Author Topic: Total War: Gensokyo musings... (Read 12174 times)

Aya Reiko · « **on:** September 09, 2011, 06:23:47 AM »

Honestly, given the number of known rivalries and emerging "factionalism", I'm surprised Gensokyo hasn't entered its own Sengoku Jidai period... Thus,

Kicking around some ideas for a couple of weeks, so I made these sashimono for every faction/clan that probably would be represented. I'll let you guess as to which one represents who while I think of how each group should play out (i.e. specialties and starting members). Of course, you can look at the name of each image, but where's the fun in that.

Don't expect anything to actually be made. I don't have the time or skill to make it happen outside of a basic design idea...

Cadmas · « **Reply #1 on:** September 09, 2011, 12:10:18 PM »

All Glory to Hina-sama. All Glory to the Wheel of Fortune and her doll army.

Spoiler:

Bias Bus · « **Reply #2 on:** September 09, 2011, 12:11:15 PM »

Okay, let's see here...

-I know for certain the first sashimono = Yukari, or a faction formed underneath Yukari. The emblem was a dead giveaway to this.
-Second one is most likely Tengu related. Going by the design on Momiji's shield and the shape of Aya's fan.
-Third is most likely underground, since that's Yamame's sigil from GoM. Maybe underground youkai that aren't exactly allied with Komeiji?
- Speaking of which, Satori's is the one on the second row to the far right.
- The one directly below hers is most likely a Kappa oriented faction since that's Nitori's sigil there.
- Hakugyokuro/Yuyuko's sashimono is most likely the second one on the second row. The fan is giving me serious Yuyuko vibes.
- I guess Reimu's is the first one on the bottom row. Can't be for certain but, the colors remind me of her.

I can't figure out the rest though. :V

KFCbbQ · « **Reply #3 on:** September 09, 2011, 03:04:37 PM »

Second one is obviously Reimu as it only contains only red and white!!

...okay maybe not but i know for sure Marisa is the black one with a white kanji.

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #4 on:** September 09, 2011, 04:30:47 PM »

I love Sanae's.

It's definitely more obvious than what you're going for here, but for Utsuho's, I would have chosen this.

DX7.EP · « **Reply #5 on:** September 09, 2011, 06:28:05 PM »

Sashimono aside, I will say that such a mod would instantly win my support, even though I found Total War (Empire and Napoleon) so-so.

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2011, 01:56:56 AM »

Quote from: CHEN Guerilla Warmongers on September 09, 2011, 06:28:05 PM

Sashimono aside, I will say that such a mod would instantly win my support, even though I found Total War (Empire and Napoleon) so-so.

You should give Shogun 2 a try then.

- - - - -

Rather than fighting for control of human towns (since there only one in Gensokyo), everyone's fighting to control the most plentiful and disposable part of Gensokyo, fairies. Or, more accurately, spiritual lay-lines where fairies tend to cluster and other important locations in the realm.
Also, Generals and Leaders are not killed, they merely retreat to the faction's capital to recuperate for a bit. There are "free agent" characters they may want to join a faction, provided certain conditions are (or are not) being met.

That said...

Cirno
Leader: Cirno
Other Starting Generals: The Three Mischievious Fairies
+ Improved morale for all Fairy Bands
+ Reduced costs and upkeep for all Fairies
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Fujiwara
Leader: Mokou
Other Starting Generals: Keine
+ Improved morale for all Human-lead units
+ Reduced costs and upkeep for all Human-lead units
- At war with Houraisan
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Houraisan
Leader: Kaguya
Other Starting Generals: Eirin, Reisen, Tei
+ Improved morale for all Rabbit Brigades
+ Can recruiut superior Rabbit Brigades
+ Reduced costs and upkeep for all Rabbit Brigades
(Master, where did all these rabbits come from?)
- At war with Fujiwara
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Scarlet
Leader: Remilia
Other Starting Generals: Sakuya, Meiling, Patchouli, Flandre
+ Recruits Fairy Maids instead of Fairy Bands. Fairy Maids are cheaper, but have lower morale than ordinary Fairies.
+ Increased loyalty for all generals
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

KrackoCloud · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2011, 06:57:00 AM »

Certainly an interesting take on things. I liked the Oni and Myouren ones the most.

Any plans for the Yama or Makai?

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2011, 09:12:46 AM »

This clinches it.

If anyone ever makes this mod, I swear to play it with my friends at every opportunity.

Anything for the Okazaki faction?

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2011, 02:40:53 AM »

White Wolf Tengu
"Leader": Momiji
Other Starting Generals: none
+ Improved morale for all White Wolf units
+ Can recruit superior White Wolf units
+ Reduced costs and upkeep for all White Wolf units
- At war with Crow Tengu
Religion: Shinto-Kochiya

Crow Tengu
"Leader": Aya
Other Starting Generals: Hatate
+ Improved morale for all Crow units
+ Can recruit superior Crow units
+ Reduced costs and upkeep for all Crow units
- At war with White Wolf Tengu
Religion: Shinto-Kochiya

Kappa
"Leader": Nitori
Other Starting Generals: none
+ Reduced costs for Fortifications
+ Fortification construction speed reduced by one turn
+ Can recruit superior siege units
-At war with Tsuchigumo
Religion: Shinto-Kochiya

Tsuchigumo
"Leader": Yamame
Other Starting Generals: none
+Units recover from losses quicker
-At war with Kappa
Religion: Shinto-Kochiya

Adamb · « **Reply #10 on:** September 13, 2011, 12:45:34 AM »

If you made this a reality, I'd play this so hard my mouse would wear out in 3 days and force me to go outside ;~;. FUND IT!!1

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #11 on:** September 13, 2011, 02:37:51 AM »

Hakurei
Leader: Reimu
Other Starting Generals: none
+Converts regions to Shinto-Hakurei faster than other factions
+Generals can convert provinces to the Shinto-Hakurei faith
+Cost and upkeep for all units is reduced slightly
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Kochiya
Leader: Sanae
Other Starting Generals: Kanako, Suwako
+Converts regions to Shinto-Kochiya faster than other factions
+Generals can convert provinces to the Shinto-Kochiya faith
+Morale for all units is increased slightly
Religion: Shinto-Kochiya

Hijiri
Leader: Byakuren
Other Starting Generals: Shou, Minamitsu, Nazrin, and Ichirin
+Converts regions to Buddhism faster than other factions
+Generals can convert provinces to the Buddhist faith
+Melee, Missile, and Magic Attack for all units is increased slightly
-At war with Toyosatomimi
-Allied with Houjuu
Religion: Buddhism

Toyosatomimi
Leader: Toyosatomimi
Other Starting Generals: Mononobe, Soga, and Seiga
+Converts regions to Taoism faster than other factions
+Generals can convert provinces to the Taoist faith
+Defense for all units is increased slightly
-At war with Hijiri
Religion: Taoism

Tengukami · « **Reply #12 on:** September 13, 2011, 01:36:54 PM »

This is fascinating. I'd learn how to play the original just to be able to play this.

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #13 on:** September 14, 2011, 04:05:32 AM »

Saigyouji
Leader: Yuyuko
Other Starting Generals: Youmu
+ Improved morale for all Ghost-influenced units
+ Can recruit superior Ghost-influenced units
+ Reduced costs and upkeep for all Ghost-influenced units
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Kazami
Leader: Yuuka
Other Starting Generals: Rumia, Mystia, Medicine
+All Enemy Units have decreased morale in combat
+Cannot recruiit Human units
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Houjuu
Leader: Nue
Other Starting Generals: Mamizou
+Rival Factions cannot see what kind of units are in any Houjuu army
+Can recruit superior stealth agents (re: ninja)
-Allied with Hijiri
-Vassal of Hijiri
-At war with Yakumo
Religion: Buddhism

Kirasame
Leader: Marisa
Other Starting Generals: Alice
+ Improved morale for all Magic units
+ Can recruit superior Magic units
+ Reduced costs and upkeep for all Magic units
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2011, 05:53:48 AM »

Yakumo
Leader: Yukari
Other Starting Generals: Ran, Chen
+ Can recruit specialized units at any location as long as the clan has access to required resources
- At war with Houjuu
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

Oni
Leader: Yuugi
Other Starting Generals: Suika
+ All units have improved morale and melee attack
+ All units have decreased speed and missile and magic attack accuracy
Religion: Shinto-Kochiya

Komeiji
Leader: Satori
Other Starting Generals: Rin, Utsuho, Koishi
+ Greatly improved chances of detecting hidden armies on the field
+ Will detect hidden units much sooner than normal in battle
Religion: Shinto-Kochiya

Hinanai
Leader: Tenshi
Other Starting Generals: none
+ Bonus to diplomatic relations
+ Can manually select the weather prior to battle
Religion: Shinto-Hakurei

psyfaqs111 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2011, 06:17:21 AM »

wait, wouldn't iku be a general for the hinanai clan?

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #16 on:** September 22, 2011, 03:30:59 PM »

Quote from: psyfaqs111 on September 21, 2011, 06:17:21 AM

wait, wouldn't iku be a general for the hinanai clan?

Not initially.

Iku isn't really connected to Tenshi, just familiar with her.

poglogo · « **Reply #17 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:00:17 PM »

Wait, is this a fan game or something you came up with cuz i would play it.

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #18 on:** September 26, 2011, 12:24:41 PM »

> Hijiri-Houjuu alliance is a negative
> Houjuu at war with Yakumo house

uhh why?

Palewolf · « **Reply #19 on:** September 27, 2011, 06:56:19 PM »

Quote from: Evans in Blunderland on September 26, 2011, 12:24:41 PM

> Hijiri-Houjuu alliance is a negative
> Houjuu at war with Yakumo house

uhh why?

Because Ran and Mamizou i guess.

Pretty cool idea anyways.

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #20 on:** September 29, 2011, 07:06:49 AM »

Quote from: Evans in Blunderland on September 26, 2011, 12:24:41 PM

> Hijiri-Houjuu alliance is a negative
> Houjuu at war with Yakumo house

uhh why?

+'s are things that can't change. -'s are things that can.

And it's been said that Mamizou would eventually cause trouble for foxes in Gensokyo. I just hastened the inevitable.

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #21 on:** September 29, 2011, 02:05:16 PM »

Oh, derp :derp:

Ran and Mamizou, why'd I not think of that? Any factions coming up for MS characters?

VIVItheFujoshi · « **Reply #22 on:** September 30, 2011, 08:51:30 AM »

um...then what is the situation of the Konpaku clan in this? because they serves to the Saigyouji, but have their own crest. (look Youmu outfit)

Quote from: Mr. Simple on September 10, 2011, 06:57:00 AM

Any plans for the Yama or Makai?

and the Konpaku clan, the Lunarians (with Eirin in command) Humans (representated with Keine and Mokou) and Faeries (with Cirno in command...because she won the fairy wars XD)?
(and for some reason, Kourindou, and Morichika clan.

Spoiler:

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however... http://www.samurai-archives.com/cultcat.html

KrackoCloud · « **Reply #23 on:** October 02, 2011, 10:47:35 PM »

Quote from: VIVItheFujoshi on September 30, 2011, 08:51:30 AM

um...then what is the situation of the Konpaku clan in this? because they serves to the Saigyouji, but have their own crest. (look Youmu outfit)
and the Konpaku clan, the Lunarians (with Eirin in command) Humans (representated with Keine and Mokou) and Faeries (with Cirno in command...because she won the fairy wars XD)?

The Saigyouji clan states that Youmu is in it, so there probably won't be a Konpaku clan, I'm guessing.
As for humans, there's already a Fujiwara clan, and the faries have a Cirno clan.

Aya Reiko · « **Reply #24 on:** October 09, 2011, 07:19:52 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Simple on October 02, 2011, 10:47:35 PM

The Saigyouji clan states that Youmu is in it, so there probably won't be a Konpaku clan, I'm guessing.
As for humans, there's already a Fujiwara clan, and the faries have a Cirno clan.

Pretty much this. Also, Fujiwara has Keine already in it, who's the closest thing to the village's representative atm.
No PC-98 era will be added, since I consider them to be retconned out of existance.
I'm debating on the Yama, but the current scenario would need something for the Netherworld, the Underground, and possibly something for Tenshi's domain. ... Maybe if I give them a link to the Netherworld in addition to the Mortal world...
The lunarians are a definite no. In a small degree, they are already represented in the Houraisan clan.

VIVItheFujoshi · « **Reply #25 on:** October 09, 2011, 08:22:03 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Simple on October 02, 2011, 10:47:35 PM

The Saigyouji clan states that Youmu is in it, so there probably won't be a Konpaku clan, I'm guessing.
As for humans, there's already a Fujiwara clan, and the faries have a Cirno clan.

oh, yea, no had seen the Cirno one XD...and yes, how the Konpaku are servants of the Saigyouji for a long time...is more like they carries the Saigyouji clan flag and use the Konpaku crest in the uniform.I like it.

Kazero · « **Reply #26 on:** October 11, 2011, 06:21:25 AM »

knowing my character...he'd be running from all factions because he'd wanna stay out of this 'War' and live