Author Topic: Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: GAME OVER, ROLES WIN! (Read 47708 times)

Shadoweh · « **Reply #750 on:** June 11, 2011, 02:49:18 AM »

And if you have questions for anyone, now's a good time to list them, like for Dormio. There isn't much he can reply to if you just say you don't like his claim, though I don't fault you for it. I just find it... consistent with his play. There'd have been alot more swearing if you'd died at the start of Day 9, I assure you.

Lexicat · « **Reply #751 on:** June 11, 2011, 02:51:37 AM »

Quote from: Caedo Ergo Sum on June 10, 2011, 11:33:21 PM

Basically, my thought process for that vig.
*Send in pre-kill on LSD*
*Pre-sent kill fails because I messed up the PM*
*Skim through topic*
"Oh my God what is this."
"Thank God the kill didn't go through."
*Be confused as Shadoweh and LSD are pretty much confirmed town*
*Shoot capt. h because I still didn't like him*

Yes, it was pretty terrible. Yes, I am impatient and especially so after having just got out of bed. Whatever.

This alone makes me want to lynch him. This pre-kill nonsense for a member of town is extremely scummy.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #752 on:** June 11, 2011, 02:55:17 AM »

EBWOM: I forgot to add I am totally napping right now and will reply to any questions about why I'm attacking everyone's town read later. More questions from everyone, for everyone! We're still alive, seize the day and search for the last mafioso! :3 We still have about 36 hours until we should lynch again.

Cut by Lambda: Oh you're just saying that because he wanted to kill you. Which is entirely consistent with yesterday. I'll let Dormio defend his own choices though, which he should.

Lexicat · « **Reply #753 on:** June 11, 2011, 02:58:59 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 11, 2011, 02:55:17 AM

EBWOM: I forgot to add I am totally napping right now and will reply to any questions about why I'm attacking everyone's town read later. More questions from everyone, for everyone! We're still alive, seize the day and search for the last mafioso! :3 We still have about 36 hours until we should lynch again.

Cut by Lambda: Oh you're just saying that because he wanted to kill you. Which is entirely consistent with yesterday. I'll let Dormio defend his own choices though, which he should.

Please don't make that assumption. I want him to explain why he decided that pre-sending his kill was a good idea as TOWN.

(I.E: It's not.)

Chaore · « **Reply #754 on:** June 11, 2011, 05:49:32 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 11, 2011, 02:27:55 AM

Oh, so you didn't. That makes me dislike your post even more. You agreed with me about his roleclaim not making sense for scum and outright state you don't believe Dormio's claim. Your post was before Affinity voted for Dormio. Why wouldn't you be the one voting him right now?

Mostly because her claim isn't proven, and I was still thinking it over at that time. I probably would go for the unvote to Dormio -now-, but around then I was still puzzling that out because her claim is honestly a bit of a thing. I want it proven before I even bother trying to guess what UK was thinking with that role. I'm not unvoting now mostly because the gesture is futile and is one of saying I have completely dropped the case. I don't want mistakes that Anthony is now confirmed town being made, and my vote would like to be a symbol of that.

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 11, 2011, 02:27:55 AM

Correct. You do not state Affinity over Anthy. You merely start today with a huge case on Anthy, then state that your feelings about Affinity's play haven't really changed. I do not understand what about Affinity improved for you. Please point out to me where this happened.

Affinity was never a strong read for me, and the more misgivings I have tend to be matched by the misgivings others give, and then doubled. Safely put- Affinity has always been my third because he's always been that one in the back of the room that looks shifty and you want to say something about, but there is the guy literally stealing the keys to your car in front of your eyes so you focus on him. If you want to ask why Anthy got worse, I'd have to say it was continued posting making me more aware 'no that isn't just a replace in attitude, this is honestly what anthony is going to play like' and a second look at Zakeri to really realize he hadn't actually made a viable case his entire play like I thought (Funny because I know I read that 'so turns out your case really -was- paraphrased from Shadoweh' line a few times before without it clicking. Guess I am just a dumb rabbit).

My feelings on him were third place scummiest before, and they've not changed from third place scummiest with the flip.

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 11, 2011, 02:27:55 AM

No, but I'm told that's my regular MO. You 'irk' me the least out of the living players. Sadly that doesn't decrease your chances of being scum.

I uh...if I understand this right, I 'irk' you the least, but... Wait, this is just you going after me because I have the same chance of being scum as everyone else and...what? i am a dumb rabbit can you explain this shadoweh witchcraft wordwork to me. >:

Affinity · « **Reply #755 on:** June 11, 2011, 07:15:25 AM »

Nothing has really changed for me and I'll still probably be voting for Dormio by the end of the day, since I can't stand the power his roleclaim is exerting on my mind. Shadoweh's read on Chaore is somewhat inspired but not exactly concrete, and I would prefer it if Dormio were to flip first. Chaore and Anthy are for me, backdated to tomorrow, and thus, so are their reads.

I would also add on Chaore that now the fogginess surrounding why he picked PX over Edible on the first post of reads he made is somewhat more definitely scummy, since he never really answered my question as to why (he did say in detail why PX is scummy, but why not over Edible).

Pesco · « **Reply #756 on:** June 11, 2011, 07:23:30 AM »

The Vote Count For A New Page Vote Count

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (2): LLD, Chaore
Chaore (1): Shadoweh
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (2): Anthony, Affinity
Affinity (0)

Not Voting (2): huh what, Dormio

Anthony is at L-2
Dormio is at L-2
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Game Day Ten Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Friday

Shadoweh · « **Reply #757 on:** June 11, 2011, 08:54:19 AM »

Quote from: Affinity on June 11, 2011, 07:15:25 AM

Nothing has really changed for me and I'll still probably be voting for Dormio by the end of the day, since I can't stand the power his roleclaim is exerting on my mind.

Why? Ignore how derp he'd have to be to do this for a second. What part of it isn't believable to you? Is there something wrong with his kill targets as he's claimed them from his perspective?

Quote from: Chaore on June 11, 2011, 05:49:32 AM

Mostly because her claim isn't proven, and I was still thinking it over at that time. I probably would go for the unvote to Dormio -now-, but around then I was still puzzling that out because her claim is honestly a bit of a thing. I want it proven before I even bother trying to guess what UK was thinking with that role.

Let's pretend it's true, because I highly doubt Zak would be so specific about it or that Anthy would give us something so easily disproven if it's wrong. What would you think about it then?

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Affinity was never a strong read for me, and the more misgivings I have tend to be matched by the misgivings others give, and then doubled.

This sounds like your reasoning for not suspecting Affinity is because no one else suspects him. Is this true?

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I uh...if I understand this right, I 'irk' you the least, but... Wait, this is just you going after me because I have the same chance of being scum as everyone else and...what? i am a dumb rabbit can you explain this shadoweh witchcraft wordwork to me. >:

I'm saying that I like you~ But that you could still be scum~ And no matter how much I like you~ It doesn't change that Dan tried to misdirect us off the Schezo wagon~ and agreed with a townie that was about to die with the incorrect parts of his posts~ (I'm pretty sure Serp died so he wouldn't follow up Edible after.) What I really want is your claim, but that's mostly because I'm curious what else is out there.

If Dormio is lying scum, his actual play will be as scummy as his roleclaim if you look at it. I want both Chaore and Affinity to make a case on him that includes his play this game, especially anything inconsistent with his vig claim and his targets.

Need Anthy to report in too when he's around, don't think testing means you don't need to input anything worthwhile. Try to structure your thoughts less rambly again before posting, the lack of clarity is why you're under suspicion.

DORMIO GET YOUR VIGILANTE BEHIND BACK IN HERE AND ANSWER PEOPLE'S DEMANDS.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #758 on:** June 11, 2011, 09:46:49 AM »

##Unvote

Sorry for not posting much yesterday, also to say other than this moment of durr with dormio, I'd expect some really freaky weird power to go with the likes of the flavor, UK did say that flavor and roll really don't have much to do with eachother, but still a few items can be derived from them, as LLD's time powers are related to the role of Dio, if Dormio is Gio Gio then something like a vig to treestump thing isn't absurdly farfetched, still crazy, but crazy enough for me to pull off for now.

##Vote: Chaore

Currently between Chaore and Affinity, I'm leaning towards Chaore.

Anything that one could really have on Chaore is from the actions and slip-ups of ActionDan, which does still linger in the air. When things were first uncertain, he was tempted to have a no-lynch/lynch a non-player for the sake of 'testing' when really it just gives more time for scum to get more points, which even at that point at least one or two people would have noticed that each day equals points, so more time wasted equals more kills gained for scum. There was his case on shadoweh based on an earlier flipout due to dan's own idea of using the non-player lynch no-lynch thing.

Basically, I find Chaore scummy for ActionDan, and I find ActionDan scummy for the possibility of gaming the system of time and also his constant pursuit of a case on Shadoweh.

with the general lack of anything outside the norm for Affinity, ActionChaore tops my list now, though voting back to dormio is currently on a hairpin trigger.

Currently I'll be leaving in little over an hour for the next 8 hours or so, would it be to my advantage to just play my power for testing or hold? I'll be doing it anyways if I don't get a response before I leave for the sake of safety.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #759 on:** June 11, 2011, 10:01:17 AM »

I'd like you to activate it now, Anthy, and confirm in here that UK or one of the co-mods has confirmed you've done this so I'll know if you're lying about the timing. I'd like it to go off before you leave.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #760 on:** June 11, 2011, 10:13:38 AM »

I've sent the PM to UK, and the co mods Pesco and Bardiche, my power will activate at 6:45 AM, EST, Saturday, June 11th.

now I'm gonna enjoy breakfast and read over some notes before I head off and be gone for 8 hours, 4 for ACT 4 for a trip up to where I'll be for the most of the summer, I'll have internet when I get there.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #761 on:** June 11, 2011, 10:17:17 AM »

Re: LSD,
It seemed like a good idea at the time. (1am)
In other words, yes it was a terrible idea, and yay luck for it not working. Not much more I can say about the sending in the pre-kill.

As for looking at Chaore/ActionDan again.
ActionDan gives me a headache and what this.
Chaore makes much more sense than ActionDan.
Two things by Chaore that I really didn't like though are:
1) Putting Cutey Anthy to L-1 so quickly.
2) Using my roleclaim to push me as scum. Seems kind of lazy, if you ask me.
My most recent points against ActionDan were never addressed amidst ActionDan replacing out and stuff.
And Chaore, can you not make out any possible intent that ActionDan may have had for acting the way he did?

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #762 on:** June 11, 2011, 10:44:39 AM »

I am heading out in a few minutes, sorry if this is an inconvence to you shadoweh, when it's noon EST I'll possibly be able to get on, not 100% certain though.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #763 on:** June 11, 2011, 10:50:02 AM »

That's fine, you can let us know if you have confirmation at noon Anthy, I will be upset if you don't confirm this before the next Game Day begins though.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #764 on:** June 11, 2011, 11:13:39 AM »

Okay I'm apparently able to use cellphone internets here, and shadoweh I haven't gotten confirmation yet, and the most likely thing to happen is that it'll probably happen from 8 to 12 where I'll be testing. I might get in before end of day due to there being the possibility that the test might take a bit longer. I sent the PM to all three so a response should come soon enough

Bardiche · « **Reply #765 on:** June 11, 2011, 11:49:00 AM »

Lookit That, It's A Votecount!

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (2): LLD, Chaore
Chaore (2): Shadoweh, Anthony
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (1): Affinity
Affinity (0)

Not Voting (2): huh what, Dormio

Anthony is at L-2
Chaore is at L-2
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Game Day Ten Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Friday

Lexicat · « **Reply #766 on:** June 11, 2011, 03:56:36 PM »

Anthony's vote hop onto the Chaore wagon makes me want his flip even more.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #767 on:** June 11, 2011, 04:35:20 PM »

LLD well what's Your opinion on Chaore vs Dormio vote?

Also shadoweh, apparently day 1 doesn't count for points so I only got 90 now, not 100.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #768 on:** June 11, 2011, 04:38:21 PM »

For those not keeping track, that means no untouchable for today. :V

Pesco · « **Reply #769 on:** June 11, 2011, 05:52:39 PM »

I Forgot To Daychange Again Vote Count

Lady LambdaDelta (0)
Omba (0)
Anthony (2): LLD, Chaore
Chaore (2): Shadoweh, Anthony
Shadoweh (0)
Dormio (1): Affinity
Affinity (0)

Not Voting (2): huh what, Dormio

Anthony is at L-2
Chaore is at L-2
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Game Day Eleven Ends at 1:00 PM, EDT, Sunday

Lexicat · « **Reply #770 on:** June 11, 2011, 05:59:51 PM »

Quote from: Cutey Anthy on June 11, 2011, 04:35:20 PM

LLD well what's Your opinion on Chaore vs Dormio vote?

Also shadoweh, apparently day 1 doesn't count for points so I only got 90 now, not 100.

Chaore is voting you. Dormio isn't voting anyone.

If the two competing wagons are You vs. Dormio, Dormio will be forced into voting for you.

Switching onto the wagon of Chaore who was already voting you creates the same size counter wagon, and gives you a greater chance of not being lynched.

As town, you wouldn't be voting hopping so much.

But as scum, there is the self preservation intent that hides behind your vote change.

And your reasons for changing your vote weren't all that great. Nothing in there explains why Dormio is suddenly MORE town than Chaore.

Combine that with the fact that I read Dormio as scummier than Chaore, and I've got a problem with that vote you just laid down.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #771 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:08:38 PM »

1: I believe Anthy's roleclaim. If it were fake he wouldn't have realized on his own he didn't have enough points. Thanks for no one else clearing that up for him! I never bothered to use my power on him yet.
2: Dormio's claim is town and completely consistent with his play to me.
3: I want to hear Chaore's roleclaim now and see if it's consistent with his and Dan's play.

Anthy's votehop was uhm.. how do I put this.. I think the word is scummy. I think he's following my vote because I am awesome.

ES-Anthy · « **Reply #772 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:12:48 PM »

Soo you're placing my entire reasoning into a big OMGUS? Even though my reasoning for him has been consistent, that covers pretty much ActionDan. With that if you want my reasoning, I said because of his role, with the talk of roles springing up, I thought it over and I realized this would be something in a mafia game done by UK and based on JJBA. Sure it's based on a possibly bad role claim but other than durrmio I didn't really have much for voting him over chaore.

With that, haven't you ever had a situation where you keep on going back and forth with choices trying to find the most pleasing one yourself?

Also shadoweh I can activate my power now since now I should have 100 points :derp:

Chaore · « **Reply #773 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:18:50 PM »

@Dormio: Like I've said to shadoweh, I have no idea what he was on to think voting shadoweh was a good idea. I have his role, not his mind, luckily enough. And as for the first day no one talking thing- I don't look at day 1 much. There is a reason for that. I certainly wouldn't put Day 1 at much more than a penny myself. Dunno what the hell for the tunnel thing.

The 'No-lynch' thing is... To summarize, I am busy ramming my head into my hands because I -can- explain that. However this is because of information I have at the moment that I'd rather not get out publicly quite yet.

@Shadoweh: I... I am tempted to claim because I really have so much to say right now in regards to that.

I can claim today, but I will say things will probably have ended up going -vastly- better off if I had not, if the game does not end today.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #774 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:20:56 PM »

Well, I want to kill you dead, huh what wanted you dead when the day started, and Dormio and Anthy aren't likely to vote their own wagons, so.. yeah, I'd like to hear what you got.

Chaore · « **Reply #775 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:30:32 PM »

I am Josuke Higashikata, Town Doctor. My stand is Crazy Diamond.

I have two powers, the first is a standard protect that lasts 4 days and only protects against kills. It costs a whooping 50 points, so as of right now I only have two charges to use for the next mafia kill.

The second is a patently absurd ##PROTECT EVERYONE, which protects -fucking everyone- from dying for the next 4 days. The downside is that it requires a whooping -150 points-, so unless say we drew out the game, I would normally have no chance to properly use it with enough people to be worth it.

##Protect Everyone is probably why Action Dan wanted a no lynch- To end days faster, get more points, and get them while more people are alive. This of course is a stupid plan and really ##Protect Everyone is basically a safety net for town if they somehow managed to fuck up and miss getting lynches in before scum killed for well, 16 nights in a row.

As for why Action Dan didn't immediately counter-claim Schezo, I imagine he didn't think it was worth it. Why he didn't immediately vote SCHEZO I honestly don't know, but I'm going to say it is likely because he was running out the door when he posted that and didn't stop to realize that HE was the fucking doctor.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #776 on:** June 11, 2011, 06:41:56 PM »

I... I think I need some time to absorb how completely absurb that claim is. I.. what?

First of all, Dan didn't just want to no-lynch, he wanted to lynch a non-player in the first 24 hours. Unless he got points per lynch that wouldn't make sense.

Secondly, you're saying he.. seriously.. seriously.. tried to push a lynch.. on capt.h instead of Schezo.. when Schezo claimed his own role.

Okay, so, ah, what do you think of Anthy's role now that you've revealed what yours is?

Chaore · « **Reply #777 on:** June 11, 2011, 07:03:53 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on June 11, 2011, 06:41:56 PM

I... I think I need some time to absorb how completely absurb that claim is. I.. what?

First of all, Dan didn't just want to no-lynch, he wanted to lynch a non-player in the first 24 hours. Unless he got points per lynch that wouldn't make sense.

Secondly, you're saying he.. seriously.. seriously.. tried to push a lynch.. on capt.h instead of Schezo.. when Schezo claimed his own role.

Okay, so, ah, what do you think of Anthy's role now that you've revealed what yours is?

Again, I think he expected that -would- happen as it would bring us to the next day or something. I am not expecting Action Dan was particularly bright enough to think this all the way through, just thinking 'hmm hey if we don't lynch and we go to day 16 i can protect errybody this plan is FLAWLESSSSS~'.

The second, I... Yes, really my only explanation is that he was hurried and didn't want to counterclaim. I am not going to say he handled the situation well -at fucking all-. I have a few issues with him for after game, really!

What I think? Well let's be honest. Both you and I are capable of outright stopping the mafia kill. Huhwhat is capable of redirecting the mafia kill. Anthony would be a fourth person capable of completely screwing the mafia kill up, which is a bit of a large number. At that, her claim does have a BIG use as far as being on scum- Using it means only I can screw her out of the mafia kill, if she were scum. I do not adequately believe, if it were -proven- that her claim makes her impossible to be Scum, as there is honestly a VERY strong use for it on scum with the roles in play. The ability to make the mafia kill -actually go through- late game like this is important, and I honestly doubt that UK would deprive scum of at least -one- way to make that more likely to happen.

Lexicat · « **Reply #778 on:** June 11, 2011, 07:17:08 PM »

Ugh...

Shadoweh, help me out here. Would scum have a repeater and a global action doctor?

Would scum have a GLOBAL ACTION DOCTOR?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #779 on:** June 11, 2011, 07:31:25 PM »

That makes alot of sense to me.

##Unvote

I don't know if I can believe all these claims are possible. It makes me believe Dormio even more though.

Lambda: The 150 power is useless. By the time he would have enough points to use it, he could just use the 50 point protects to protect the players left in the game. It sounds completely within the scope of UK's sense of humor. The thing about Repeater is we have no idea if Schezo was telling the truth or lying scum.