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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2011, 07:41:18 AM »
If my memory serves me correctly, density and gravity are no where near the same thing.

ZUN seems to treat them as the same thing, like how Sakuya can manipulate space due to her time powers. If it works like that in-universe, physics is irrelevant =D

I'd actually like another character who has no real ability. Kinda like Marisa [Depends if you class magic as an ability in Gensokyo]

Alice and Patchouli also have "magic" as their ability, they just specialise in automancy and elementalism instead of stuff blowin' up.


Personally I'd like to see some magnetism going on. Having danmaku repel or attract each other could make all sorts of interesting spellcards.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2011, 11:19:22 AM »
Manipulation of Fungi would be neat. If only because it's an excuse to come up with a mushroom or fungal youkai that has an 'uprising' against the one who keeps eating her 'comrades'. I remember a boss character of an old text adventure I ran had this ability.
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too bad she was a mushroom youkai and ended up manipulating herself into madness.
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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2011, 12:17:13 PM »
Hmmm.... I would actually like to see a character who didn't have any abilities, but had a magical item that gave her (or him if ZUN is drunk enough) powers.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2011, 06:56:10 PM »
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Personally I'd like to see some magnetism going on. Having danmaku repel or attract each other could make all sorts of interesting spellcards.
I've thought of that aswell

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2011, 08:13:56 PM »
Manipulation of Dimensions
Manipulation of Existance

I have no idea how danmaku would be affected, but damn would it be awesome.

I guess Manipulation of Rage would be cool as well, the more you hit her, the more enraged she gets and harder the danmaku comes.

Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2011, 10:10:47 AM »
Power to escape bad luck
Power to change personality and emotion
Western-style divine power and exorcism(As in christian/catholic)
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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2011, 11:43:03 AM »
Power to escape bad luck
Power to change personality and emotion
Western-style divine power and exorcism(As in christian/catholic)

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any bipolar person,
and Jesus.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2011, 12:50:56 PM »
Maybe a plant-manipulator?
Manipulation of Fungi would be neat.
And their boss, the lichen youkai!
... Wait, lichens are the most boring things in existance. Dammit!
...
Manipulation of boredom!

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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2011, 03:16:04 PM »
and Jesus.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2011, 03:30:41 PM »
Yeah, like what the other person said. They aren't really the same, but Suika can do something similar. I am guessing increasing and
decreasing an object's density causes gravity, since Suika is able to make miniature black holes.

Belatedly, a black hole is created when an object becomes so dense and compact that it rips a hole in space-time. In addition, the very center of a black hole is thought to have infinite density, and when an object reaches that center it is also crushed to infinite density and added to the mass of the black hole. So it makes sense that Suika would be able to make black holes relatively easily.

On a side note, I've always wondered if Utsuho would be able to make black holes by making the suns she creates go supernova and then collapse.

Anyway. On topic, I'd be interested in some of these.
Manipulation of Probability
Manipulation of Memory
Manipulation of Momentum
Ability to Manifest the Imagination
Manipulation of Emotion
Theoretical Driving (no I have no idea what it is, but it sounds awesome)
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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2011, 03:32:27 PM »
Wait, lichens are the most boring things in existance. Dammit!
So was an old, busted parasol...now look what we have :V
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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2011, 11:25:05 PM »
I have given it some thought, and I have come up with some.
Ability to use others abilities by physical contact (limit to one at a time).
Ability to null other abilities.
Manipulation over the evil in ones heart.
Manipulation over anything metal.

Also I want to agree with the those who want manipulation over vibrations.



Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2011, 01:04:32 AM »
Maybe manipulation of Stupidity.
Just talking to this character makes you feel stupider. Kind of like what happens in some fan comics with Cirno.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2011, 06:13:49 AM »
Time for something outside conventional thinking.

Manipulation of Red Tape
Political Manipulation
Military Tactics/Weapons
Police Tactics/Weapons
Iai (aka ImprobableFencingSkills)
Ability to call in attacks from the outside (ARTILLERY BARRAGE)
Ability to absorb force and return it (Like DMC's RoyalGuard)
Ninjutsu
Power of Love Heavy/Power Metal



Cartoon Physics
Game Mechanics
Troll Logic

Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2011, 08:04:22 AM »
I would like to see is manipulation of Gold. This is like the king Midas legend where the character can
turn stuff to gold.
Manipulation over anything metal.
How about Manipulation of Jewelry, it could be an earth element specialty, and think of the gemstone and precious metal themed danmaku.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2011, 12:18:11 PM »
I'd like to see someone who can manipulate anything that is beyond the earth's atmosphere.
Or someone who can manipulate mana.
Or what about someone who can manipulate someone's immortality and mortality? Unless you drank the Hourai Elixir.
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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2011, 01:16:02 PM »
I would like to see Manipulation of Blood tbh.

Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2011, 01:44:00 PM »
I would like to see Manipulation of Blood tbh.
Remilia can sort of do that.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2011, 02:26:34 PM »
Time for something outside conventional thinking.

Cartoon Physics
Game Mechanics
Troll Logic

THIS.

How about Manipulation of Jewelry, it could be an earth element specialty, and think of the gemstone and precious metal themed danmaku.

Oh, that should produce some beautiful danmaku~

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« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2011, 02:33:30 PM »
Ah! Some praise!

Good thing I already have an OC for the cartoon physics part.

Anyone make a crack touhou OC for Troll Logic?

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2011, 03:12:15 PM »
Good thing I already have an OC for the cartoon physics part.
I don't want to remember.

Anyone make a crack touhou OC for Troll Logic?
I think I should go do that right now.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2011, 04:18:39 PM »
Do we have teleportation yet?

Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2011, 04:31:55 PM »

Do we have teleportation yet?
Yukari can do that

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2011, 04:34:28 PM »
Yukari can do a lot of things. Sakuya can do something similar to that in IaMP (her vanishing trick with cards) but in practice it's probably just her stopping time. I meant actual teleportation.

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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2011, 04:56:05 PM »
It's not teleportation, but judging from Reimu's ending in Ten Desires, it seems Miko and her gang have settled in this pocket dimension that allows them to move to any location they want instantly.
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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2011, 07:57:07 PM »
Reimu has a teleport move in the fighter games, and Yuuka, among other PC-98 bosses, teleport quite often.

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« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2011, 08:05:21 PM »
Yuuka, Mugetsu, and Gengetsu can all teleport, though of course it's not their main gig. Komachi does a teleport like thing as well in the fighting games. Also, a note on time/density manipulation. You can view time as the relationship between space and speed, and from that perspective, it would seem to be impossible to manipulate time without influencing the other two. Getting into the physics, time is just a function of space and speed, and by rearranging the equation, you can get space as a funtion of time and speed, and speed as a function of space and time, so it makes sense that controlling one variable gives you some control over the others. Komachi (using distance manipulation) can make a pink pillar in the fighting games that slows the enemy's horizontal movement. The idea is that she stretched the space in that area, but the effet is essentially the same as creating some kind of time slow-down. Similar logic can be used for Suika affecting gravity.

Anyway, powers that I'd like to see:
Plant/fungus manipulation
Using games as danmaku (Chess pieces, playing cards etc. kinda like Flandre's Kagome Kagome)
Math, or another science character like Rika or Rikako
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Re: Abilities - What would you like to see?
« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2011, 11:27:56 PM »
Yuuka, Mugetsu, and Gengetsu can all teleport, though of course it's not their main gig. Komachi does a teleport like thing as well in the fighting games. Also, a note on time/density manipulation. You can view time as the relationship between space and speed, and from that perspective, it would seem to be impossible to manipulate time without influencing the other two. Getting into the physics, time is just a function of space and speed, and by rearranging the equation, you can get space as a funtion of time and speed, and speed as a function of space and time, so it makes sense that controlling one variable gives you some control over the others. Komachi (using distance manipulation) can make a pink pillar in the fighting games that slows the enemy's horizontal movement. The idea is that she stretched the space in that area, but the effet is essentially the same as creating some kind of time slow-down. Similar logic can be used for Suika affecting gravity.


By this logic, would space manipulation and speed manipulation also allow time manipulation by extension?

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« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2011, 11:33:21 PM »
By this logic, would space manipulation and speed manipulation also allow time manipulation by extension?
I would think so. If you can slow things down or speed them up, as well as change the space through which they are moving, you are essentailly manipulating time. After all, the only way to judge the passing of time is to observe movement through space. Hands moving around a clock, the earth perfoming rotations, etc.