Author Topic: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 04: Surprise  (Read 70294 times)

UncertainJakutten

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2013, 08:44:28 PM »
>Was the camera on a tripod?
>If so, did the tripod fall in any way?


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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #61 on: April 23, 2013, 08:53:09 PM »
>Did something fall on the man?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #62 on: April 23, 2013, 09:23:14 PM »
Was the camera at ground level?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2013, 03:27:03 AM »
Where the men ab-normal (Like aliens)?
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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2013, 03:52:29 AM »
> Was the death accidental?
> Was the man posing when he died?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2013, 03:55:56 AM »
> Did the dead man hold the camera in his hands?

> Did the man operating the camera back himself into a situation that lead either directly or indirectly to his death?

> More generally, did movement by the man operating the camera lead directly or indirectly to his death?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2013, 04:04:22 AM »
No. I will give a hint though: "fall" is certainly not a wrong idea

>Was the picture taker the one who died?
>Was the man taking a picture of himself?
>Were the friends doing anything illegal?
>Does the workplace have heavy/industrial machinery or power tools?


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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2013, 05:44:27 AM »
> Is the number of pictures taken relevant?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #68 on: April 24, 2013, 03:22:18 PM »
>Did the men work at a lighthouse or another similarly tall building?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2013, 08:48:24 PM »
>Was the camera on a tripod?
No

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>If so, did the tripod fall in any way?
And that means No here as well, as no tripod was involved

>Did something fall on the man?
No

Was the camera at ground level?
It was not lying on the ground, if you mean that. No

Where the men ab-normal (Like aliens)?
No. They were, for all intents and purposes, perfectly normal humans.

> Was the death accidental?
Yes

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> Was the man posing when he died?
A very good question! One that I shall answer with Yes.

> Did the dead man hold the camera in his hands?
No

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> Did the man operating the camera back himself into a situation that lead either directly or indirectly to his death?
No

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> More generally, did movement by the man operating the camera lead directly or indirectly to his death?
No

>Was the picture taker the one who died?
No

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>Was the man taking a picture of himself?
No

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>Were the friends doing anything illegal?
No. What the three friends did was not violating any laws.

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>Does the workplace have heavy/industrial machinery or power tools?
No. The workplace is not of an industrial nature and does not hold power tools

> Is the number of pictures taken relevant?
No. However I will say that until the time of death the camera had been used to take several pictures

>Did the men work at a lighthouse or another similarly tall building?
No. The heigth of the building is unknown.

There've been some good questions, and you are doing pretty well. Don't worry if you don't have any good ideas yet, this one is pretty tricky. It may be useful to summarize what you know so far, so as to confirm that there have been no misunderstandings.

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #70 on: April 24, 2013, 09:11:38 PM »
>Was the death immediate?

>Had the deceased's friends paid full attention to him when it counted (assuming such a moment / timeframe exists), would they have been able to save him?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 09:16:00 PM by BT »

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2013, 09:12:19 PM »
So let me run through what we know.

Three dudes, at work, taking pictures of each other.  At some point, a picture was taken of this man, presumably in some position; he then died.  He did not die by falling to his death, nor by having the camera fall on him.

> Did he lose his balance while posing and fall onto or into a dangerous object or space?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2013, 09:20:22 PM »
>Was the death immediate?
Yes

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>Could the death have been avoided if the friends had paid full attention to the deceased?
Hmmm... I will say No

Three dudes, at work, taking pictures of each other.  At some point, a picture was taken of this man, presumably in some position; he then died.  He did not die by falling to his death, nor by having the camera fall on him.
Indeed, all of this is absolutely correct.

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> Did he lose his balance while posing
In a very broad sense: Yes

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and fall onto or into a dangerous object or space?
I will have to say No here

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2013, 09:22:58 PM »
>Was the cause of death physical trauma? (I don't remember if this was answered already.)

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2013, 09:36:51 PM »
> Was assuming or holding the pose what proved fatal?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2013, 09:56:59 PM »
>Was the cause of the death related to ingestion or inhalation of a dangerous object/gas?
>Did the man that died accidentally activated a device (In the work space) that was the cause of his death?
>Did anyone else touched/manipulated anything in the work space (Excluding any doors they had to come through)?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 10:00:30 PM by Berzul »

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #76 on: April 24, 2013, 10:01:12 PM »
>Did the man die at the workplace?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2013, 09:02:15 PM »
>Was the cause of death physical trauma? (I don't remember if this was answered already.)
I swear I'm never sure what exactly is included in "physical trauma"? I *think* my answer here should  be Yes though.

> Was assuming or holding the pose what proved fatal?
You could say that I guess, Yes. The pose was definitely important to the death.

>Was the cause of the death related to ingestion or inhalation of a dangerous object/gas?
No

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>Did the man that died accidentally activated a device (In the work space) that was the cause of his death?
Yes. As was answered before there were no power tools or machinery, but there was certainly a *device* of sorts.

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>Did anyone else touched/manipulated anything in the work space (Excluding any doors they had to come through)?
No

>Did the man die at the workplace?
Yes

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2013, 09:20:53 PM »
It's basically "was the death due to some part of the body getting hit by a strong physical force", I guess? For example, electrocution isn't included but falling off of a cliff is, as is getting hit in the head by a baseball bat.

>Is the pose what activated the device?
>Is the device lifeless?
>Is the activation method something like turning a switch on or off, pushing a button etcetera?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2013, 01:06:01 AM »
Take this blue truth! The man was having a picture taken of him. He worked in a police station. He was posing with himself holding a gun. By accident, he slipped. During this process, somehow the gun's barrel pointed at the man, and it accidentally went off. He was shot to death.

If that's somehow correct I demand a medal :V
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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2013, 01:10:19 AM »
> Was the workplace an office building?

> Did the intended pose involve having both feet on the ground? (As opposed to jumping in the air, standing on one leg, etc.)

> Is the particular pose a key element of the case?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2013, 02:16:32 PM »
It's basically "was the death due to some part of the body getting hit by a strong physical force", I guess? For example, electrocution isn't included but falling off of a cliff is, as is getting hit in the head by a baseball bat.
Ah okay, thanks for explaining. Yeah, this one is physical trauma then.

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>Is the pose what activated the device?
In the sense that if the man hadn't posed as he did at all, the device would not have activated and the accident would not have happened: Yes

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>Is the device lifeless?
Yes

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>Is the activation method something like turning a switch on or off, pushing a button etcetera?
Generally Yes.

Take this blue truth! The man was having a picture taken of him. He worked in a police station. He was posing with himself holding a gun. By accident, he slipped. During this process, somehow the gun's barrel pointed at the man, and it accidentally went off. He was shot to death.

If that's somehow correct I demand a medal :V
False, no medals for you. However, the general idea about what kind of sequence of events it was, is not incorrect!

> Was the workplace an office building?
No

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> Did the intended pose involve having both feet on the ground? (As opposed to jumping in the air, standing on one leg, etc.)
Yes, the intended pose did not involve his feet being in the air at any point.

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> Is the particular pose a key element of the case?
As far as the general circumstances of the posing go, Yes.

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2013, 02:29:26 PM »
Did the pose involve reaching for the sky?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2013, 05:11:05 PM »
Is the device small enough to be held by hand?

Is the device durable enough to be standed on?

Does the shape of the device resemble a cube?

Is the device composed of metal?

Is blood spilled when the man died?
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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2013, 06:16:37 PM »
My my my, what an interesting thread! I adore those kind of games.

>Did the reason for taking the picture involve showing off the device in question?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2013, 06:33:19 PM »
Holy crap This thread is back  :o
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>Did the dead man had any physical contact with whatever the device that killed him?
>Did he do the Saturday Night Fever pose?
>Would he have died if there was only 2 people instead of 3?

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2013, 07:16:13 PM »
> Did the intended pose involve the man having either of his hands above his head?

> Is the workplace inside a building?

> Is it a government workplace? (i.e. post office, police station, fire department, school, courthouse, military base, any building owned or operated by a government institution as well as national parks and other similarly outdoor government work. And yes, I know post office is debatable.)
« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 08:51:39 PM by capt. h »

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2013, 09:01:03 PM »
Did the pose involve reaching for the sky?
No

Is the device small enough to be held by hand?
No

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Is the device durable enough to be standed on?
Yes

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Does the shape of the device resemble a cube?
Not really, I'd say. No

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Is the device composed of metal?
While there may be small metal parts, generally No

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Is blood spilled when the man died?
No

>Did the reason for taking the picture involve showing off the device in question?
Oh man you're asking a hard one. I hope this won't mislead, but I will say Yes.

>Did the dead man had any physical contact with whatever the device that killed him?
Yes

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>Did he do the Saturday Night Fever pose?
... Maybe? :V As far as this case is concerned, No

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>Would he have died if there was only 2 people instead of 3?
Most likely, Yes

> Did the intended pose involve the man having either of his hands above his head?
Unknown. The position of his hands is Irrelevant to the case. For all we know he may have been throwing gang signs and the result would have been the same

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> Is the workplace inside a building?
From my knowledge this kind of workplace can exist both inside and outside a building. Which one is the case in this incident is Unknown.

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> Is it a government workplace? (i.e. post office, police station, fire department, school, courthouse, military base, any building owned or operated by a government institution as well as national parks and other similarly outdoor government work. And yes, I know post office is debatable.)
Yes

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2013, 09:05:32 PM »
Sooo he died immediately, from a physical injury, without spilling blood. And it's not freefall. I feel like I'm playing an AA game. *_*

>Did he make physical contact with the device or was it the other way around?
>Were there multiple instances of contact or was it immediate death at the first (and only) time?

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>Would you commonly find this device in someone's house?
« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 09:10:34 PM by BT »

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Re: Black Stories 2013 ~ Case 02: Fun at Work
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2013, 09:15:20 PM »
Is a dunk tank involved?

Or a gallows?

Or if not gallows, a guillotine?
« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 09:20:43 PM by capt. h »