Author Topic: Possibly-crazy stuff that you still haven't noticed until now (Read 99826 times)

Zil · « **Reply #450 on:** January 29, 2012, 02:16:54 AM »

Doesn't "gensou" mean "illusion"? I don't see why it can't be a dream world that real people and objects can nonetheless enter by being forgotten or whatever.

iK · « **Reply #451 on:** January 29, 2012, 02:20:08 AM »

Though this would have been more fitting for the now closed crack theory thread V:

Yukari-Chan · « **Reply #452 on:** January 29, 2012, 03:39:00 AM »

Have anyone of you noticed that all extra mid-bosses have 3 nonspells except Chen?

Chronojet ⚙ Dragon · « **Reply #453 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:12:05 AM »

She has one nonspell and two spell cards. Always three patterns.
Patchouli, Keine, Sanae, Kogasa, and Nue: 3 spells.
Chen and Kanako: one nonspell, two spells.

Zil · « **Reply #454 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:17:10 AM »

Kanako has 3 spells and 1 nonspell. None of them have 3 nonspells though.

Arcengal · « **Reply #455 on:** January 29, 2012, 11:50:30 AM »

Quote from: Starxsword on January 29, 2012, 02:03:08 AM

We also know things that are forgotten or lost appear in Gensokyo and those have nothing to do with belief.

Then how come Gensokyo isn't also full of odd socks? :V

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #456 on:** January 29, 2012, 01:57:31 PM »

Quote from: kyuu on January 29, 2012, 04:12:05 AM

Chen and Kanako: one nonspell, two spells.

Spoiler:

Chronojet ⚙ Dragon · « **Reply #457 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:03:41 PM »

But Ran is pretty much Chen except an easier second pattern.

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #458 on:** January 30, 2012, 10:42:17 AM »

She's still an indi-bloody-vidual, though :V

Should we count the two PC-98 EX midbosses? (Card King and Not-Nue)

AxiamWolfe · « **Reply #459 on:** January 30, 2012, 02:14:40 PM »

Quote from: Arcengal on January 29, 2012, 11:50:30 AM

Then how come Gensokyo isn't also full of odd socks? :V

I don't think it works like that. Things that go to Gensokyo are more things that have faded from the public consciousness than things that are lost.

CoLA had that part where Rinnosuke muses about an original Game Boy for example.

People on the other hand, I dunno. Would probably result in an incident however!

Maav · « **Reply #460 on:** January 30, 2012, 05:27:33 PM »

Quote from: Starxsword on January 28, 2012, 05:26:21 AM

@Zil:
I don't know, the only playable characters in non decimal Touhou games have been human. So, I just assume Marisa is a human.

Remilia, Youmu, Yuyuko. :C

XephyrEnigma · « **Reply #461 on:** January 30, 2012, 07:04:49 PM »

Quote from: Maav on January 30, 2012, 05:27:33 PM

Remilia, Youmu, Yuyuko. :C

Vampire, Half-Ghost, Full Ghost. but yeah, they were playables too, so not ALL the characters were human.

MMX · « **Reply #462 on:** January 30, 2012, 07:23:01 PM »

Trance "revives" shrinked spirits in Ten Desires. I mean, if you use trance when there are divine spirits floating on screen and dont collect them (wich also means not playing as Reimu) then after trance ends all spirits are fullsize again, no matter how close to vanish they were before trance. That helps a lot when it comes to refilling your trance gauge at some places.

Zil · « **Reply #463 on:** January 30, 2012, 07:56:30 PM »

That actually makes Reimu's spirit absorbing seem like a weakness. As someone else you can leave all of the spirits and collect them after the trance to recharge more quickly. :wat:

MMX · « **Reply #464 on:** January 30, 2012, 08:08:55 PM »

Quote from: Zil on January 30, 2012, 07:56:30 PM

That actually makes Reimu's spirit absorbing seem like a weakness. As someone else you can leave all of the spirits and collect them after the trance to recharge more quickly. :wat:

Yeah. That's why (along with more power) i prefer TD Marisa more than Reimu.

Chronojet ⚙ Dragon · « **Reply #465 on:** January 30, 2012, 11:50:53 PM »

Quote from: MMX on January 30, 2012, 07:23:01 PM

Trance "revives" shrinked spirits in Ten Desires. I mean, if you use trance when there are divine spirits floating on screen and dont collect them (wich also means not playing as Reimu) then after trance ends all spirits are fullsize again, no matter how close to vanish they were before trance. That helps a lot when it comes to refilling your trance gauge at some places.

It's a really awesome tactic in, say, Stage 2 where you can get like 4 (x2 = 8) bomb spirits at once. Really.

I have no name · « **Reply #466 on:** January 31, 2012, 05:24:59 AM »

PoFV, Yuuka's story, Stage 6, against Reimu.

"It went back to normal when I defeated you before!"
Canon reference to a PC-98 game (Lotus Land Story).

MMX · « **Reply #467 on:** January 31, 2012, 01:20:37 PM »

Quote from: kyuu on January 30, 2012, 11:50:53 PM

It's a really awesome tactic in, say, Stage 2 where you can get like 4 (x2 = 8) bomb spirits at once. Really.

Yeah. See my run where i tranced stage 2 three times, gathering all life pieces at double rate.

P.S.: Ending fairies of Stage 2 give you 6 (x2=12) bomb pieces and 2 life. But the most ridiculous bomb galore happens at the end of stage 5.

iK · « **Reply #468 on:** January 31, 2012, 06:28:47 PM »

And that's why I like using Sanae so much in TD. Constant flow of spirits.

Starxsword · « **Reply #469 on:** February 01, 2012, 06:06:57 AM »

Quote from: XephyrEnigma on January 30, 2012, 07:04:49 PM

Vampire, Half-Ghost, Full Ghost. but yeah, they were playables too, so not ALL the characters were human.

Heh, I missed that. I guess Remilia is playable even though she must be in a team. I guess Phantasmagoria games are the exception.
But canonically speaking, Phantasmagoria games are not incidents. The norm for Touhou playable characters is that they must be
human, which is why Reimu, Marisa, Sanae, Sakuya, and Youmu are playable.

As for Mystic Square, I consider that an anomaly.

They say stuff like this in the spell card rules themselves:

Quote

That youkai can easily cause disasters.
That humans can easily resolve disasters.

Drake · « **Reply #470 on:** February 01, 2012, 06:53:18 AM »

Well generally speaking,
- a youkai can now attack humans, notably the Hakurei shrine maiden, without ill consequence
- unlike the previous set of rules, youkai can now cause incidents without ill consequence
- a human probably isn't going to have the capability to start an incident, but the equal chance is given by allowing humans to stand up to youkai
Almost miraculously, these are all completely different scenarios that are solved with one concept.

circle nine · « **Reply #471 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:26:58 AM »

Flandre destroys things by going 'kyuu'
9 in japanese is 'kyuu'
Cirno is a 9

Strongest!

steamcat · « **Reply #472 on:** February 02, 2012, 05:14:19 AM »

Anyone ever notice the drumroll in MoF right before the end of a boss's spellcard?

Zil · « **Reply #473 on:** February 02, 2012, 05:16:51 AM »

The noise the game makes when you shoot the boss gets louder when she's low on health. I'm pretty sure that's what you're thinking of, and it happens in most of the newer games. (MoF and onward)

Chronojet ⚙ Dragon · « **Reply #474 on:** February 02, 2012, 06:06:48 PM »

It happens in every game, starting I believe in EoSD.

Spoiler:

I have no name · « **Reply #475 on:** February 03, 2012, 12:52:10 PM »

PoFV bullets reflected maintain their original velocities.

So THAT'S why I've had so many random turbo bullet from nowhere slam directly into my hitbox while playing with Aya...my level 2 is my own worst enemy.

Tiamat · « **Reply #476 on:** February 04, 2012, 03:12:21 PM »

ZUN stated in an interview in Silent Sinner in Blue that most of the viewpoints were from the human characters' perspectives, because youkai way of thinking is wierd compared to humans. I forget if he stated this was the case for the games as well, but it would explain why all the games besides the phantasmagorias and fighitng games (where it would be unavoidable) have you playing human characters instead of youkai.

Imperishable Night is an exception, but mainly because it's about a human teamed up with a youkai. So even tho youkai characters are playabe there, they're teamed up with human characters.

(Youmu's half-human, which is close enough, as shown by how she represents the human half of the ghost team. ...although solo Youmu can only get up to half human bar filled

)

Rinnosuke being half-human is probably close enough, too, which I suppose leaves Oriental Sacred Place (including when it was under a different name) as the only Touhou work that takes place primarily from a youkai viewpoint. Although fairies probably view things differently than most youkai.

shadowbringer · « **Reply #477 on:** February 04, 2012, 04:51:00 PM »

Quote from: Tiamat on February 04, 2012, 03:12:21 PM

Rinnosuke being half-human is probably close enough, too, which I suppose leaves Oriental Sacred Place (including when it was under a different name) as the only Touhou work that takes place primarily from a youkai viewpoint. Although fairies probably view things differently than most youkai.

there was also BAiJR, WaHH and the CiLR stories (not counting the "primarily from a youkai viewpoint" bit). *waits warmly for the next BAiJR, forgot the name but it's the content that matters, right?

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Starxsword · « **Reply #478 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:32:22 AM »

Yeah, the new book will most likely talk about 10, 11, 12, 13, and the fighting games in between them. We may even know if the unnamed
giant catfish is real? or not.

teefa85 · « **Reply #479 on:** February 06, 2012, 04:00:09 AM »

I've noticed in HRtP that sometimes Reimu's pallet would alter and turn green (I think it was either dying or bombing on boss stages). Cut forward to PoDD, and what's Reimu's alternate pallet? Green.