I generally agree with Mitsuki's post where she
votes Bard."There is no real reason given as of why Sky's misrep would have scum intent" -
This post was not a misrep. It was an attempt to summarise your post as to why I felt it scummy. If you, Mitsuki, look at my post, and then check your post, please consider if what I said
strongly alters the content of your post. That is what I asked Bard to do
here and
here.
@BardPost"I don't need to explain why a Scumread appears Town."
Yes you do, because I am accusing you of Making Stuff Up as the basis for your vote. I do not see the pro-town spirit in the post of Mitsuki's that you apparently saw as gold.
I DEMAND an explanation, even more so as you saw fit to vote Mitsuki almost immediately afterward.
"Sky Paladin, how can you use "I have to keep finding reasons not to vote them" and "I think Raikaria is the easiest mislynch" in the same sentence? While you're busy explaining, care to add an explanation where exactly you stand on Raikaria, and what excuses you make to yourself to not vote him?"
Sure.
I've seen Raikaria do a whole bunch of dumb things this game, like an empty unvote that he STILL hasn't replaced, countervoting me because he thought I voted him, etc etc, but I also in my very first post did a dumb thing - I somehow thought Raikaria was voting for a different person than he was.
I find it hard to believe somebody could be this much of a train wreck by accident and there have been many alarming things that he has said including general confusion over how the drafting order works.
I honestly don't know if Raikaria is scum. I could see us lynching him today just to remove the confusion factor. Then I consider "If I am willing to delete a player just to make the puzzle easier, is that beneficial for town?" He's more than likely to be unroled so the net loss is minimal. But when I find myself making calculations on 'How much is this player worth to keep in the game?' I start to question if I am scum hunting or just pushing to kill off players that I dislike this game.
Also, partly meta. It seems like we lynch one of Raikaria/CF7/Serela/Sky every day 1. I've never seen Dr Rawr or Dan get lynched day 1, and Raikaria has posted heaps of content. I'd rather punish Dan and Rawr for their inactivity than punitively lynch Raikaria for forgetting how to play.
@Bard"Mitsuki's tacit defending of Sky Paladin is almost textbook chainsaw defending."
Isn't this exactly what you did when you voted me for my vote on Mitsuki?
"Focusing on merely one point (Sky Paladin's misrep) and claiming I'm "exaggerating about what [Sky Pal]'s done" conveniently ignores whether or not Sky Paladin's actions are town-minded"
Isn't this exactly what you did when you voted me for my vote on Mitsuki?
"His misrepresentation as "empty content post" is dishonest and scum minded, because his summary leaves out the content of the post and pretends it doesn't exist. "
I challenged you, twice, to provide an alternative view of said content to lend weight to your argument. You continue to fail to do so, subsequently, I am forced to conclude that no such alternative explanation exists, and you are fabricating.
"Focusing on discussing roles over discussing who's scum has the potential to draw in others; any discussion that isn't focused on finding scum is discussion that benefits scum by sheer virtue of distracting Town from its wincondition."
I didn't do this, as you yourself say in your justification for your vote on Raikaria,
In this post Sky unequivocally explains whoever got to pick first is extremely likely to have a (town) power role. You respond that scum are capable of picking town roles to deny them from town. Nothing in your post suggests that you have some misunderstanding over what Sky Paladin was talking about.
If you knew it was a lie, you shouldn't have used it as the basis for your vote on me.
Defending Sky Paladin on the basis that "he's always like this" purports that Sky Paladin is completely logical, sound and brilliant whenever he's scum.
I'm always completely logical, sound and brilliant. What's the value of this point?
Mitsuki didn't defend me. She made a case
against you. You should focus your efforts on disproving her points against you.
I do kind of agree with this though:
"I'm not convinced Raikaria developed dementia inbetween this game and the last game he played."
@EverybodyIt looks like half the game was confused on what that list Sky posted was for.
Holy wow.
Guys.
My list was
complaining that the draft order was revealed. Nothing more. It wasn't rolespec or rolefishing or whatever, it was just...this hurt town, why did you do this?
I'm gonna leave it there while I read page 4.
