not a rules document. No committee determines them. They're a cultural phenomenon. Jeez, we said this like a zillion times to them, I don't even.

Done. There we go. I need real sleep. XD
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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2015, 04:23:54 am »
I see. Then I suppose there's nothing good to be taken from this video at all.

Bah. This entire thing was supposed to be over already, with the whole "Nansei Doujin Spirit" thing or whatever. Why are they still going? What do they gain from this?
Even the name of the new "project" is an insult to the doujin community :|. I was willing to put simple ignorance on him at first but in reality he's just some messed up child who is throwing a temper tantrum he didn't get his way. Gaming culture would be better served without people like him.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2015, 04:28:57 am »
Hi, but he was talking to *me.* I still remember you as the person who told people to actually go die. Please don't speak for me or put words in my mouth. Thank you.

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« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2015, 04:41:27 am »
Even the name of the new "project" is an insult to the doujin community :|.

I am really surprised that name has stuck even this long. Wow. Yeah, it was clearly a snipe from the very beginning ><

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2015, 04:48:03 am »
What an incredible mess.

Hi, it's me again, Letty. I know I'm not supposed to be here, and I apologize for past grievances, but there are a few things that need to be said about this whole fiasco.

This entire project, from the ground-up, has been built on a platform of selfishness. It was never about making a cool thing for people to enjoy; it was about using something people enjoy as a stepping stone to notoriety. It was blatant from the start, and I feel bad for the people who put faith in this thing. I certainly won't blame you for having hope in it. I just wish people could have seen this coming.

The reason I'm even posting about this whole thing is because I actually have something of a personal stake in the matter. I am part of a small localization team subcontracted by Active Gaming Media, the company behind the Playism gaming portal and the current license holders of Touhou Project. I had a short discussion about this with a few members of their staff during a production meeting, and I knew it was a serious issue when they had to discuss the matter with their legal team.

What needs to be understood completely here by the general public and members of prospective doujin developers in the West is this event has actively made our jobs harder. The doujin community doesn't like crowdfunding their projects, because it not only goes against the spirit of fanworks, but it is also viewed as a financial investment/business transaction/preorder with an implied guarantee of a perfect product. On top of that, they certainly wouldn't accept preemptive revenue for an IP they don't even own. The Touhou Smash project basically spit all over the general ethics of doujin development and, in short, affected trust in Western markets, potential to significant degrees with some individuals. This isn't okay. A trust issue has been formed over this, and now, some small devs will want to have extra insurance in knowing that their IP and rights are protected. Team Shanghai Alice has the resources and connections to deal with this sort of thing. Random circle Milky Starfire might not.

Distancing itself from FSS and the entire project is the best thing that both MotK and the entire Western Touhou Community can do to essentially save face in the matter and reassure general devs that this was a fringe action. $20,000+ is a ton of money, and we have to collectively show that playing with that kind of fire is condemned by our communities.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2015, 04:50:47 am »


That's pretty much my reaction right there. You only had to listen Saijee, really.  :(

I still don't like them using the name Nansei; I'm a fan of LENK64's work and them using it feels insulting.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2015, 04:52:48 am »
I still hope for there to be a Touhou Smash, someday. I'd be willing to do it if I could.

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« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2015, 05:17:21 am »
I didn't watch the video; did I get a shout-out? :V

I still want to give them the benefit of the doubt that, at first, they were legitimately wanting to raise money simply to speed up the process, not to make a profit. I understand that crowdfunding comes off as risky and commercialistic, to say the least, but they had seemingly honest intentions at first and something to show which put them way ahead of most campaigns. Then they made $20,000 and let it go to their heads.

They're indefensible at this point, and their only salvation will be if they admit they screwed up and just walk away from the fiasco, lesson learned. Kinda implausible that will happen at this point though...

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« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2015, 05:57:16 am »
Questions:
1) Was all of Ruw's information publicly accessible? Not that throwing it all out there is a good thing at all, but were they being crass or actually illicit?
The information posted was WHOIS information, stuff that is generally available to the public, but doxxing is still doxxing. Internet detectiving someone to expose their personal information is gross and using it as a weapon is never justified.

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2) So just for logistics' sake...ZUN is the same as Team Shanghai Alice, a one-man group, *but* there is a company called Kourindou that has more members than *just* TSA/ZUN, including the person FSS claims to have spoken to during this whole debacle and who generally monitors ZUN's copyright issues etc? Did I get this right? Is this claim legit? Just curious; no conspiracy theory involved.
Dunno, I just know RuW was also involved in handling the White Canvas fiasco.

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3) *Were* there many changes to the threads made by MotK admins? I thought I noticed some of ShinesBright's posts vanishing, and if I recall from my old days of wanting to delete my art thread, members *can't* delete their own stuff. If there were changes/deletions, why? I didn't look at FSS's "original posts" file, because I have no idea if that is what the original threads looked like or whatever, but are those correct?
There is actually a 15 minute window where a post can be deleted by the person posting it IIRC. That being said we don't tend to remove or edit posts unless something particularly gross or mean is posted, and when we do a note is left either on the post or in the thread who did it and why. That being said Helepolis strongly asserts that not a single post was touched by staff in the 39 page guidelines discussion thread that was spawned by this mess. And he's willing to publish any and all PMs sent between him and Saijee/ShinesBright to keep the record straight.

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4) The part about ZUN's Japanese guidelines having a section that says they don't answer individual groups or circles concerns me, because doesn't ZUN say in another area to contact him with concerns about the guidelines? Why direct people to a blatantly stated dead end?
I doubt there's any malicious intent behind that guideline. I think what was really meant was that ZUN doesn't tend to answer questions made from individuals on touhou related matters but that if there's any sort of question of whether they might be violating the letter or the spirit of the guidelines they should get in touch with him.

He has a very strong belief that he wants to stay as hands off as possible from the touhou fanwork universe and not show any sort of bias or favoritism or official "blessing" towards any one project or circle. I imagine the intent of the first guideline was to relay that ZUN doesn't want to be consulted on how Touhou should be interpreted by others.

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5) What *is* going on with that Chinese crowdfunded thing?!
My understanding that it isn't as much crowd funding as it is getting people to vote for them to get the kit needed to develop on the PS4.

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1) I do think the moderators swearing at Saijee kinda gave a bad impression in general. Professionalism is nice. Although now it's kind of moot since shit has gone *bonkers* since last time I really tried to pay attention. Not that it didn't go bonkers a bit earlier. The fact that someone can post a screencap of an admin calling someone "shitheel" is...er...kinda poor form I think. >< If this forum is going to try to be a core of western fandom, some amount of professionalism under serious situations seems in order.
Eh I don't consider language as a sign of professionalism, but I do try to be polite and respectful of such. That being said not all staffers share that same opinion and I don't intend on regulating the speech of my minions as long as they're not intentionally degrading people.

I do try to be a bit more.. ahem... eloquent and not my usual weebtrash self when working in an official capacity. That being said I can't help the level of snark that comes out of my mouth sometimes :b


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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2015, 06:18:10 am »
Howdy, Paz here (one of the guys who wwas mentioned several time in the video)
Before anything, I would like to firstly apologize for any  of my actions that may have potentially increased the MoTK (I personally pronounce it as Motkei btw) forum's exposure as the highlight of the sh*tflinging video... considering I have done my fair share of sharing the old now locked MoTK thread over publicly on facebook back in the days the issue was still hot. I was also the one who publicised the whole twitter debacle and potentially was one of the person who started the negative sentiment regarding FSS to the public folks who aren't member of MoTK. His video today is a retaliatory action against the negative sentiments that I have partly contribute into... and since it put you guys under public scrutiny, my apologize for that

Anyhow, in the video Saijee mentioned how I broke a promise with him, while all I promise is that to stop sharing screenshots of HIS CONVERSATIONS if he agrees to check out MoTK and hang around to respond to people inquiry (when Doujin spirit was announced) thus that was the reason for why he shows up on MoTK one last time for the debacle... and I don't see how me posting about someone else posts who has been sh*tposting publicly on a Touhou page; would be a violation of this promise unless that person I reported was indeed a sockpuppet account of his.

I also was the one who redirected Shinebright to the MoTK forum after half an hour talking to her on FB while getting nowhee; I do aware she was but his cohort... but I naively believed that perhaps things could be made clearer to her with MoTK help... how wrong i was... part of me also redirected her here because I was kinda sick of wall of texts going nowhere and pass her off my hands to you guys... my lazy way out... sorry about that

Anyhow, the video features quite a bit of me... but instead of feeling attacked... I am in fact quite honored with my inclusion in this great movement of showing truth and honesty of the Western fandom raising voices against such uncondonable actions from saijee... while I can't speak for others who appear in that video (especially on the Japan side, poor Ruw); I can say that I am pretty happy and pleasant with the video, in a few hours I will head home and once again do what I can only do... posting this event publicly regarding 2 sides with my own personal 2 cents onto FB

Anyhow regardless, my apologies to anyone who wasn't pleased with this video; while I have played a part in help escahings to this point; and a thank you to everyone here who has helped exposing the nastiness of this whole debacle for our entire fandom
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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2015, 06:34:20 am »
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I do think the moderators swearing at Saijee kinda gave a bad impression in general. Professionalism is nice. Although now it's kind of moot since shit has gone *bonkers* since last time I really tried to pay attention. Not that it didn't go bonkers a bit earlier. The fact that someone can post a screencap of an admin calling someone "shitheel" is...er...kinda poor form I think. >< If this forum is going to try to be a core of western fandom, some amount of professionalism under serious situations seems in order.
I agree this was a little unprofessional. But I think it's worth pointing out that this behavior was the result of over 30 pages of patient assistance and explanations which were met with, in the best of cases, "Oh okay, I see. <goes post on YouTube like the conversation never took place>". The MotK staff is human and everyone has their breaking point. It may not be acceptable but it's certainly understandable, in my opinion at least.

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I don't see how me posting about someone else posts who has been sh*tposting publicly on a Touhou page; would be a violation of this promise unless that person I reported was indeed a sockpuppet account of his.
This is just my opinon, again, but it seems to me like you'd have to be ridiculously paranoid to make a fuss out of someone reposting PUBLIC posts. As far as I know you never posted anything privately discussed between you and Saijee, or anything we couldn't go and see for ourselves for that matter.

(For what it's worth isn't posting PMs in his video the same as posting the contents of an email on a message board? Why is it suddenly acceptable for them to do it when asking them to post the takedown email was constantly met with 'ogodlegalissues plz don't encriminate us'?)

Anyway. Paz, I think you did a good job trying to contain fires sprouting up beyond the scope of the forum, regardless of what happened with Shinebright or how it may have contributed to the latest video. At this point I think keeping people informed of both sides of the issue is more important than the opinion an obvious troll and a dev team suffering from a severe case of the crazies. =)

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2015, 07:34:38 am »
I agree this was a little unprofessional. But I think it's worth pointing out that this behavior was the result of over 30 pages of patient assistance and explanations which were met with, in the best of cases, "Oh okay, I see. <goes post on YouTube like the conversation never took place>". The MotK staff is human and everyone has their breaking point. It may not be acceptable but it's certainly understandable, in my opinion at least.

I totally agree. We were basically trying to reason with and explain things to someone who, quite frankly, didn't give a damn. So you can't blame people for losing their patience when this became a recurring problem.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2015, 08:12:34 am »
Let's take a moment and facepalm in unison.


First of all, I apologize if my participation in this matter ended up causing a problem, but at the moment I'm just worried on how to explain this situation to the Japanese community to minimize the damage done.
Most people I talked to already considered them as bad as White Canvas, and even marked them as "doujin goro"(cuc explained this term before) or in other words "scums" even before this. Now the situation became even worse.
Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2015, 08:21:17 am »
Honestly, I ran out of sympathy for Saijee and his group a few days after I posted in the discussion thread. This video just confirmed that I just don't care for "Nansei Doujin Spirit" or any FSS related material. I told him that now is not the time to be pointing fingers. Accusing Moogs of playing foul with the guidelines was just the last straw for me. He only viewed Danmaku!! in relation to Tabletop Simulator, (which was never the point of Danmaku!!, it was just a nice bonus that Moogs found) and the base argument that he tried to present against it can easily be defeated by the same logic that Touhoumon exists by.

By the way, I only got to watch over half of it before having to go to work, so I got to stew over that for ten hours. Thanks, Saijee. Consider FSS removed from my sub box. I was also going to look into that 3D shump thing they had too because I thought it looked interesting.

I just hope this doesn't drive a bigger stake between the east and west fandoms. Let's use this as a learning exercise, so hopefully this tragedy doesn't happen again.

(Note that I am not trying to speak for Moogs and he is free to correct me)

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2015, 08:22:21 am »
Dude randomly edited a sentence in a PM I sent him calling him a shitheel

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Super appreciate the pride avatar edit too 8)

I wish I had thought of making a dancing robot to rant at people whenever I got my shit pushed in online.  Stroke of genius!
See, this is one of the reasons why I said blurring out our true text then replacing it with his own is scheming and disturbing. Saijee's version makes it look like I too called Saijee a shitheel and that Edible is agreeing with me blindly. Except as Edible showed the true PM, he speaks from his own personal opinion.

Shows again how much of a scheming liar Saijee actually is.

Forcefully also editing the Wiki for Team Shanghai Alice http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Team_Shanghai_Alice&action=history   for his video.

I'll grab some breakfast first and then show you screenshots of the PMs between Saijee, Shade and Shines.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2015, 08:30:10 am »
Hey, I'm in the video! :D Several times, too! Across different platforms as well!

That said, just like the few other videos on the subject, his latest video seems to be yet another one-sided shit-slinging passive aggressive trainwreck of a video, no real surprise there. Also doxxing. New low, I guess.

Actually scratch the passive-aggressive part, he just flat out accuses people now.
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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2015, 09:22:33 am »
Urgh...
Can't this guy just give up and work on his nonsensical "doujin spirit" game ?

He was wrong and he was told so since his indiegogo launch. Since the campaign was removed, he acts like a whiny kid who doesn't understand why his shiny toy was taken away, blaming TSA and the people who agreed with them/thought the same.

I hope he sees the reality behind been a game developer soon.

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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2015, 09:34:54 am »
Disclaimer: Since my own PM's got published out in the blue including very suspicious editing and rewording, I am forced to disclose the true PMs myself.

Holy shit this took my a lot of effort to screenshot and order in chronological order. Because ShinesBright decided to actually send multiple PMs at some point. All given times are in GMT+1 (aka my local time in The Netherlands). I usually sleep between 0:00 ~ 7:30. Why I am telling you this? Because it is important to know for the chronological order.

While the discussion thread was still going on and Saijee started showing signs of ignorance
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I tried offering even personal assistance. You know, my personal time, all for the sake of help. For obvious reasons, the e-mail and skype ID has been censored out. I am not a dickhead to go reveal personal information, including my own.


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For some reason, Saijee was paranoid. My stance here was still helpful and aidful, because I believed he was being delusional.
Now I understand why he asked me not to delete anything. Just to forge this doxxing video of his.


Discussion thread ended, locked by me. Preparing the new guideline general thread
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I have monitored ShinesBright behaviour on youtube and facebook. I know who I am dealing with, and the multiple IP triggering from Saijee's Home IP made me really suspicious here. (Their university IP triggered too, but the home WAN IP is what made me really suspicious).

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I wrote this post in between. From again out of my own personal will and desire to explain. Of course, stating the truth: I echo'd the 34 pages thread. Logically, ShinesBright isn't here to listen to my opinion, just to seek out drama.

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Here is Saijee himself requesting to move on and drop the drama. I understand why now, afraid of getting more heat. Kind of late after like.... 25+ pages.

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A new PM again with different title in the middle of the night. Talk about impatience. Yes I did address her for being rude which is my right to do so, especially after her multiple PMs and deadline threatening.

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Another new PM with different title, apologising first but then spamming me with her same wall of text.

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Another new PM with another different title. Again she is hammering hard on her wall of text. She didn't read any of the 34 pages of course, because she doesn't need to. Saijee used her account as sockpuppet eventually anyway.

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Another new PM. I stopped responding after this PM. Never even approved her question whether it is ok to publish the PM.


So yea, according to Saijee and ShinesBright: I've been a very very rude mod, censoring things and deleting / editing posts/threads and not willing to answer questions or communicate.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2015, 09:49:59 am »
I'm frankly baffled that this is even still going on at all. Jesus, is it really that hard to just move on and make that passive-aggressively titled game?
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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2015, 09:57:38 am »
I'm frankly baffled that this is even still going on at all. Jesus, is it really that hard to just move on and make that passive-aggressively titled game?
Honestly, at this point, I'm seeing them like a child making a tantrum because he was scolded for making something bad, except this child is trying to destroy the room he is in as much as possible while being excessively stubborn about how he did nothing wrong.

I stopped caring at some point, though I was still impressed by everybody's patience here.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2015, 09:58:55 am »
Haven't seen video yet, concerned about him taking a post of mine out of context, wish I wasn't on mobile at the time (And now)

Personally, I think he feels he needs to make up an excuse, either to his fan base or maybe IGG.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2015, 09:59:10 am »
Is it alright for me to publicize this thread and the front page's newest article? Especially that new conversation that Heleo has just posted?
*I have asked around through pm for permission to post but there seems to be no respond so I am asking it again here, sorry =3= *
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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2015, 10:10:13 am »
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What an epic dumbass.  Can we purge his (and probably all of his cronies) existence from the place?  As in delete all threads he started and all posts he made.  This little f***** doesn't deserve the right to exist.

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2015, 10:15:33 am »
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What an epic dumbass.  Can we purge his (and probably all of his cronies) existence from the place?  As in delete all threads he started and all posts he made.  This little f***** doesn't deserve the right to exist.
That would be an epically bad move considering how it can be interpret as us destroying evidences... and also considering how all the archive on here work against him... not for him
Getting rid of 30 pages of evidences would be a really really bad move
*also, chill*
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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2015, 10:41:41 am »
There's value in keeping it. A lesson to a future dev or nostalgic gold :V

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2015, 11:05:57 am »
nostalgic gold :V
Years from now, we'll reminisce with high spirits and raised pinkies.

But in all seriousness, the 30+ pages incriminate him, it needs to be kept.
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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2015, 11:12:06 am »
I have monitored ShinesBright behaviour on youtube and facebook. I know who I am dealing with, and the multiple IP triggering from Saijee's Home IP made me really suspicious here. (Their university IP triggered too, but the home WAN IP is what made me really suspicious).

Were Saijee and ShinesBright the same person or something? I'm not too familiar with the term "sockpuppet account".

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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2015, 11:26:51 am »
Well she is not exactly a sockpuppet, but his close friend IRL
Doesn't know a nick about Touhou aside from just enough facts learnt hastily to enter the fray to support her friend and spam my page with ill-informed filths
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Re: On a certain fangame project by a certain developer
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2015, 11:37:05 am »
Shines might be a real individual, but from our moderation logs she never triggered an unique non-Uni WAN IP which didn't link to Saijee. I was expecting like 1 IP which was "ShinesBright home", but there was none. Therefore either she was physically posting from Saijee's home or Saijee hijacked her account and abused it for his own good. From the style change in the PMs I suspect the latter but don't ignore the former either. It is a huge mess.

Is it alright for me to publicize this thread and the front page's newest article? Especially that new conversation that Heleo has just posted?
*I have asked around through pm for permission to post but there seems to be no respond so I am asking it again here, sorry =3= *
My apologies, in between the PM publishing and working on my game your PM was not proper answered. I'll get to that right now while eating lunch.

Edit: Done.

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