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東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« on: May 05, 2019, 09:22:37 am »
This thread is currently for the Wily Beast and Weakest Creature trial version. (When the full version is released, these scores will be moved to the trial thread.)

Rules:
- Only submit scores achieved without continues.
- At most 5% slowdown allowed.
- Including a replay is highly recommended. 1st place submissions without a replay will not be added to the scoreboards.

Please post your scores in this format:

Difficulty - Character-Beast
Name - Score - Stage - Slowdown - Replay

Example:
Hard - Youmu-Wolf
Player113 - 123,456,780 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

Please use Trial-C to indicate trial clears!



Easy
-Reimu-Wolf-
 1.
 
-Reimu-Otter-
 1. Crested         - 167,377,690 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Kurzov          - 23,567,800  - 3       - 0.0% - Replay

-Reimu-Eagle-
 1. Jimmy           - 112,476,240 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Kurzov          - 11,497,760  - 3       - 0.0% - Replay

-Marisa-Wolf-
 1.

-Marisa-Otter-
 1.

-Marisa-Eagle-
 1.

-Youmu-Wolf-
 1.

-Youmu-Otter-
 1.

-Youmu-Eagle-
 1. Aeteas          - 297,005,540 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay


Normal
-Reimu-Wolf-
 1.

-Reimu-Otter-
 1. Crested         - 199,276,040 - 3       - 0.0% - Replay
 2. KirbyComment    - 181,359,670 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. Mikuru          - 163,961,650 - Trial-C - 0.2% - Replay
 4. Jimmy           - 134,407,280 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay
 5. Karisa          - 130,395,430 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Reimu-Eagle-
 1. Mikuru          - 105,814,390 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

-Marisa-Wolf-
 1.

-Marisa-Otter-
 1. Mikuru          - 199,861,290 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

-Marisa-Eagle-
 1.

-Youmu-Wolf-
 1.

-Youmu-Otter-
 1.

-Youmu-Eagle-
 1.


Hard
-Reimu-Wolf-
 1. Mikuru          - 136,184,570 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay
 2. Nth             -  78,594,990 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Reimu-Otter-
 1. Mikuru          - 212,608,020 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay
 2. Nth             - 100,044,300 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Reimu-Eagle-
 1. Nth             -  75,311,430 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Marisa-Wolf-
 1. Nth             - 102,713,490 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Marisa-Otter-
 1. Mikuru          - 190,587,080 - Trial-C - 0.2% - Replay
 2. Nth             - 144,304,390 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Marisa-Eagle-
 1. Nth             -  77,952,240 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Youmu-Wolf-
 1. Nth             -  66,942,510 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Youmu-Otter-
 1. Nth             -  63,694,910 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

-Youmu-Eagle-
 1. Nth             -  58,387,610 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay


Lunatic
-Reimu-Wolf-
 1.

-Reimu-Otter-
 1. KirbyComment    - 302,896,460 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

-Reimu-Eagle-
 1.

-Marisa-Wolf-
 1.

-Marisa-Otter-
 1.

-Marisa-Eagle-
 1.

-Youmu-Wolf-
 1.

-Youmu-Otter-
 1.

-Youmu-Eagle-
 1.

« Last Edit: June 18, 2019, 07:17:18 pm by KirbyComment »
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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 10:36:07 am »
Normal - Reimu-Otter
Karisa - 130,395,430 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Experimental scorerun. Only stage 1 and early stage 2 were routed (and I haven't learned the stage 3 boss yet so it was full of bombing, yes I know I bomb-spammed a stage 3 Normal boss). Also not sure if I know all the mechanics yet-- in particular, I haven't found any function for graze.

Some random notes:
- Any 5 beast items will give a hyper; 3 of a wolf/otter/eagle gives a special hyper. (3+ of anything else doesn't seem to have any special effect.)
- 4 or 5 of a wolf/otter/eagle increases the hyper's duration. The hyper matching your beast subweapon is powered up, and also has increased duration I think?
- Shooting enemies during any hyper (including a generic hyper with no 3-of-a-kind) gives PIV.
- Canceled bullets give PIV if from finishing a spell, or from otter hyper, but not from bombing.
- If a 1up/bomb/power/point beast item is used for a hyper, the actual item(s) will spawn at the end of the hyper. If one is collected mid-hyper, the item(s) will spawn immediately.
- 1up/bomb beast items only give a single life/bomb part, regardless of whether the hyper was a success or failure.
- If a beast item is collected mid-hyper, some hyper duration is restored. (Not sure if this is actually useful compared to waiting out the hyper for the 2 free beast items. It does let you not worry about needing to match another 3-of-a-kind, at least?)
- Dying gives you 2 beast items of the type matching your subweapon. Unlike normal beast items, the death-generated beast items don't change color over time. (This is why I chose otter, so that I could route in deaths for more otter hypers later.)
- The 2 beast items (or 5 if a special midboss beast item was part of the hyper) dropped after timing out a hyper seem to start at a random color. The set of 5 varies by midboss:
    - midboss 1 (squid item, don't kill any spirits that spawn during the midboss): 1 life part, 4 normal beasts
    - midboss 2 (cow item, stay close to the midboss??): 1 life part, 1 bomb part, 3 normal beasts
    - midboss 3 (chick in egg item, defeat using an otter hyper): 1 life part, 2 bomb parts, power, point
« Last Edit: May 05, 2019, 11:54:19 am by Karisa »
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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 12:12:32 pm »
Easy - Reimu-Eagle
Kurzov - 11,497,760 - 3 - 0.0% - Replay

Easy - Reimu-Otter
Kurzov - 23,567,800 - 3 - 0.0% - Replay

Hurrah! New trial time!
1CCs: None in a full game, although I got a one credit clear on EoSD easy, but it was invalidated because of the insane lag that I had on that run. I have also 1CC'd the HSiFS trial.

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 01:10:34 pm »
Easy - Reimu-Otter
Crested - 133,737,220 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay attached to post

I swear the scoring's more about dodging items than dodging bullets.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2019, 01:22:03 pm by CrestedPeak9 »
Hard 1cc: LLS, EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC
Lunatic 1cc: EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, TD, DDC, LoLK, HSiFS
Easy Perfect: EoSD, MoF, TD, HSiFS
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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2019, 06:56:04 pm »
Lunatic - Reimu-Otter
KirbyComment - 302,896,460 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

Normal - Reimu-Otter
KirbyComment - 181,359,670 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Thoughts on the game: It has a neat mechanic. If you can get past the really bad bullet/background blending colors that are present in some parts, it's an alright survival-game. Scoring is looking very bad though.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2019, 08:28:08 pm by KirbyComment »
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SoEW Lunatic ReimuA - 42,942,800 (WR)  - Replay
PoDD Lunatic Mima - 128,591,460 - Replay
LLS Easy ReimuA - 71,657,220 (WR) - Replay
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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2019, 09:02:09 am »
Easy - Reimu-Otter
Crested - 157,653,630 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay attached to post

Like in HSiFS, at max power all power items act like point items; I don't think it's worth suiciding for extra tokens in a 3-stage scorerun, though routes will likely want to be more PiV focused when the full game comes out.
Also I bring 14 tokens into the Stage 3 boss fight, and avoiding all of them while trying to stay a set distance away from the boss is quite painful. At least we're using Reimu, I can't even begin to imagine using other shottypes.
Hard 1cc: LLS, EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC
Lunatic 1cc: EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, TD, DDC, LoLK, HSiFS
Easy Perfect: EoSD, MoF, TD, HSiFS
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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 02:18:43 pm »
Normal - Reimu-Otter
Crested - 199,276,040 - 3 - 0.0% - Replay attached to post

Insanely unoptimal due to a ton of token collection mistakes and dying several times.
Hard 1cc: LLS, EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC
Lunatic 1cc: EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, TD, DDC, LoLK, HSiFS
Easy Perfect: EoSD, MoF, TD, HSiFS
Working on WNSP Normal NMNB for a video project.

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2019, 07:50:30 pm »
Normal - Reimu-Otter
Jimmy - 134,407,280 - 0.0% - Trial-C - Replay
Normal 1cc: EoSD, PCB, IN, PoFV, MoF, UFO, TD, DDC, LoLK Legacy, HSiFS
Hard 1cc: IN, DDC, HSiFS
Extra clears: MoF, DDC, HSiFS

Goals: Going Extra Hard!

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2019, 07:36:16 am »
Easy - Reimu-Otter
Crested - 167,377,690 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay attached to post

Apart from an Eagle pickup in stage 1 and an accidental otter hyper in stage 3, I don't know how much further I can push the score with this route.
I might be completely wrong in going for 5-Otter hypers, but until the royalflare scoreboards are up I won't know.
Hard 1cc: LLS, EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, DDC
Lunatic 1cc: EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, TD, DDC, LoLK, HSiFS
Easy Perfect: EoSD, MoF, TD, HSiFS
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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2019, 04:23:14 pm »
Easy - Reimu-Eagle
Jimmy - 112,476,240 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay
Normal 1cc: EoSD, PCB, IN, PoFV, MoF, UFO, TD, DDC, LoLK Legacy, HSiFS
Hard 1cc: IN, DDC, HSiFS
Extra clears: MoF, DDC, HSiFS

Goals: Going Extra Hard!

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2019, 08:20:39 am »
Easy - Youmu-Eagle
Aeteas - 297,005,540 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

The replay doesn't seem to work when I start from stage 1, though it does work if I start from stage 2 or stage 3. I've attached an additional replay that just shows stage 1 in case anyone wants to know what my route was. The run itself is probably the cleanest run I've done so far in this game. There are some minor mistakes, but there's always something going wrong when scoring this game, and usually worse things happen.

My main takeaway from scoring easy is that you shouldn't underestimate how much PIV you get just from shooting with an otter or non-special hyper. It does depend on what character you're using and what power level you're at, however. Youmu-Eagle's unfocused shot deals a lot of damage and gets a lot of PIV if all of her option shots are hitting, so she seems pretty good on easy and normal even without the longer otter hypers. Youmu-Wolf and Youmu-Otter, in comparison, don't really get much PIV from shooting. Another thing to know is that Youmu's eagle hyper gives a lot of PIV if you pointblank, so it's a bit better than otter in some cases but harder to use. Other than YoumuE, MarisaO seems pretty good for scoring too, though she's not that good at killing stage enemies.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2019, 08:22:26 am by Aeteas »

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2019, 11:05:18 pm »
Got my first 100m, may as well post. This game is pretty fun to play but looks a nightmare to score.

Normal - Reimu-Eagle
Mikuru - 105,814,390 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2019, 06:07:37 pm »
Easy - Youmu-Eagle
Aeteas - 297,005,540 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

The replay doesn't seem to work when I start from stage 1, though it does work if I start from stage 2 or stage 3. I've attached an additional replay that just shows stage 1 in case anyone wants to know what my route was. The run itself is probably the cleanest run I've done so far in this game. There are some minor mistakes, but there's always something going wrong when scoring this game, and usually worse things happen.

My main takeaway from scoring easy is that you shouldn't underestimate how much PIV you get just from shooting with an otter or non-special hyper. It does depend on what character you're using and what power level you're at, however. Youmu-Eagle's unfocused shot deals a lot of damage and gets a lot of PIV if all of her option shots are hitting, so she seems pretty good on easy and normal even without the longer otter hypers. Youmu-Wolf and Youmu-Otter, in comparison, don't really get much PIV from shooting. Another thing to know is that Youmu's eagle hyper gives a lot of PIV if you pointblank, so it's a bit better than otter in some cases but harder to use. Other than YoumuE, MarisaO seems pretty good for scoring too, though she's not that good at killing stage enemies.
Not a big fan of how this game’s scoring has been turning out so far (so far I have 292m in Lunatic with MarisaOtter that I don’t feel like improving), but this is an interesting development. Have you tried experimenting with YoumuEagle in Normal yet?

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2019, 12:48:57 am »
I guess I'll start the Hard difficulty.

Hard - Reimu-Wolf
Nth - 78,594,990 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Reimu-Otter
Nth - 100,044,300 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Reimu-Eagle
Nth - 75,311,430 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Marisa-Wolf
Nth - 102,713,490 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Marisa-Otter
Nth - 144,304,390 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Marisa-Eagle
Nth - 77,952,240 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Youmu-Wolf
Nth - 66,942,510 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Youmu-Otter
Nth - 63,694,910 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Hard - Youmu-Eagle
Nth - 58,387,610 - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 12:51:21 am by niektory »
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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2019, 11:55:33 pm »
A couple more scores.

Normal - Marisa-Otter
Mikuru - 145,976,900 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

Hard - Reimu-Wold
Mikuru - 89,558,300 - Trial-C - 0.2% - Replay

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2019, 04:52:04 pm »
Some mistakes towards the end hurt the score, but this was my first Normal No-Miss so I'm pleased with the result!

Normal - Reimu-Otter
Mikuru - 148,892,680 - Trial-C - 0.4% - Replay


Also, broke the 100m barrier on Hard:

Hard - Reimu-Otter
Mikuru - 125,941,220 - Trial-C - 0.2% -


Hard - Reimu-Otter
Mikuru - 163,687,820 - Trial-C - 1.2% - Replay


New score! Sadly lost the Stage 3 midboss item to an unexpected hyper so that what I intended as a bomb cancelled it, but still a pretty decent attempt.

Hard - Marisa-Otter
Mikuru - 168,017,510 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay
« Last Edit: June 06, 2019, 10:36:26 pm by Mikuru »

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2019, 10:39:44 pm »
Finally broke the 200m barrier, after coming close with two 190s :)

(These scores obsolete all the ones in the post above.)

Normal - Reimu-Otter
Mikuru - 163,961,650 - Trial-C - 0.2% - Replay

Hard - Reimu-Otter
Mikuru - 212,608,020 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

Hard - Marisa-Otter
Mikuru - 190,587,080 - Trial-C - 0.2% - Replay

Mikuru

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Re: 東方鬼形獣 ~ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2019, 10:59:36 pm »
More scores!

Normal - Marisa-Otter
Mikuru - 199,861,290 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay

Hard - Reimu-Wolf
Mikuru - 136,184,570 - Trial-C - 0.1% - Replay
 

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