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The reason I dislike both sides of the equation is that they don't actually have a reason to dis/like everything about the group; on one end, you have people who only watch the PVs (and usually not even many of them), and decide that IoSYS is the most amazing thing ever because of their kawaii voices and flashing pictures.
Now this in itself is odd, because they don't have all cutesy stuff and they probably haven't even listened to most of their stuff. They do have a few other genres, it's just usually filled with dog whistle voices and thus grouped as the same. This bugs me because the songs they choose to put into a PV become the most popular because they're catchy, regardless of them being good or not. That's what attracts people, and I applaud the circle for being able to market their music in such a ridiculously explosive way. But when you actually hear the entire albums, most of it sucks very badly.
Of course, you can go with the "lol musical preferences are objective", and go ahead, the only reason I say they suck is because I think so and others are entitles to their opinions, but even still, you can't believe that many people, if any, are going to like most of the stuff in there. Even if they have a few varieties of styles in the circle, it's still mostly targeted towards the same audience, and so it narrows the field of objective selection and it becomes easier and easier to brand the tracks as 'bad'.
People aren't going to like much of it, that's true, but to call IoSYS great for coming out with a few good tracks and many mediocre ones doesn't make them a good circle, and I feel that the attention they get is a bit undeserving as opposed to some groups who consistently put out good music. Hell, even Neutral, because it has so many artists, isn't going to appeal to everyone with every album.
On the other hand, the haters are much simpler to describe. there could be many different reasons why they don't like IoSYS, but most consist of them just plain not liking the music and thinking they don't deserve their attention. While I fit into this group, it's still unfair because of what I previously mentioned; how people are still going to like their music and the popularity from their PVs are going to send fans in droves. You could go even further and just outright say that they don't like IoSYS because they're trying to be cool kids and agree with the majority, which is just plain silly.
In both cases, most of them haven't actually listened to many tracks, or albums at all. The cutesy stuff that attracts some people push away others, but dislike can be exaggerated much easier than fandom can. The bounds are about the same, from just insulting anyone who thinks they're good, versus not knowing what Touhou is at all and labeling all arranges as IoSYS. Hate just comes to people easily as a species, there's no avoiding the ones who just outright hate the group.
The last little bit is just about the ones who don't necessarily hate IoSYS, although they do go hand in hand, but the ones who find that IoSYS attracts weeaboos and idiots from Gaia and other deadly stupid nether-regions of the internet. While this kind of hatred isn't mostly centered on IoSYS, people somehow find a method to insult the group itself instead of what should be, the fans' utter stupidity and negligence.
Now, I can't say this stuff isn't well-deserved, because I think so, and calling someone else out for a comment that you yourself can't argue whatsoever or at least very little is generally a terrible thing to do. Of course, this goes both ways as it's pretty stupid to march into somewhere flooded with blind fans and say IoSYS sucks, because regardless of being able to argue well, you're going to get bombarded with hate, and stupid hate, at that. Once again, it's really just a matter of both sides knowing when to yield, but unfortunately, the weeaboo side as a whole won't stop, ever, and there are always a few haters who are just too stubborn to let it go.
Actually, this reminds me of another stupid argument. A few think that when two sides are fighting it out and such, it's a good idea to try and break it up. Now not only is that stupid and will never work, they decide to slap in a "we should all just take it easy". Noting that you used such a phrase to try and break up the argument, you obviously don't have any material yourself, and are likely going to be sucked in as well. The addition of a meme is never a good idea, especially when attempting to calm the blaze.
fine then jeez
