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How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« on: August 12, 2009, 10:33:26 PM »
The other day I read here that touhou has parodies on nearly everything and hardly any make a parody on touhou. Which I think is strange cause I was just watching this anime and a girl was playing touhou in it (with perfect UI match and stuff) which I think was kinda funny. It does seem that touhou is pretty well known for it to be featured in a show (How many times have you seen a reference in a show to some real popular big selling titels?).

If you wanna see it here is the link: http://www.animeseason.com/ef-a-tale-of-memories-episode-1/ at about 7:50 into the video. She kinda fails hard on an easy spellcard tough!

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2009, 10:35:52 PM »
Because Touhou isn't mainstream, it will never be as popular as it could be. Still, it's about as famous as you can be without being really popular.
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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2009, 11:43:05 PM »
Has to be called one of the Internets best kept secrets that hides in plain view.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 11:54:13 PM »
she uses the mouse to play touhou?

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 12:14:54 AM »
she uses the mouse to play touhou?

She uses the mouth mouse to move, obviously!

That is strange.
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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 01:16:42 AM »
Heh, I like how her current score is several hundred thousand, while the high score is over 5 billion.

Also replacing the IN logo with the ef logo was a cute touch.

I don't think ef itself was exactly mainstream; it was based on a dating sim.  But given the size of Touhou fandom in Japan in recent years, the chance that some of its viewership would recognize a Touhou reference may be pretty high.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 03:11:15 AM »
Asking a Japanese guy what Touhou is is about the same as asking an American guy what WoW is.

More or less.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2009, 03:48:33 AM »
I would go as far as to say it's the most popular indie game ever, but I really don't know.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2009, 03:51:57 AM »
I recall an anon saying Japan is Touhou. I never doubted it.

3 different cons just for Touhou alone, and you wonder how popular it is.
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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 04:10:15 AM »
but when u look at the many diff. cons they haf for other stuff... but still, three cons just for touhou and u get the pic.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 05:51:35 AM »
There's more than three cons for Touhou. I've been to two in the Tokyo area alone outside of Reitaisai and I'm sure they're in other regions of Japan out west and up north too.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2009, 06:04:12 AM »
but when u look at the many diff. cons they haf for other stuff... but still, three cons just for touhou and u get the pic.


I thought you should know Natsuki and the Kigurumi bunch invades Reitaisai every single year since 2004, and every other con, according to him, there are Touhou sections in each and every one of them, and that ain't no joke.


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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2009, 06:17:45 AM »
http://www.animeseason.com/ef-a-tale-of-memories-episode-1/ at about 7:50 into the video. She kinda fails hard on an easy spellcard tough!

Is it me, or is she playing as Hong "China" Meiling?

EDIT: And who is she fighting?  Near as I can tell, I would call that Ichirin Kumoi.  Not sure if the character with the spell card matches anyone else more specifically.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 06:40:23 AM »
http://www.animeseason.com/ef-a-tale-of-memories-episode-1/ at about 7:50 into the video. She kinda fails hard on an easy spellcard tough!

Is it me, or is she playing as Hong "China" Meiling?

EDIT: And who is she fighting?  Near as I can tell, I would call that Ichirin Kumoi.  Not sure if the character with the spell card matches anyone else more specifically.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Without looking at the video, she's playing as Akira Kogami and fighting Konata Izumi, both from Lucky Star.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2009, 12:00:13 PM »
The background kinda looks like stage 4 from TH 8: IN

Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2009, 09:37:47 PM »
Asking a Japanese guy what Touhou is is about the same as asking an American guy what WoW is.

Reading this statement actually scared me a little in terms of "WHOA"-ness.
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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2009, 09:52:03 PM »
That's pretty much it, though. Not on every scale, but on terms of this question, yes.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2009, 01:17:34 AM »
Asking a Japanese guy what Touhou is is about the same as asking an American guy what WoW is.

That's awesome.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2009, 02:32:44 AM »
3 different cons just for Touhou alone, and you wonder how popular it is.
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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2009, 05:45:49 AM »
True, but I'm referring to completely different conventions, not iterations of the same one.

Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2009, 05:50:58 AM »
I wouldn't say WoW, actually. The proportion of "normal" people to geeks in WoW is actually surprisingly high, whereas the Touhou fanbase in Japan, as far as I can make out from Nico Nico Douga, is pretty much 95% geeks.

Probably more accurate to say it's like D&D, in that a lot of people know what it is, a lot of people have grave misconceptions about what it is, and the number of fans is big but not THAT huge.

I'm pretty sure that if you tell the average Japanese person you're a Touhou fan, the odds are about:

50% - they won't know what you're talking about,
40% - they'll assume you are a deranged potential serial rapist and pedophile who has a 100-strong collection of hump pillows,
7% - they will actually have a more balanced view (and may be an otaku themselves),
3% - they're a Touhou fan too.

Of course the numbers are a bit different if you only consider guys.

I'd guess that at least half of Japanese otaku/geeks, and an infinitesimal proportion of nongeeks, are interested enough in Touhou to be considered at least borderline fans. That makes about 4 million people, roughly speaking (ballpark figure), going by NRI survey data (which places the otaku population at 1.7 million as of 2005) and extrapolating via educated guesswork for borderline otaku, liars, and growth since 2005. This sounds like a shitload of people, and explains the crowds at Reitaisai etc.

However, the population of Japan is 127 million. 4 out of 127 is not a lot.

Data from http://www.nri.co.jp/english/news/2005/051006.html (disclaimer: I have no idea whether these figures are pulled out of their collective asses).

edit: the 7% didn't linebreak properly. bleh.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2009, 06:17:20 AM »
The geeks vs normal people is actually what I was referring to when I meant "not on every scale".

In terms of popularity, what we got was pretty much the same.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2009, 06:37:59 AM »
The geeks vs normal people is actually what I was referring to when I meant "not on every scale".

In terms of popularity, what we got was pretty much the same.

Yeah, it did sound like that was what you meant, but my gut feeling was that not everybody caught that.

Just trying to put things in perspective.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2009, 07:25:47 PM »
Definitely the most popular independent game series of all-time. I hear that Comiket has it's own Touhou section for fan doujinshi and manga. There are multiple fan games of Touhou itself made in Japan. ZUN's a pretty lucky guy.

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Re: How popular is Touhou in Japan?
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2009, 11:25:35 PM »
I so want to go on a drinking party with ZUN. and get over to Japan for Comiket and Reitaisei

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