Author Topic: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure  (Read 43369 times)

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #270 on: May 20, 2011, 06:49:31 PM »
Hadn't thought of that. I doubt it, but it's certainly possible, and all the more reason not to gather the gems until we've solved this.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #271 on: May 20, 2011, 07:27:35 PM »
The Turkish release of Nue Quest is indefinitely delayed

> Goddamit, Purvis.
> Will the Turkish release of any of your quests be available any time soon?
> Not that I care, I'm Brazillian :getdown:

On a more serious note, though:

The "gems are the money" theory seems pretty plausible because this is Gensokyo and common sense sucks. However, I'll have to agree that getting everybody up at the bar and giving them cheaper drinks is a bad bad idea, like it was said, we'd have to work all day (and a lot harder than normal too!), could we ask someone doing this for us? Yes. Would they refuse? Gee, what do you think? They might be Oni, but in a way, they are still people, with real emotions and everything, wouldn't YOU get pissed if you got called "chucklehead", specially after such a stressing situation? Same thing, would you be up to work around ALL DAY (Something that was already stated that does NOT happen, because we are the only ones to actually run the pub open-to-close) on a crowded pub with a bunch of people who could pretty much kick your ass in two seconds, just for some cheap drinks?

So yeah, I say we just go back, grab a few spellcards, make a mental note to create Unknown Girl, just for the hell of it and go find the culprit.

Also, since I'm bored:

>"Everybody! Don't panic! This is an unprecedent serious affair! Please wait warmly while Nue prepares!"
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 07:34:49 PM by Sacchimon »

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #272 on: May 20, 2011, 08:03:21 PM »
They might be Oni, but in a way, they are still people, with real emotions and everything, wouldn't YOU get pissed if you got called "chucklehead",

They're big girls, and "chucklehead" is, at worst, a pg-13 insult. Nobody's feelings are going to get hurt.

And fightest, that's not enough to prove it was a rabbit who did this.

Oh please, don't start splitting hares over this. The street-ear said "rabbit type." That is a very specific turn of phrase, and she would not use it in a circumstance when the person in question was not a rabbit.

Regardless, I must have made the wrong conclusion when I assumed that people would want to make a load of money without having to put in any effort. Proceed as you will.

Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #273 on: May 20, 2011, 08:28:35 PM »
Quote
Also, you haven't presented a way to stop the riot, so less ironic eye-rolling at me, thank you very much.
I already did, you just decided to ignore it.

That said, the selling drinks idea is a far better idea than the Looney Toons he-went-thataway idea or the cause a riot idea, though you'll have to work to sell the idea to them first: Nue's one of the few people trained to know the value of gems, and the oni still need to pay rent, protection, food, et cetera. Also, it wouldn't be a good idea to open the bar, then leave it in the hands of our helpers (assuming we can round them up in a matter of hours), at least not initially: the helpers will need some time to get used to the values of the gems, and there's undoubtedly going to be issues for at least the first day. We'll have to be there for at least one day to set up the system and ensure that it's running smoothly before letting them go at it (or until the other taverns wise up and adopt the same system, which would help in the whole "set up a gem based currency" idea).

That has a upside to it: it'll be a lot easier for K to get into contact with us, and if it helps stop destruction and violence in K's area, then it'll give us points in K's books.
>"Right, I said what I have to say."
>To the guard: "Might be a good idea to have people keep tabs until we have the money back."
>Get out of there. Deva K's people probably know how to handle a crowd of angry oni much better than we do; we'd likely just get in the way.
>Return to the tavern.
> Don't do this yet.

E posted a bunch of questions, which I want to see the responses, and I think opening the bar and accepting gems has some merit. It'll cost us at least a day's worth of time, yes, but it's far better than being the ignition for a riot and just bailing.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #274 on: May 20, 2011, 08:39:18 PM »
> Fly up just above the lackey, yell at the top of our lungs at crowd:
> "Hey, chuckleheads! We got this! For time being, I'm accepting those stones you've got as cash for booze, with discount, and it's staying that way until problems are fixed! Just let K alone so she can figure stuff out!"

> Don't do or say this.

> Do do and say this.


>Do do this.

>"Right, I said what I have to say."
>To the guard: "Might be a good idea to have people keep tabs until we have the money back."
>Get out of there. Deva K's people pprobably know how to handle a crowd of angry oni much better than we do; we'd likely just get in the way.
>Return to the tavern.

>Don't jump on anything yet, especially calling a gang of angry oni "chuckleheads"
>Are oni more or less rambunctious when liquored up?
>How frequent are riots/gang fights in the city, and how significant are the consequences?
>Do we have any idea whether it's possible to hire (de facto) mercenaries on the surface, and/or how quickly such people could be mustered?
>Is the ancient city a libertarian paradise

I> Don't do this yet.


>You have a very powerful war against your greed, your pragmatism, your desire to fix this situation, and your knowledge of the situation.
>Calling angry oni even childish names may or may not be a good idea; you imagine most would take it in stride, through.
>Oni react to liquor about like any species would. Overall, a crowd of particularly drunken oni is more likely to be troublesome than a crowd of normal oni, which may or may not be lightly drunk on the whole.
>Gang fights are about like rain; sometimes you get them for a week straight and sometimes you can go weeks without one. They can incur a fair amount of property damage, but usually they stay to the streets. Riots do happen, they tend to happen on the scale of years or decades. Then those occur, you've learned the best thing is to barricade the doors and windows and hope for the best. Typically large portions of the city get devastated; the infamous burn out district when the evil spirits dwell now is the result of a riot some time ago.  You've had to rebuild twice in the past as a result of one; thankfully the building itself was left standing both times.
>You imagine there's a fair deal of youkai that would do muscle work for the right price. You're pretty certain both the Red White and the Black White could be bought, too, if the job didn't look too suspicious.
>Benevolent dictatorship/anarchy.



> How do we compare to Yuugi strength-wise?  Not physically, but in danmaku.

>You really aren't sure. You know Yuugi tends to hold back, and you've never faced her. But, you're pretty sure that at your best, you can take her. You are not sure how far below your best you can slip before that changes.

> Inventory
> How far are we from the pub?

>Your inventory contains:
>Black dress
>A short number that draws attention low, and has a lovely bit of frills around the neck. It's made to accommodate your wings, and is is quite stretchy, very useful when you need to change shapes on the fly.
>Black Stockings
>They keep your legs warm and clean. They can stretch to accommodate some shape changes.
>Black Bracelet
>A simple accessory that plays off the asymmetric of your natural form.
>Red shoes
>A cute pair of shoes that stand out against your stockings.
>Rose Quartz x2
>A common gem with a pinkish hue. Worth about 15-25☼.
>Black Pearl x2
>A rare and precious kind of pearl, easily worth 100-130☼.
>Red Spinel x2
>A lovely but low value gem that the uninitiated may mistake for a ruby. Worth 50-80☼.
>You are only a few minutes away from your pub by foot if you move quickly.
>Green Glass Bead x6
>Cheaply made, but kind of pretty.

>_
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 09:12:21 PM by It's Purvis! »

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #275 on: May 20, 2011, 08:50:25 PM »
However, I'll have to agree that getting everybody up at the bar and giving them cheaper drinks is a bad bad idea, like it was said, we'd have to work all day (and a lot harder than normal too!), could we ask someone doing this for us? Yes. Would they refuse? Gee, what do you think?
I think they would accept, because this is a thing that we have been told specifically that we have asked of people and they have done for us. Sect has a point though about helpers needing to be taught gem values. I think just skipping off in general is a bad idea. Spending the day solving the incident, coming back and finding everything smashed because the oni rampaged would be bad. The oni riot should be considered part of the incident that we need to solve. It's not our fault if we make some profit or get in K's good graces with it..

> Add Quest: Demonic Suppression! The oni are restless and we should do something about it! Something that isn't destroying our bar again!

Well, here are the three theories I considered:
1: One person snuck through the entire city sneaking into people's houses, stealing all their money and replacing it with gems of equivalent value, and snuck out of the city with a giant bag of money.
2: An army of someones snuck through the entire city doing the above without being noticed.
3: One tricksy rabbit snuck underground, placed some magical doodads, and all currency got turned into gems of the same value.

One of these seems more likely then the other, especially if the same problem is happening above ground. We can probably figure this out right now.

> Ask the crowd of oni's if any change they had in their pockets was also turned into gems or clear beads.
> What exactly is our money made of, including all denominations?


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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #276 on: May 20, 2011, 08:57:08 PM »
> Ask the crowd of oni's if any change they had in their pockets was also turned into gems or clear beads.
> What exactly is our money made of, including all denominations?
First one's not very good, mostly because we just don't have that much time to ask before things get bad. Plus, I think I recall one of the oni showing us her own gems: I'll need to look back to find that. I'm not quite sure what the second one's asking, though, that does remind me of something.

> Don't we also have some colored beads that we found in our room?

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #277 on: May 20, 2011, 08:59:05 PM »
I'm asking what materials Gensokyo money is made of :p
And I think we have enough time for one question. If not we can just ask after the riot is dealt with. If the answer is yes I think it adds credence to my theory. Also, the fact that our spare change randomly hidden in our room was replaced too.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 09:04:23 PM by Shadoweh »


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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #278 on: May 20, 2011, 09:00:38 PM »
Ah, okay. I thought you meant our current money.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #279 on: May 20, 2011, 09:21:52 PM »
> Add Quest: Demonic Suppression! The oni are restless and we should do something about it! Something that isn't destroying our bar again!
> Ask the crowd of oni's if any change they had in their pockets was also turned into gems or clear beads.
> What exactly is our money made of, including all denominations?

>You add a quest!
>You pose a question to the crowd, but they seem to be too busy shouting to really answer. You'll need to grab their attention.
>It's made out of just about any kind of precious metal that can be worked. Gold, silver, copper, platinum, aluminum (though this has fallen out of use in the past couple centuries), just about any kind of precious metal.

>_

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #280 on: May 20, 2011, 09:31:58 PM »
So am I the only one that thinks the gems ARE the money and all the money underground was transmuted into gems? >.>

Well, it's either that or someone's using seeds of non-identification to fuck with everyone.

I stand corrected about the scope of the riot problem, however.
There was something here once. Wonder what...

Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #281 on: May 20, 2011, 09:39:40 PM »
Well, it's either that or someone's using seeds of non-identification to fuck with everyone.
Oops, sorry, completely forgot about "Nue Quest: Day 0". :blush:

Anyways, let's go ahead with the drinks idea, since that seems to be the best idea we have so far. I'll start it off, continue/edit as needed.

> To K's lackey: "Hey, I'll get them off your back for you."
> Fly upwards, and fire a danmaku burst in the sky to grab everyone's attention. "Hey! All you listen up! Deva K is trying to deal with the whole money situation, so while she does that, the Rose and Weasel will be opening shortly, and we will accept gems and beads!"

We can hammer out the details, I think. You know, pricing, exchange, how to get our helpers over here, et cetera.

And Shou's still the culprit.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #282 on: May 20, 2011, 09:58:43 PM »
> To K's lackey: "Hey, I'll get them off your back for you."
> Fly upwards, and fire a danmaku burst in the sky to grab everyone's attention. "Hey! All you listen up! Deva K is trying to deal with the whole money situation, so while she does that, the Rose and Weasel will be opening shortly, and we will accept gems and beads!"

>You don't know if Kay's lackey really heard or not.
>You take to the air and let out an lovely display of danmaku. This certainly gets some attention; and have to dodge a bit of scattered return fire from below. Thankfully, that dies away a bit, as you make your announcement. The crowd reaction seems fairly mixed; some vocalizations are clearly pleased about it, and others are less impressed.

>_

Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #283 on: May 20, 2011, 10:03:12 PM »
>_> All right, in retrospect I should've added a caveat asking for Purv to wait until at least two or three other people made their own comments.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #284 on: May 20, 2011, 10:36:29 PM »
This might be reading ona phone talking, but when we were presented two plans to get the gems, one that wastes time and alcohol and one that does not, why did we choose the former?
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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #285 on: May 20, 2011, 10:41:24 PM »
This might be reading ona phone talking, but when we were presented two plans to get the gems, one that wastes time and alcohol and one that does not, why did we choose the former?
Mostly because I jumped the gun and didn't take precautions. :/ That, and the only other plan I noticed was "bail and hope everything turns out all right", which I don't think is what you're referring to.

EDIT: In other news, I'm reasonably sure at this point that the gems are not coins transmuted into gems: if it were, then there would be a wider variety of gems in the petty cash box, since that box was explicitly to make change with.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 11:22:26 PM by Twelve Parsects »

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #286 on: May 20, 2011, 11:58:53 PM »
Humor me and ask around anyways :P I theorize that groups of coins left together just formed larger, more valuable gems.
And it's too late now! Go with it! I'm not much of a crowd talker though, so.. gluck! ^_^b


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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #287 on: May 21, 2011, 12:36:06 AM »
This might be reading ona phone talking, but when we were presented two plans to get the gems, one that wastes time and alcohol and one that does not, why did we choose the former?

The former is uncertain and hinges on a major assumption. The latter involves minimal effort and only costs us a little bit of money in the short term.

> "We're selling by the bottle as well, to keep and take home! Also we've got a limited-time bulk discount, first come, first served!"
> Gauge crowd response from additional revelations.
> If over 3/4 of the crowd are interested, seriously consider heading back to the bar.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #288 on: May 21, 2011, 12:45:37 AM »
> "We're selling by the bottle as well, to keep and take home! Also we've got a limited-time bulk discount, first come, first served!"
> Gauge crowd response from additional revelations.
> If over 3/4 of the crowd are interested, seriously consider heading back to the bar.

>You make more announcements, and gauge the crowd. Overall, they seem to be paying attention to you. You can't really tell who is interested and is just listening, but you seem to have momentarily blunted some of the general anger.

>_

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #289 on: May 21, 2011, 01:35:06 AM »
Fightest: One also is greedy while moving along in the intended spirit of the game and one is greedy while spitting in the face of the intended purpose of the game.

If you want to make money that badly, that's fine, but it shouldn't be coming at the expense of acknowledging the real issue.
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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #290 on: May 21, 2011, 02:02:20 AM »
This is now Nue Market Z-Machine where the goal is to take over the economy and make Nue Enterprises into a multi-million dollar corporation. No honestly allowed! Seriously saying something isn't in the spirit of the game when any interactions can be beneficial to everyone's goals is a little mean-spirited Kilga. I believe this will help us find out more in the long-run. Bartenders always get to hear the juciest secrets.


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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #291 on: May 21, 2011, 02:28:00 AM »
You know, that's a point I hadn't considered. *Changes his mind again*

Also:

Oh please, don't start splitting hares over this. The street-ear said "rabbit type." That is a very specific turn of phrase, and she would not use it in a circumstance when the person in question was not a rabbit.

Fine, I'll rephrase: the fact that a streatear let someone into our bar is not enough to prove that said person is the culprit. I know it was a rabbit that she let in; what I'm saying is that we don't have proof that said rabbit is the one responsible.

Also, gathering the gems is fine, but remember: the oni are going to want their money back. And I say we give it to them once we find it. A: we don't want a horde of angry oni after us, and B: we can make more than enough by selling the gems, as I mentioned previously.

Anyways:

>Head back to the tavern and open it up for business.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #292 on: May 21, 2011, 02:40:23 AM »
>Head back to the tavern and open it up for business.

>You decide to get while the gettin's good. It is a valuable skill for anyone, but in particular for crowd manipulation.
>You head back to the bar, and find it's still intact, and no violence has swept through the area yet. You quickly get the tavern ready to open, which largely involves making sure the glasses are clean and the bottles are ready to go.
>It doesn't take long for a couple oni, two of medium height and build, one with short blonde hair and two long twisted horns and another with long dark hair and two curled horns. "Lo," says one of them, "So you're takin' rocks an' stuff, right?"

>_

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #293 on: May 21, 2011, 02:42:06 AM »
>"Yeah. What'll you be having?"

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #294 on: May 21, 2011, 02:47:29 AM »
>"Yeah. What'll you be having?"

>The blonde slams a handful of green beads on the bar. "Whatever that'll get."
>"You're taking rocks, you said?" says the other oni.

>_

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #295 on: May 21, 2011, 03:04:19 AM »
>"Yeah."
>Take a look at the gems the first oni put down. What's their approximate value?
>What are our minimum, mean, median, and maximum prices?

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #296 on: May 21, 2011, 03:10:23 AM »
>"Yeah."
>Take a look at the gems the first oni put down. What's their approximate value?
>What are our minimum, mean, median, and maximum prices?

>They're little glass beads, you wouldn't pay more than 1☼ for one; and you've quickly expect a bulk discount on them.  There are eight of them.
>You prices vary wildly based on what you're selling. Cheap sake is about 5☼ for a small bottle, while the good stuff can go up in the the hundreds per bottle.
>"Right, I found one of these," says the dark-haired oni, as she puts a stone on the counter. It seems to be a loose cobblestone from one of the roads. "I'll take whatever it'll get."

>_

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #297 on: May 21, 2011, 03:15:36 AM »
>"That looks like a cobblestone. Did you find this in place of money, or did you just pick it up outside somewhere?"
>To the first one: "Got it."
>Find something in the 10☼ range and offer it to her.

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #298 on: May 21, 2011, 03:21:43 AM »
>"That looks like a cobblestone. Did you find this in place of money, or did you just pick it up outside somewhere?"
>To the first one: "Got it."
>Find something in the 10☼ range and offer it to her.

>"In that alley over there," says the oni. "You said rocks. That's a right proper one right there.
>You give the blond oni a small bottle of cheap, decent quality sake.
>You obtain: Green Glass Bead x8

>_

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Re: Nue Quest: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #299 on: May 21, 2011, 03:27:56 AM »
>Hmm...
>Well, it's not like they just put down random rocks. Proper cobblestone takes a bit more than that.
>Also, probably shouldn't risk angering the oni.
>"Well, it is a proper cobblestone. I'm not taking just any random rocks, but that's a bit more than just a random rock."
>Still a rock, though. Hand her a fairly cheap bottle.