So how is UFO's reception?

[stargroup]

WAT

don't tell me that train spell card from stage 2 wasn't taken out

that's the worst spell card in all of touhou history

also the spell cards from the first three stages better have changed in some way. those were all horrible

[?q]

WAT

don't tell me that train spell card from stage 2 wasn't taken out

that's the worst spell card in all of touhou history

also the spell cards from the first three stages better have changed in some way. those were all horrible

Nope and nope, everything's the same.

It's not the worst spell card in history, but it definitely makes you think about how to approach it.  And if not that, it makes you panic and bomb it so you can get the obligatory Stage 2 Spell Failure out of the way.

[Azinth]

Actually, I think Kogasa's second boss card and Ichirin's midboss nonspell might have been toned down a bit.  Which is kinda hilarious since there wasn't really anything wrong with them to begin with.

[stargroup]

you guys are idiots

there's EVERYTHING wrong with the first three stages

everything

also regardless of what anyone says the train card is still the worst card in history. it's not about how you go about dodging it, it's that it's simply stupid and makes no sense, and zun didn't put enough effort into that card at all

[Nine West]

you guys are idiots

there's EVERYTHING wrong with the first three stages

everything

also regardless of what anyone says the train card is still the worst card in history. it's not about how you go about dodging it, it's that it's simply stupid and makes no sense, and zun didn't put enough effort into that card at all

Umm... no. Just... no.

I mean, Kogasa's train might be hard enough, but...

[Slaves]

you guys are idiots

there's EVERYTHING wrong with the first three stages

everything

also regardless of what anyone says the train card is still the worst card in history. it's not about how you go about dodging it, it's that it's simply stupid and makes no sense, and zun didn't put enough effort into that card at all

okay.



anyway

stage 4 is pretty easy now that i've done it a bagillion times. still trying to perfect stage 5 though. those ying yang orbs are mean

[Arcengal]

I like UFO. There's parts of it I don't like; my biggest peeve thus far is that the UFOs are designed to be chained in a way that give you a ton of bonuses, but if you miss one UFO (or collect them out of order) then you lose a lot. It's almost as unforgiving as MoF's faith system.

I'm also beginning to think that Ex-Kogasa isn't complete bullshit, which contrasts to massive ragequits a couple of days ago.

[nintendonut888]

you guys are idiots

there's EVERYTHING wrong with the first three stages

everything

also regardless of what anyone says the train card is still the worst card in history. it's not about how you go about dodging it, it's that it's simply stupid and makes no sense, and zun didn't put enough effort into that card at all

I think the train spell card is an awesome concept. It's just...there's too many things going on at once. It's certainly got cool points though. Also, if you hate it so much, just don't play UFO.

So now that I have a new computer AFTER 8 YEARS (still need to hook it up though), I can finally play this game in all its glory.

[Suikama]

I have a new computer

Oh shit.

I wait in anticipation for a slew of Lunatic 1CC replays from you :V

[stargroup]

the train card makes no sense conceptually and mathematically

why does no one understand this

do I have to spell it out for all of you?

it's like talking to brick walls

ok maybe foam walls you guys aren't that bad

[Tarquinius]

you guys are idiots
there's EVERYTHING wrong with the first three stages
everything
also regardless of what anyone says the train card is still the worst card in history. it's not about how you go about dodging it, it's that it's simply stupid and makes no sense, and zun didn't put enough effort into that card at all

Admittedly, I only play on normal difficulty, but I have no problem with the train card. The only hard cards in the first three stages are Kogasa's rain card if the bullets spawn right on top of you and Ichirin's laser eyes card.
On topic, UFO is my current favourite if the series due to the music and the bullet patterns, although I haven't gotten past Shou yet. I have to admit, I'm not overly fond of the UFO systems - dense bullet patterns in stages 4 and 5 make UFOs hard to get, and rainbow UFOs never seem to be the colour you want when you're in the right position to pick them up. I am getting more used to it, though.

[Affinity]

If it didn't make mathematical sense, it wouldn't be there in the first place. 

what wit and vigor.

[Gpop]

He only played the demo.

He never played the full version yet.

I don't consider him a troll, but I think he's bashing out on the game way too much.

[Arcengal]

Okay, so you don't like Carnival Train. That's fine, I don't like Yugi's third non-card and think it's almost unavoidable BS.

Use a bomb and move on.

Oh, and Khornate dude: Just because someone has a complaint about a game doesn't mean that they're bad at it. I was world #1 at Ninja Gaiden Black for a couple of months but still complained about the Chapter 13 boss fight.

[stargroup]

wow guys way to use personal attacks and logical fallacies

though I will admit I was a bit of an ass, but that's just the way I talk when I'm pissed off

but my point still stands. carnival train is the worst card conceptually in all of touhou

game's definitely not too hard though, I've cleared all the extra stages and I've 1cc'ed MoF lunatic, so it's not like I suck at the game

[Sen]

WAT

don't tell me that train spell card from stage 2 wasn't taken out

that's the worst spell card in all of touhou history

also the spell cards from the first three stages better have changed in some way. those were all horrible

Are you playing on Normal?

Stay at the bottom of the screen for the whole spellcard, you'll be amazed how much easier it gets :V

[GreenJR]

Sadly I find Kogasa's first spellcard to be the hardest and the train card is harder on easy than on Hard. All of her others are cakewalk unless the difficulty is hard or higher.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

I've actually captured The Train Spellcard (legitimately) a few times on Normal. It's a matter of, well, not particularly minding if you're particularly below Kogasa, I suppose.

[Tengukami]

wow guys way to use personal attacks and logical fallacies

though I will admit I was a bit of an ass, but that's just the way I talk when I'm pissed off

but my point still stands. carnival train is the worst card conceptually in all of touhou

game's definitely not too hard though, I've cleared all the extra stages and I've 1cc'ed MoF lunatic, so it's not like I suck at the game

Why don't you try explaining how Carnival Train "makes no sense conceptually and mathematically" whatever that means, instead of just saying that that's how it is and we're all drooling idiots for not understanding this? That's how you come across as a troll - unsupported blanket statements that seem to be aimed at getting a reaction.

If it's not too much trouble, of course.

[Zengar Zombolt]

Stay at the bottom of the screen for the whole spellcard, you'll be amazed how much easier it gets :V

That must explain why I always have to deathbomb it while doing the EXACT OPPOSITE.
Yeah. I always try to shotgun this one.

[Letty Whiterock]

wow guys way to use personal attacks and logical fallacies

though I will admit I was a bit of an ass, but that's just the way I talk when I'm pissed off

but my point still stands. carnival train is the worst card conceptually in all of touhou

game's definitely not too hard though, I've cleared all the extra stages and I've 1cc'ed MoF lunatic, so it's not like I suck at the game

Hey, jerkface. If you want to yell at people, at least use punctuation and capitalization. Carry on.

[shadowbringer]

WAT

don't tell me that train spell card from stage 2 wasn't taken out

that's the worst spell card in all of touhou history

also the spell cards from the first three stages better have changed in some way. those were all horrible

as mentioned before (for Normal, at least), staying at the bottom of the screen will save you lots of work; you just have to acknowledge when Kogasa fires her aimed bullet streams, and then check if there are amulets coming from above and micrododge them, or unfocus and then dodge them (in case you want to lure the aimed streams fired by Kogasa herself); avoid the corners.

[Hawk]

So how is UFO's reception?

A bit fuzzy, but tuning the dials just right clears that up.

:V http://instantrimshot.com/ :V


Anyway, Train card is bad, but only because it's harder on Easy than it is on Normal.  Once you figure it out, though, Easy, Normal, and Hard all follow the same basic pattern that can be dodged the same way.  I can't speak for Lunatic.

I love everything about UFO except that you can't love it too much or it crashes.

[LHCling]

I can't speak for Lunatic.

Same thing really. Just a lot more micrododging / reading extremely dense waves of amulets.

History of 1/35 (possibly more fails overall) speaks for itself.

[BoLaD]

you guys are idiots

there's EVERYTHING wrong with the first three stages

everything

also regardless of what anyone says the train card is still the worst card in history. it's not about how you go about dodging it, it's that it's simply stupid and makes no sense, and zun didn't put enough effort into that card at all

I think the train spell card is an awesome concept. It's just...there's too many things going on at once. It's certainly got cool points though. Also, if you hate it so much, just don't play UFO.

So now that I have a new computer AFTER 8 YEARS (still need to hook it up though), I can finally play this game in all its glory.

Wow... I've met a guy that had to wait longer than myself to get a new computer. It took me 7 years to get a new computer and it was really just something my dad picked up off the street.
Anyway, I find UFO to be quite enjoyable-brutal, but fun. My biggest complaint is stage 5- take that out/improve it and game is 100% perfect.

[Suikama]

So how is UFO's reception?

A bit fuzzy, but tuning the dials just right clears that up.

http://instantcrickets.com/

[Benny1]

Okay hi I deleted a lot of trollfeeding and trolling.

stargroup: Please let us know better what you mean if you're going to say something is the worst card in touhou.  We still don't really understand how it makes no sense mathematically (Actually if a train was going in that direction it's rather likely that it would shoot bullets in the direction it is moving like they do in this game)

Slaves: Don't feed trolls

William Wordslayer, Champion of Khorne : Don't feed trolls.

Anyways, Kogasa is an irritating boss.  Her first boss spellcard is overly difficult and can really screw you over, and her second spellcard is utterly ridiculous.  I like having bullets spawned on me, or very very close to me!

[nintendonut888]

Ironically, after playing said "worst spell card ever" like 10 times after all this, I've suddenly fallen in love and I think it's an amazing spell card (didn't manage to capture it though)

Kogasa's first is evil, but I'm seeing that it's micromemorizable. The problem is just what IS this path to take? I've gotten within five seconds of capturing it though.

And her second is surprisingly easy. It rarely walls you and as long as you have your wits about you you can just micrododge in the center and end it in about 15 seconds.

EDIT: Also I just realized: Nue has broken the extra boss tradition of having her portrait in her spell card background! UNFORGIVABLE.

[Zengar Zombolt]

EDIT: Also I just realized: Nue has broken the extra boss tradition of having her portrait in her spell card background! UNFORGIVABLE.

Or, it may be the product of the Seed of the Unknown, and it IS her true true form.
Lol interpretations

[Sen]

Ironically, after playing said "worst spell card ever" like 10 times after all this, I've suddenly fallen in love and I think it's an amazing spell card (didn't manage to capture it though)

Kogasa's first is evil, but I'm seeing that it's micromemorizable. The problem is just what IS this path to take? I've gotten within five seconds of capturing it though.

And her second is surprisingly easy. It rarely walls you and as long as you have your wits about you you can just micrododge in the center and end it in about 15 seconds.

EDIT: Also I just realized: Nue has broken the extra boss tradition of having her portrait in her spell card background! UNFORGIVABLE.

Well Ran didn't have her portrait either D:

Also for Kogasa's first card, it's much easier if you're using any of the A-characters, since their shots all go in front of you. What I do with MarisaA:
-When Kogasa starts the card, she summons four parasol bullets. Destroy all of them and move to the right.
-She should move in front of you. At this point just follow her location and shoot the parasols that get in your way, don't bother with anything else.

I find it easier to dodge the large blue bullets than the parasols, but maybe that's just me.