But I gave a reason why that's something that should be taken seriously. I made it clear I don't think nothing should be taken seriously.
Yes. Alright. But I don't think you've been reading our replies very well if you're still talking about the same damn subject you have been for the past three pages.
What I'm talking about is getting too upset over doujin stuff and having this idea of "inferior fans". This attitude in of itself, I think is something people need to be serious about, because any community I've seen that's been "Laid back" about people acting like this falls apart.
No. This is false. Just because a community is laid-back about arrogant attitudes doesn't mean it will fall to shit. It can, but it can also fall to shit if you're doing what you're doing right now and taking everything in like it's your life's mission to resolve everyone's problems.
It's elitism, and elitism only grows while ignored. It doesn't really have to either, it doesn't happen to everyone fandom or community, just near on most.
Spoilers: Touhou has had an elitist fanbase for a long time. This is why we're all separated into those groups I talked about. Because there's so many interpretations, this is going to happen. There's no avoiding it.
I'm really upset with some of the replies. I only meant well by the post and if it was too much drama for you, you didn't have to reply.
I hate attitudes like this. "You don't have to reply if you don't like it lol". You're being a hypocrite right now, talking about how we need to take this seriously yet are fine with people ignoring you for being too laid-back about it. I for one am damn pleased with the responses from this thread and I don't think it could have gotten much better than what he got. Unfortunately, your consistent arguing is making it an annoyance.
I wish people would realise it's the snide, one line replies that make things crappy. People seem to presume that because a post is long, it must be nonsense. Which is nonsense.
You're nonsense. Yeah, you see what I did there? A one-liner. I don't think anyone presumes that because a post is long it's nonsense. In fact, most long posts are anything but and everybody realizes it. It's just a pain to read when you say the same thing over and over again that could be condensed into something shorter. Yeah, a big paragraph can contain more information than a short one, but just because it can, doesn't mean it does. A short post can be nonsense, and long posts can be nonsense.
I'd prefer to hang out with the "fanon" types even though I've made fun of them, cringed at some of the WAIFU type threads here, and laughed at some jokes directed at them, if they're at least nice.
Good for you. Once again, you're treating the sections of people as an entire entity rather than individuals. You yourself have your likes, and other people have theirs. Just because two people like the same thing doesn't mean they have much in common at all. It also doesn't necessarily mean that they're "nice". I actually like a few of Walfas' comics, but it doesn't mean that I like the rest of them, or him as a person, or any of his fans. I hate most of his fans to pieces. "Nice" people can be found anywhere, but just because they're part of a group doesn't mean they're "nice" people or "mean" people.
This is an example of a "wrong" reply.
No, it's an example of you don't want to see in your thread. He's right; talking about problems can definitely lead into more disastrous situations than if you left it alone.
Actually, it is good to discuss problems. You're just using poor social standards and poor examples to back up your case. This is how adults actually do things believe it or not. I think people are starting to become massive dicks for no good reasons. I explained why. This is a good way of doing things. Yours is not.
Jesus Christ now you're just telling him he's immature because you don't think the way he does. This is not how adults do things. This is how
some people do things. Some adults do, some "non-adults" do, you do, hell, I do. Socials standards are poor. People suck. Not everyone's going to have the same attitude, which is
what you're trying to say in the first place.If you genuinely don't feel like you're getting enough attention, then yes you should bring that up. Or if someone's girlfriend is driving you apart, then there are times when you should bring that up. It's a kind of cost/benefit analysis. If it's going to cause more harm than good, then it might be a bad idea.
So in other words you're half-contradicting your previous statement and saying that "ok maybe sometimes it's a bad thing so you're kind of right".
But threads like this don't need to drive people apart like "Oh your girlfriend is causing troubles for us...". So the point isn't really relevant at all.
No, it isn't, but he was using the example to counter your argument, of which you entirely avoided and instead just labeled it "wrong".
You can't solve any problem if you don't talk about it, and reach some kind of solution or consensus. Sometimes with problems all you have to do IS talk about it, if people are people dicks, then sometimes someone just needs to point out it. But then people get arrogant and defensive and say how much it doesn't matter, that it's DRAMA, etc., these are defense mechanisms.
They're as much of a defense mechanism as you're putting up to our statements. People don't like to be wrong. If you try to prove them wrong, they'll argue. Yes, in some cases, problems are solved by actions. Problems can also solve themselves if ignored and there are just problems that
don't need solving.I'm not even going to bother with the last one, it's full of holes.
I don't think you realize that your attitude towards this is making people dislike you. If not anyone else, at least me. Yes, you think that this is a serious problem. Many of us think it's a serious problem. But it happens, and no one cares enough to do anything about it. For the love of god, shut up already.
