Author Topic: Minecraft Server! (IMPORTANT POLL VOTE NOW)  (Read 150428 times)

Jes_Isaive

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #150 on: June 06, 2011, 06:02:26 AM »
It tells us how many people are on it now?! 8D

Oh, and I don't need that gold anymore, that entire tunnel I made got removed when the rollback happened, so I'll just find another way to get to that hub.
A giant water-slide you say...? Why, it's so crazy it just might work...

Eraiya

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #151 on: June 06, 2011, 09:01:00 AM »
What if I helped remake the tunnel, too? All I need to know is where you want it + its dimensions!

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #152 on: June 06, 2011, 10:03:19 AM »
Guys, why is there no giant community tower outfitted with cannons and anti-mob defenses where we spawn?
And one in the nether too?

Eraiya

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #153 on: June 06, 2011, 11:12:19 AM »
Because there's no such thing as sentries that can track the movement of nearby players or hostile enemies, then open fire on them. At least without mods, of course. :3

The best defense against a problem is to stop the problem from ever happening in the first place. Need to be protected from mobs? Stop 'em from ever spawning nearby with the power of torches.

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #154 on: June 06, 2011, 11:19:08 AM »
The lack of TNT is still unnerving though.
We obviously need cannons.

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #155 on: June 06, 2011, 01:05:46 PM »
The lack of TNT is still unnerving though.
We obviously need cannons.

THEN HELP ME FINISH MY MOB GRINDER!!!!!!!

Eraiya

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #156 on: June 06, 2011, 01:22:14 PM »
They do a lot more harm than good to the terrain- and if we're talking near spawn, whoo boy, you can expect to accidentally blow up at least one person's building through trial and error, and that's no good- and can only aim at a predefined spot. It's like being able to attack a creeper with a bow and arrow, but you have to hold perfectly still. You can't adjust your aim either by looking elsewhere, or by moving your body. The creeper has to walk into your cross-hairs. Also, between the time you click to fire your shots and the time those shots are actually fired, there's a seven second waiting period. So, you have to wait for the creeper to walk into your cross-hairs then politely ask it to hold still while you kill it and hope it complies.

But wait, there's more! Making anywhere from one to several mob grinders for gunpowder gathering isn't much of a problem, but here's yet another: someone has to constantly be willing to just sit there and man the cannons all night. If they're not using a mod like Zombe's sun control mod, I hope they've got not just the patience to sit still for hours on a video game they could otherwise be having more fun on, but also sharp enough eyes to spot the enemies out in the darkness.

TL;DR For all of the reasons listed above and more, TNT cannons are a highly impractical solution to the hostile-enemies-at-spawn problem. Personally, I've taken on well over one hundred creepers with nothing more than a sword and come out victorious, sometimes even fighting multiple enemies simultaneously. After you make a set of armor, as long as it has at least 30% durability left, the world's yours.
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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #157 on: June 06, 2011, 01:34:57 PM »
But explosives are fun! I built an adjustable, aimable cannon before, and it's fun. Not useful, but I can hit basically any target I want with only a 5 or 10 second delay between acquiring the target and it exploding. I wouldn't want one at spawn, though...

Anyway, a shelter at spawn would be much more practical. Harvest some wood and put it in a chest in the shelter so newcomers can build a basic sword and pick before getting spawn-trapped by creepers like I did. Maybe include armor too? That's a lot harder to make, though.

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #158 on: June 06, 2011, 01:42:51 PM »
Whelp, I lost all I was doing on my trap the last few days. Also, I'm gonna need those rewards from the server event again.

128 Arrows, 1 iron block, 1 diamond block, 1 gold block, 19 netherrack, and some other things I don't remember....

Eraiya

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #159 on: June 06, 2011, 02:09:26 PM »
But explosives are fun! I built an adjustable, aimable cannon before, and it's fun. Not useful, but I can hit basically any target I want with only a 5 or 10 second delay between acquiring the target and it exploding. I wouldn't want one at spawn, though...

Neato! If I took a trip over to YT, could I find a video of how the adjustable, aimable ones work?

Anyway, a shelter at spawn would be much more practical. Harvest some wood and put it in a chest in the shelter so newcomers can build a basic sword and pick before getting spawn-trapped by creepers like I did. Maybe include armor too? That's a lot harder to make, though.

Already working on it. :3 Unfortunately, fire spread is enabled, so smooth stone and glass it is, rather than using logs/planks. Placing it over a cave system near the surface, then artificially connecting it to others that it's separated from by stone to make it larger than it originally was. It'll be connected to the shelter, but separated with at least one hatch, and at least one airlock system. Aside from that, it'll be left untouched- I.E, no torches, and I'll avoid mining any ores when possible- to help give new players something to do, especially while waiting out the night! Edit: Oh, and I figure I'll hide a portal to the Nether somewhere at its deepest point. :>

Whelp, I lost all I was doing on my trap the last few days.

If you don't receive them within 24 hours, let me know, and I'd be happy to donate all of that!

Jes_Isaive

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #160 on: June 06, 2011, 02:22:18 PM »
What if I helped remake the tunnel, too? All I need to know is where you want it + its dimensions!
I hadn't really planned it out, other than "If I dig in roughly this direction, I should eventually make it there, right?"

A portal is always a workable solution too.

Eraiya

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #161 on: June 06, 2011, 02:41:22 PM »
Ooh, yes- two portals sounds like an even better idea! I'm on now if you want to do any of this!

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #162 on: June 06, 2011, 02:51:05 PM »
Sounds very interesting!

In the meantime I'm stuck with trying to improve my situation now that I've made a settlement for myself. Cue the mass cave explorations and steel hunts!
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Jes_Isaive

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #163 on: June 06, 2011, 03:08:03 PM »
Ooh, yes- two portals sounds like an even better idea! I'm on now if you want to do any of this!
I'll be able to in an hour. School and such. I even have an idea of something to add to the gap portal itself...


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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #164 on: June 06, 2011, 04:51:27 PM »
Well, started playing on it yesterday, set up a base (a bit to the east of ShadyK's), and am enjoying it, certainly!

Though I did notice one thing. It's a bit hard to get started (for new players) from the main spawn, and requires a crapton of walking to find trees or a safehouse. I almost resorted to digging a temporary dark hole in the ground for the night (but then DDR teleported me to his base for that night and assisted with the construction of mine the night after) after searching the main plain area for a good number of trees.

Earlier today, Artemis, who had lost all his things over various changes, also had similar problems and died a few times to mobs. He sent a few requests for assistance in chat, which I responded to. Led him to my base for the night and gave a stack of planks and coal to get him along.

So what am I suggesting here? Well, what Azure said. I'd include stacks of wood/planks and some charcoal, but armour and others are a bit of a stretch.
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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #165 on: June 06, 2011, 05:36:18 PM »
When I originally started I had a little trouble with having enough wood to get going, but I found some. cave wise I just occupied a creeper crater and got digging. The result is pretty decent, though understated above ground.

Started exploring for cactus, and I can't find shit. more to the point, I can't find where the fuck I am. I did /sethome, but I'm reluctant to use /home ... because the place I found is just flat out awesome. Its an underwater cave mouth big enough to build inside. Which, I am doing. get some awesome views too because it points in the sun/moon direction, so you can watch a sunrise/moon rise through the cave. Its just brilliant, and I don't want to be unable to find it again.  :blush:

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #166 on: June 06, 2011, 06:27:18 PM »
The adjustable cannon works by simply having multiple places to load the shot TNT and the propulsion TNT. There's probably tutorials and designs on YouTube that are way better than mine, so I won't go into any more detail unless you really want it.

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #167 on: June 06, 2011, 07:03:21 PM »
Well, yesterday DDR and Jes had imported another sprite (Reimu this time) into the world. Didn't see it until today, though, after finding Jes' place while exploring.







There was also a small chest acting as a donation box nearby. Gave a bit. :3

Yet another interesting development! Took a while to get over there, though. so I built a long causeway above ground to shorten the commute. Don't mind removing it if requested by a good number, but I find it convenient.
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Jes_Isaive

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #168 on: June 06, 2011, 07:20:04 PM »
Oh right I meant to post pictures of this. Which I had almost no hand in.
Like I said at the time, I need to make a Nitori sprite, then make that portal connecting my house to the hub, and then finish my house. Fun times. :3

pineyappled

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #169 on: June 06, 2011, 09:05:47 PM »
Requesting Yuuka and Mokou.

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #170 on: June 06, 2011, 09:43:47 PM »
Okay people I went on a dangerous adventure and found yall some cacti  :D (those treasure hunting games in sonic adventure 2 paid off!)  But uh yeah eraiya built this safehouse with some public chests.  In there is 64 cacti.  Make sure you kids share it  :V
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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #171 on: June 06, 2011, 09:54:18 PM »
Okay people I went on a dangerous adventure and found yall some cacti  :D (those treasure hunting games in sonic adventure 2 paid off!)  But uh yeah eraiya built this safehouse with some public chests.  In there is 64 cacti.  Make sure you kids share it  :V
Was there a Cactus Locator at the bottom of your screen beeping? :D

OK better find the house then (X-Z coordinates would be helpful).
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Jes_Isaive

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #172 on: June 06, 2011, 09:59:02 PM »
Requesting Yuuka and Mokou.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFine. I'll probably do Yuuka first, after Nitori that is. Good thing someone found some cacti. :3

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #173 on: June 06, 2011, 10:52:52 PM »
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFine. I'll probably do Yuuka first, after Nitori that is. Good thing someone found some cacti. :3
I'll try to grow a few (along with wheat and sugarcane) as well in my area and occasionally send them over to the community chest.
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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #174 on: June 07, 2011, 01:42:56 AM »
What plans is the mob grinder going by?
> Going to also wire up a bank system. A big one.

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #175 on: June 07, 2011, 02:29:39 AM »
I already have the canals dug out, and the first spawning floor done. HOWEVER, due to the troll 1.6 patch, the half finished second floor has to be moved down 1 meter, and the unfinished roof made of halfblocks also has to be moved down 1 meter. Roof is on the highest height possible, and covers the whole section where the grinder is. The second floor should be exactly above the first floor. I can build the gravity trap but I need some redstone before I do it.

Meanwhile, in the north east corner, there is the ladder to the top and the ladder to the mines. The mines is split up into floors every 10 meters. In each floor, I dig the border of the entire structure, and those have torches on the outside wall, pointing inside the structure. Essentially, this is to clear out all caverns under the grinder, and light them all up (So far I've found a few big ones). The first 3 floors already have the outline, but nobody touch the floors that aren't finished. If you go into the mine, you can keep anything you find in it except 95% of the cobblestone you find, as long as you dig inside the border.
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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #176 on: June 07, 2011, 03:30:53 AM »
Where is this community chest anyway? I could use some cacti, I had something on the go...  :3

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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #177 on: June 07, 2011, 04:24:23 AM »
Where is this community chest anyway? I could use some cacti, I had something on the go...  :3
It's in that smooth stone-glass building near DDR's safehouse.

I'm farming extra cacti, wheat, and sugarcane and will put some into the community chests every now and then.

Also busy mapping the area.
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Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #178 on: June 07, 2011, 07:02:13 AM »
I mapped the place, doesn't look that interesting.

pineyappled

Re: Minecraft Server!
« Reply #179 on: June 07, 2011, 08:15:27 AM »
Just so you know, there's a pig spawner right outside my hole. Feel free to have a murderfest.
I'll put a chest full of porkchops in the community house later, but for now I just put in three raw ones.