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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2013, 06:45:50 PM »
Aaaaand Lunatic 1cc.

I'll just say holy fucking crap. The Lunatic in this game  is absolutely bonkers insane. This is way, way harder than UFO Lunatic ever hoped to be.
This is not Lunatic. This is Ultra.

And it's glorious.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2013, 06:47:29 PM »
Nice! I believed that you'll be one of the first players who manage to do it.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2013, 06:50:59 PM »
Already? A Lunatic 1CC already? Wow... that was fast. when will it be up on Youtube?

I knew it would be within 24 hours... but this was a tad bit faster than I was expecting. I am loving the new characters we got, especially our new Extra Stage Boss... DRUMS OF THUNDER!
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2013, 06:52:17 PM »
Aaaaand Lunatic 1cc.

I'll just say holy fucking crap. The Lunatic in this game  is absolutely bonkers insane. This is way, way harder than UFO Lunatic ever hoped to be.
This is not Lunatic. This is Ultra.

And it's glorious.
>way harder than UFO Lunatic
oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2013, 06:57:13 PM »
Damn the bullet density in Baben's non spells are insane. Seija and her stupid screen flipping. I love this game.

10/10 I died on Sekuna's second or third spell (lost track). The huge bullets the hearts, THE HEARTS.

EDIT: There seems to be a translation patch already.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 06:59:32 PM by InfiniteWave »

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2013, 07:00:27 PM »
You know, I think as far as I know,
Spoiler:
Seija
might be the only boss who breaks the western comparisions.
Spoiler:
WIth Benben, she is a biwa tsukumogami, biwa being similar to lute. Yatshuhashi is koto tsukumogami which has some western counterpart instruments like the finnish kantele. Susuna is a dwarf, so nothing to say here. Raiko is a (Taiko) drum tsukumogami, no nothing to say here either.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2013, 07:02:39 PM »
Apparently, there's an Attack on Titan reference?
« Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 07:05:00 PM by Savory »

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2013, 07:08:13 PM »
Aaaaand Lunatic 1cc.

I'll just say holy fucking crap. The Lunatic in this game  is absolutely bonkers insane. This is way, way harder than UFO Lunatic ever hoped to be.
This is not Lunatic. This is Ultra.

And it's glorious.
I knew the glorious Jaimers would complete DDC on Lunatic. Will you upload it to YT?
Easy Modo? That's for kids, and for me.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2013, 07:10:05 PM »
Well, my first impression is disappointment. Patterns are too chaotic, control-reversing and hitbox-enlarging gimmicks sound like very bad ideas for a danmaku game. I'm not really willing to pick this up anymore. But hey, I might just need to take some time to warm up to this game. Who knows.

I thought the same after playing a little. Coudn't help but think "just die already" on the whole 5th boss.
Maybe I played the demo too much and based my expectations from it.

The stage 4 was perfect imo, maybe I'll like the extra too.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2013, 07:11:26 PM »
Apparently, there's an Attack on Titan reference?
Final boss card 5 translates roughly to
Spoiler:
Attack on Dwarf.  Since, y'know, she's a Dwarf.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2013, 07:12:59 PM »
Who doesn't hate Stage 5 bosses.

Now we have to wait for NDNB runs in NicoNico, pacifist runs and the Ultra Modo.
Easy Modo? That's for kids, and for me.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2013, 07:16:37 PM »
Seija's left/right inversion is easy to adjust to, but up/down is just insane. Specially when the transition happens while she's shooting. I just can't get past her on Normal. I don't even wanna think about Hard.

Gods, its like playing Dark Souls again. It's glorious.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2013, 07:17:24 PM »
Aaaaand Lunatic 1cc.

I'll just say holy fucking crap. The Lunatic in this game  is absolutely bonkers insane. This is way, way harder than UFO Lunatic ever hoped to be.
This is not Lunatic. This is Ultra.

And it's glorious.

Oh my god what the hell. I've never been more intimidated by Lunatic before.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2013, 07:20:16 PM »
Seija's left/right inversion is easy to adjust to, but up/down is just insane. Specially when the transition happens while she's shooting. I just can't get past her on Normal. I don't even wanna think about Hard.

Gods, its like playing Dark Souls again. It's glorious.

It isn't sooo hard, the hardest one is the upside down that she flips the screen while shooting, in this one you can just keep yourself very close from the stream when the screen is normal and walk away from it while grazing it, when the screen starts to flip, hold the focus button and just keep pressing the button to walk away from the red shoots.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2013, 07:21:22 PM »
Oh yeah, all those who were hoping the mirror youkai thing to happen?
Spoiler:
Seija's second set of spellcards refer to mirrors.The Easy-Normal is called Reverse Sign "Danmaku of the Mirror Land" and the Hard-Lunatic is called Reverse Sign "Evil in the Mirror"

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #75 on: August 12, 2013, 07:23:11 PM »
Oh yeah, all those who were hoping the mirror youkai thing to happen?
Spoiler:
Seija's second set of spellcards refer to mirrors.The Easy-Normal is called Reverse Sign "Danmaku of the Mirror Land" and the Hard-Lunatic is called Reverse Sign "Evil in the Mirror"

Spoiler:
The first spellcard name reminds me the Alice in the Wonderland story :P
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #76 on: August 12, 2013, 07:41:45 PM »
EDIT: There seems to be a translation patch already.

Is it the same auto-updating patch or a new one?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #77 on: August 12, 2013, 07:48:27 PM »
Man, everything I want has to come out the same time! Farewell sleep, I hardly knew thee.

Hmmm, how's the difficulty on normal/hard? Would you say it's in the upper tier as the lunatic appears to be?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #78 on: August 12, 2013, 07:53:03 PM »
Man, everything I want has to come out the same time! Farewell sleep, I hardly knew thee.

Hmmm, how's the difficulty on normal/hard? Would you say it's in the upper tier as the lunatic appears to be?

For me the normal is easier than UFO or SA since you can get a lot of lifes using the POC.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #79 on: August 12, 2013, 07:53:52 PM »
Normal - SA lunatic/UFO hard
Hard - SA ultra/UFO lunatic
Runatiku - UFO ultra lunatic/impossibru (except for Jaimers)

But POC abuse lowers it a lot.
Easy Modo? That's for kids, and for me.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #80 on: August 12, 2013, 07:59:39 PM »
So, DDC is the first windows game where stage 6 midboss doesn't say a single word before attacking (well, except of UFO for obvious reason).

And yeah, good Lunatic run :) Looking forward for Extra one.

Normal - SA lunatic/UFO hard
Hard - SA ultra/UFO lunatic
Runatiku - UFO ultra lunatic/impossibru (except for Jaimers)

Isn't it too much overestimated? I still have a hope to 1cc on Normal. It didn't look that much difficult.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2013, 08:02:38 PM by Vectorfish »
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #81 on: August 12, 2013, 08:01:23 PM »
Y'know, on closer look things seem way too interesting to pass up. But I'm still worried about those gimmick cards. How bad are they, the control-switching and hitbox-enlarging ones, especially on higher difficulties?

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #82 on: August 12, 2013, 08:04:51 PM »
Normal 1cc and extra mode clear, both on my first try (though I did see the release streams last night so it's not really a blind run). Ooh man this game looks like it's going to be hell. HELL. And I will love it.

...Just as soon as the vsync patch is made and this input lag goes away. ;;
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #83 on: August 12, 2013, 08:05:11 PM »
Is it the same auto-updating patch or a new one?

Yeah it's that updating one that's a pain to setup. But I don't think it's complete. Maybe I patched the trial version by accident. I'll try it again.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #84 on: August 12, 2013, 08:06:21 PM »
Y'know, on closer look things seem way too interesting to pass up. But I'm still worried about those gimmick cards. How bad are they, the control-switching and hitbox-enlarging ones, especially on higher difficulties?
Impossible.

I can't do Stage 5.

I'm spamming stage/spell practice with stages 4 and 6 though.

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2013, 08:21:05 PM »
...Just as soon as the vsync patch is made and this input lag goes away. ;;
You should be able to disable vsync yourself without a patch.

Spoiler:
A somewhat underhanded workaround for the stage 5 boss would be to remap the controls when she uses a spell, but you didn't hear that from me.

I haven't played the game, but I'll guess that people are overstating the difficulty. I don't think anyone here has played the game enough to have a good understanding of it.

Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #86 on: August 12, 2013, 08:27:09 PM »
Spoiler:
A somewhat underhanded workaround for the stage 5 boss would be to remap the controls when she uses a spell, but you didn't hear that from me.
I think
Spoiler:
GPU drivers usually contain tweaking applications which support this kind of screen manipulations.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2013, 08:28:40 PM »
Y'know, on closer look things seem way too interesting to pass up. But I'm still worried about those gimmick cards. How bad are they, the control-switching and hitbox-enlarging ones, especially on higher difficulties?
The enlarging one isn't particularly difficult, nor is the first control switching one. The second one is trickier, but the last card is hell, because the screen turns as she's shooting. It's very easy to lose yourself during the transition. I just bomb everytime the screen begins to shift.
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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2013, 08:35:31 PM »
The enlarging one isn't particularly difficult, nor is the first control switching one. The second one is trickier, but the last card is hell, because the screen turns as she's shooting. It's very easy to lose yourself during the transition. I just bomb everytime the screen begins to shift.

The first two that do the control switch are doable with a bit of concentration. The last one, not so much. It's on my "Just Bomb It" list. :V

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Re: Touhou 14 - 東方輝針城 ~ Double Dealing Character released!
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2013, 08:41:43 PM »
Alternatively, just play Super Hexagon and you will be prepared.