Author Topic: Let's initiate the Survival Strategy. Mawaru Penguindrum thread! (Read 57298 times)

Dead Princess Sakana · « **Reply #30 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:25:13 PM »

This series will definitely be worth a rewatch, though I will wait till it's over for that. I already noticed a number of things that completely eluded me the first time I watched in the single minute of Ep9 I checked earlier. I can't even begin to imagine how it will be to watch everything again once we have answers. As much answers as we will get, anyway, since yeah, probably a lot gonna stay open at this rate.

Okuda · « **Reply #31 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:53:51 PM »

Insert songs/OST do want for this series when they're released, love how they're performing classic songs like Daddy's Shoes. Also, finally remembered to order for the first of the Penguindrum novels when I was preordering the blu-rays, according to Ikuhara, there are going to be a total of 3 volumes. Loving the anime so far too, definitely glad it's a 2 cour series.

Tamer Anode/Cathode · « **Reply #32 on:** September 27, 2011, 06:10:17 PM »

Quote from: Takakura Himaruro on September 27, 2011, 05:21:33 PM

You know, I can't help but think that in many ways, this will be like Utena, in that we'll never get a straight answer on a lot of these questions. Most other stories give in and spill the beans in a revealing episode near the end, but I am not entirely sure we'll get that from Ikuhara. ^^' He's perfectly comfortable leaving us uncomfortable in ambiguity, so...

That's honestly a lot of the fun of this series, I like that deliberate vagueness and openness to interpretation.

Also, any word on when Nornir (the OP) will be released as a single if it hasn't already? I'm kinda looking forward to it.

Okuda · « **Reply #33 on:** September 27, 2011, 06:12:12 PM »

Quote from: Colossal The Loving Gourmet on September 27, 2011, 06:10:17 PM

That's honestly a lot of the fun of this series, I like that deliberate vagueness and openness to interpretation.

Also, any word on when Nornir (the OP) will be released as a single if it hasn't already? I'm kinda looking forward to it.

Single is coming out October 5th in Japan last I checked, so about another week.

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #34 on:** September 27, 2011, 06:19:28 PM »

Aww. I thought it was supposed to be out by the end of the month.

Oh well, I love Dear Future so much more than the OP anyway. :*

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #35 on:** September 27, 2011, 07:04:17 PM »

The only time I paid attention to the OP was when I was first watching it for all its crazy symbolism.

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I want to say it was totally unintentional, but with Ikuhara...

labeth · « **Reply #36 on:** September 29, 2011, 04:08:13 AM »

Oh, good! I'm glad there's a release date for the single. I was a little worried, considering it took like years to get all of the Utena music out on the market.

Azinth · « **Reply #37 on:** September 30, 2011, 03:56:45 AM »

Just saw ep. 12.

The first half of the episode

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. The second half... I can't even begin to describe.

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #38 on:** September 30, 2011, 05:24:35 AM »

episode 12

I hear my brain cells exploding as I try to make sense of this

Tamer Anode/Cathode · « **Reply #39 on:** September 30, 2011, 05:25:40 AM »

Just wrapped up episode 12.

GAH CLIFFHANGERS CLIFFHANGERS GAH

MatsuriSakuragi · « **Reply #40 on:** September 30, 2011, 05:32:19 AM »

Episode 12.

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nintendonut888 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 30, 2011, 05:34:43 AM »

I...

Uh.

:ohdear:

Dead Princess Sakana · « **Reply #42 on:** September 30, 2011, 06:03:08 AM »

Okay, so I think we can say that

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As for the rest of the episode... what the heck. Also, SAAAANEEEETOOOOSHIIIIIIII. What's that bastard up to again?

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #43 on:** September 30, 2011, 06:18:25 AM »

Quote from: Sakanamoto-san on September 30, 2011, 06:03:08 AM

Okay, so I think we can say that
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while it's definitely heavily referencing the Aum-incident, the incident in the series is not the *same* (bombs instead of gas etc.),

Yeah, I did definitely notice that.

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Tamer Anode/Cathode · « **Reply #44 on:** September 30, 2011, 02:43:17 PM »

Hm, my gut tells me there's a possibility that

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Azinth · « **Reply #45 on:** September 30, 2011, 03:19:17 PM »

Also,

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if we take it at face value. The cynical part of me thinks that

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but we'll see.

I found the

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pretty interesting. Seems like

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Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #46 on:** September 30, 2011, 05:27:45 PM »

Quote from: Azinth on September 30, 2011, 03:19:17 PM

Also,
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Mrs. Takakura apparently only gave birth to one boy that day,
if we take it at face value. The cynical part of me thinks that
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they're gonna use it to justify Kanba/Himari-cest,
but we'll see.

Actually, I think it's the reverse.

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Speaking of,

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, oh my god. But the BGM during that scene was just soooooooo good. Ikuhara, why do you do this?

Aya Squawkermaru · « **Reply #47 on:** September 30, 2011, 11:30:08 PM »

...

......

.........

:getdown:

And I think the

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Also,

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One last thing from me:

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Fightest · « **Reply #48 on:** October 02, 2011, 01:01:01 AM »

I just marathoned the show up to episode 12, and I have to say I have not experienced pacing as mad as this since Gurren Lagann. I'll stay away from theorizing and whatnot, but I'll definitely say that with just the tiniest of tonal change (they'd just need to remove the Stripping Disco Princess), this show could be one of the most horrifying things in years, with its extremely thorough and usually straight take on the awful shit people do to each other, and the consequences thereof. Definite kudos to the writers there.

Also, to the spoiler-bar talk upthread: consider that sometimes a penguin is just a penguin. Knowing anime it's probably not, but it's what I'm subscribing to for the moment.

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #49 on:** October 04, 2011, 04:10:09 AM »

Actually, I tentatively take back what I said about the dialogue in episode 12

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. According to some other Penguindrum fans I hang out with,

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Anyway, IS IT THURSDAY YET?

EDIT: On a less spoilery note, I wonder if/how the antarctic discovery photo in episode 12 is connected to everything. It's worth noting that the photo of the team was of the 36th Japanese Antarctic Research Expedition that discovered Yukimarimo.

Drake · « **Reply #50 on:** October 04, 2011, 05:25:22 AM »

naked loli in my brainbase anime

Dead Princess Sakana · « **Reply #51 on:** October 04, 2011, 06:32:04 AM »

Quote from: Takakura Himaruro on October 04, 2011, 04:10:09 AM

According to some other Penguindrum fans I hang out with,
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the dialogue is very careful to not specify either. Japanese doesn't force that dialogue to assign a single or multiple term to that conversation, so it sounds like a single boy is born but the dialogue is noticeably, awkwardly, very careful to NOT confirm that.

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Dead Princess Sakana · « **Reply #52 on:** October 07, 2011, 05:14:16 PM »

Soooo, episode 13.
My main reaction is once more:

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Also random thoughts:

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Tamer Anode/Cathode · « **Reply #53 on:** October 07, 2011, 07:50:24 PM »

Well, certainly interesting to see Sanetoshi's character and motivations being developed. And I appear to be wrong about

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, although this could change with further revelations.

Also, new ED. While it certainly captures the recent shift in the series's tone, it'll take a while for it to grow on me like Dear Future did.

Dead Princess Sakana · « **Reply #54 on:** October 07, 2011, 08:03:26 PM »

Another thing I find interesting is how Shouma and Ringo's relation has their roles pretty much flipped 180 by now.

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Drake · « **Reply #55 on:** October 08, 2011, 07:16:05 AM »

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I don't think the Princess of the Crystal is Momoka is the clairvoyant girl. Momoka is probably the clairvoyant, but considering the Princess was asking Sanetoshi about the girl, she probably isn't the Princess as well. What's worth mentioning as well is that in saving Himari's life, it's possible he also saved the Princess. Looked like it was pretty obvious that the Princess was dying as well. The medicine administered is probably something akin to the Princess' power as well. If apples are the universe and the universe is fated, then the apples are fate too. Medicine was totally in an apple. Apples were everywhere this episode.

If you look at Momoka's portrait and compare it to the running girl they're pretty much the same. The sixteen years ago thing (again) is obviously on purpose too. Why weren't they going to be together? Because they both knew she would die. Momoka didn't want to accept the fate of her death and rejected her abilities. This is visualized in how she hides in a bookshelf space, then takes her shoes off. The Princess has evidently shown little interest in Ringo, but she was attempting to get Momoka's diary. Of "fate". What's likely happened is that Momoka put together a diary of what she imagined her life to be if she wasn't going to die, in an attempt to twist her fate. This is why it's continued much past her death, and thus Ringo attempting to follow it to "become Momoka" is very fitting. When she died, Momoka had gotten on the train later that day. It's obvious now that she did this to try and avoid what she thought to be where she would die, although it still happened. Immediately after that revelation the woman says "Luck wasn't with her". The Princess points to the diary being the Penguindrum because she knows Momoka is the clairvoyant and it's one of the only remaining things she possessed when she died, and is a testament to changing fate.

Now that I think about it, it's quite possible that Momoka didn't die, and managed to avoid her own death, which is why the diary was left behind and why there was no trace of her. What's fun is that if that were the case, Tabuki "not believing" Momoka is dead would be right, and he does in fact say it again this episode, that he "still can't believe it happened". Also in that scene, mark the importance of one black cat walking, then three following in line, then another single cat. The three cats are then shown behind the frog, and leaving.

I like how in the ED, Himari is shown twice, and Shouma and Kanba's hand are shown at the end, Kanba's being darkened and red.

Dead Princess Sakana · « **Reply #56 on:** October 08, 2011, 03:41:41 PM »

Ah, I see, that clears up a few points. I really don't pay enough attention at times :V

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #57 on:** October 08, 2011, 07:15:28 PM »

Watching episode 13 last night, for whatever reason the only thing I was really able to concentrate on was Sanetoshi's fabulous boots. Good god, I want a pair just like them.

AxiamWolfe · « **Reply #58 on:** October 15, 2011, 12:40:35 PM »

Episode 14......

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Quote from: Suwakana Moriya on October 07, 2011, 08:03:26 PM

Another thing I find interesting is how Shouma and Ringo's relation has their roles pretty much flipped 180 by now.
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Ringo has come to terms with the fact that she is not Momoka and won't become her, at least that's how it appears right now, all thanks to Shouma's efforts. But now it's Shouma who is going mental with the guilt for what his parents did and Ringo is the one who tries to comfort him.

More of this too, with Shouma outright pushing her away now.
Damn, do i feel sorry for Ringo.

Dead Princess Sakana · « **Reply #59 on:** October 15, 2011, 04:06:58 PM »

Quote from: AxiamWolfe on October 15, 2011, 12:40:35 PM

Damn, do i feel sorry for Ringo.

Indeed ;___;

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