Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F  (Read 201873 times)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #780 on: September 24, 2011, 04:53:45 AM »
Looks like a perfectly fine and balanced team. Your buffing capabilities are perfectly fine (don't forget that Kaguya also buffs). Before Iku was discovered, everyone was using Sanae as their offensive buffer anyway.

You have every element covered, although you're a bit weak on MYS with Giga Flare as your only real option. Eiki goes a long way towards solving any issues with elements, so that's not that big of a deal.

With Wriggle as a secondary tank, you would probably benefit more from developing Komachi as a dedicated attacker. Scythe that Chooses the Dead has a pretty good damage formula, and its relatively low delay for its power combined with Komachi's good HP means she can stay out to spam it while taking advantage of Miracle Fruit's boosts to both ATK and SPD.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #781 on: September 24, 2011, 06:01:14 PM »
With how much discussion, playthroughs and theory that's been done on this game, I'd really like to see how player battles could be like. It would be anything from 4v4 to 12v12.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #782 on: September 25, 2011, 10:47:01 AM »
I've been thinking. Is it actually possible to change the enemy pictures?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #783 on: September 26, 2011, 07:57:07 PM »
I've been thinking. Is it actually possible to change the enemy pictures?

I too wonder this.

I did have a crack at it and couldn't figure it out, but I'm hardly competent at this sort of thing. I get stumped unless everything is basically laid out for me.

While I'm at it, anyone know if you could change the names of the characters? I wouldn't even know where to begin with changing those, but I just like being able to change everything to my whim.  :V

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #784 on: September 27, 2011, 02:34:02 PM »
Curse... you... MARIBEL HAN!!!

I swear... she is a major troll... even though I can survive the first phase of the battle due to my team being ranged from level 93+.

However, when it comes down to the phase where she spawns Shredding Amnesieri, Aria-singing Toruastory ,and Staring Igmaruji.

I have to kick and scream my way through the fight ,although I do know the flaws of the 3 minions.

The part where Maribel goes berserk mode kills me.

Is there a way I can at least have a decent piece of mind... without having to worry about Maribel going ape on me?   :ohdear:

Edit:  Nevermind I just defeated Maribel myself ... and I got to say...

GAWD! WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS!  :getdown:

The battle turned into a "Who can spam moves better" war.  :derp:

The Results:



Maribel... you have won my respect BUT YOU'RE GOING ON MY RAGE LIST!!!!  :colonveeplusalpha:
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #785 on: September 27, 2011, 11:11:58 PM »
So I'm at Reimu lv230something. I know I can beat Celestial Bright Demon, but what about Yuuka? Or should I keep exploring 26F?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #786 on: September 27, 2011, 11:40:55 PM »
So I'm at Reimu lv230something. I know I can beat Celestial Bright Demon, but what about Yuuka? Or should I keep exploring 26F?
26F, huh? How much have you explored? Have you defeated Eiki yet? If so, then you should be able to defeat Yuuka.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #787 on: September 28, 2011, 01:26:48 AM »
Just reached her now, actually. I haven't tried fighting her yet.

Also it seems Reimu is lv244 now, after that exploring. (And Eirin finally broke 200... :derp: )

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #788 on: September 28, 2011, 02:58:51 AM »
Personally, I think Yuuka is a little easier than Shikieiki. Yuuka is not immune to debuffs/paralysis, doesn't bust out her insta-wipe nuke too early randomly, has exploitable elemental weaknesses, and might not even kill everyone with Master Spark if you've got Komachi with absurd MYS resistance.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #789 on: September 29, 2011, 03:12:23 AM »
so ya i just started this game and I'm at eintei.....
any strategies recommended to beat them?
I'm sure that someone already asked this question before, but give me a break.....
there are like 7 floors each with like 30 pages of comments...
it'll take FOREVER to read all that, and I have stuff to do (mostly touhou>schoolwork>other stuff)

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #790 on: September 29, 2011, 03:18:10 AM »
so ya i just started this game and I'm at eintei.....
any strategies recommended to beat them?
I'm sure that someone already asked this question before, but give me a break.....
there are like 7 floors each with like 30 pages of comments...
it'll take FOREVER to read all that, and I have stuff to do (mostly touhou>schoolwork>other stuff)
The eternal question. Many people have different approaches, but they mainly follow these lines:
-Keep Reisen paralyzed and kill her last.
-Try to kill Eirin and Kaguya at the same time, to avoid their devastating attacks if one falls before the other. Eirin has more HP than Kaguya, though.
-Limit debuffing the bosses, or Kaguya will counter with Buddha's Stone Bowl. You likely won't survive the full counterattack.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #791 on: September 29, 2011, 03:58:24 AM »
The eternal question. Many people have different approaches, but they mainly follow these lines:
-Keep Reisen paralyzed and kill her last.
-Try to kill Eirin and Kaguya at the same time, to avoid their devastating attacks if one falls before the other. Eirin has more HP than Kaguya, though.
-Limit debuffing the bosses, or Kaguya will counter with Buddha's Stone Bowl. You likely won't survive the full counterattack.

Now what I did was actually very different from that. (Admittedly, I may have been doing it all wrong) I focused on killing Reisen as quickly as possible, and debuffed and paralyzed the remaining two with Cirno.  Of course, I still tried to kill Kaguya and Eirin at the same time, that's basically a must do. I've never tried the other way though, so like I said, my strategy may be crap, and I may have only won because I was over-leveled or something.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #792 on: September 29, 2011, 05:33:08 AM »
I went into Eientei with no strategy other than 'don't debuff' (after trying for a week or so with relentless debuffing), and 'survived' Entombing twice by having Komachi out. Good times.  :V

Currently, I've done V2 boss rush (easy) and 22F boss (easier), in preparation for Yuuka. I'm thinking if Flandre is worth it, mostly because delaying the gauge is annoying even if Laevatein is absurdly powerful.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #793 on: September 29, 2011, 09:09:37 AM »
Personally I found Shikieiki way easier than Yuuka. It took me like 5 tries to take Yuuka down and never fell to Yama. Which is why I ditched the Rhododendron Dress but kept loading to nab the Gantz Suit.

As for Eientei, go for global PAR characters like Reimu, Komachi and Cirno and dedicated PAR chars like Suwako and even Yuugi. The fight never gave me trouble. Then again, I may be really lucky though since Reisen never got a turn, Kaguya only did 1 attack which did 1.5k t oa single member and Eirin did only 1 attack which did 0 to Yuugi.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #794 on: September 29, 2011, 06:23:43 PM »
Well... here's the shocking thing... I did  when I was fighting Eientei I used Suwako or  Yuugi, PAR for Eirin or Reisen then here's the twist use PSN on  Reisen and Eirin with either Yuugi or Wriggle and trust me don't PSN Kaguya yet.

Then keep damaging Kaguya, Reisen, and Eirin but mostly Reisen and Eirin, but don't kill Reisen because when Eirin goes to use Hourai Elixir she'll be busy trying to heal Reisen and will ignore Kaguya for who you will be poisoning after you think you have done enough damage to her.

Also, you should buff yourself too while you're at it with Ran and Sanae, also have Reimu to throw in her barrier move then when Eirin is busy healing Reisen use PSN  on Kaguya.

When you see Kaguya focus, hit her with either a buffed up Patchouli with Royal Flare or Silent Selene, Nitori's Gun move, or Yuugi's Knock Out in 3 Steps.

Mostly I had to be careful due to that I know they will go for trying to hurt you badly.

I also advise you on bringing in Tenshi to tank most of the hits with high affinity to all elements and resistance to all status effects trust me I had a great laugh when the Eientei crew kept doing 0 or little damage to my Tenshi.



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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #795 on: September 29, 2011, 09:57:46 PM »
As for Eientei, go for global PAR characters like Reimu, Komachi and Cirno and dedicated PAR chars like Suwako and even Yuugi.

Komachi's PAR comes with debuffs. And you don't want those.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #796 on: September 29, 2011, 10:00:51 PM »
But also with PSN.
Admittedly, she wasn't of too much use when I used her.
She was really only there as a Damagesponge.
I would've used Tenshi instead, but I was using most of my SKP on others who could get more use right away, like Reimu, who needed better survivability, or Yuugi, who needed more HP, STR, and etc.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #797 on: September 29, 2011, 11:56:22 PM »
Defeated Yuuka on my first try somehow  :o

I had lost all my tanks and basically anyone defensive when Yuuka finally decided to focus. My plan was that Komachi could survive Master Spark and switch in Flandre, who was the only nuker I had left. She nuked HARD, but I then I couldn't switch her out...

Fortunately, Flan barely outsped Yuuka and nuked again, finishing her.  :D

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #798 on: September 30, 2011, 06:21:16 PM »
Komachi's PAR comes with debuffs. And you don't want those.

I honestly don't quite remember if I used her or not, haha. But I'm 110% sure bout Kaguya and Eirin only getting one turn and that's it, never got another one.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #799 on: October 02, 2011, 02:52:34 AM »
My Eientei strategy is to start with Reimu, Cirno, Ran, and a tank. Reimu's there for PAR, of course, and Ran's there to buff ATK and MAG before switching out for Suwako, who's there to help hit the more-resistant Eirin and Kaguya with PAR. Cirno, meanwhile, uses Icicle Fall to debuff that pair's SPD. Reisen doesn't need to be hit with a SPD debuff since she stays paralyzed, and two debuffs doesn't trigger Buddha's Stone Bowl. With those two slowed, surviving becomes a lot easier. Reimu heals or paralyzes as necessary, and the tank keeps tanking. If single-target heals are needed, Minoriko comes in to do that. Meanwhile, Ran gets called back in for more ATK/MAG buffing. Once she's done, I switch to Yuugi as my tank with Reimu, Nitori, and Sanae. Reimu's still healing or hitting with PAR, and Yuugi and Nitori are ripping Kaguya a new one while Sanae alternates between them with Miracle Fruit. At this point, Kaguya goes down quickly.

With Kaguya down, Komachi gets to come in and debuff the crap out of Eirin and Reisen. Alice comes in, too, and hits Eirin's MAG. Yuugi and Nitori still do most of the attacking, although I'll bring in Patchy and Youmu for a bit if they run low on SP. Suwako gets her fair share of use here, too, as she's in charge of backing up Komachi's PAR and keeping Eirin from acting. The MAG debuff keeps damage down, and if you keep a full debuff on her, you've got a safety net in case she gets off an Astronomical Entombing. And once Eirin's down, of course, Reisen just gets the shit beaten out of her.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #800 on: October 06, 2011, 09:35:00 AM »
Eiki down, and 27F reached.

Renko/Mystia/Chen/filler are the best trash-clearing team ever.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #801 on: October 06, 2011, 09:45:09 AM »
Have fun farming skillpoints.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #802 on: October 06, 2011, 08:23:53 PM »
Thinking about playing this game again with a themed team. Probably by using the cast of a certain game.

Question is I can't decide if I should to an official game or a fangame like touhouvania.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #803 on: October 07, 2011, 10:38:42 AM »
Do the Touhouvania cast. It might be interesting to see what you can do with extra tanks, a lone off-healer and no big buffs.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #804 on: October 10, 2011, 07:53:53 PM »
Finally reached 10-12F.

Only now my game crashes on the spot any time one of the random encounters manages to land that single target DTH spell that I can't remember the name of.

Anyone else get this problem? I can't really play knowing that my entire progress into this puzzle is dependent upon the RNG not fucking me around.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #805 on: October 10, 2011, 11:47:20 PM »
Finally reached 10-12F.

Only now my game crashes on the spot any time one of the random encounters manages to land that single target DTH spell that I can't remember the name of.

Anyone else get this problem? I can't really play knowing that my entire progress into this puzzle is dependent upon the RNG not fucking me around.

I never experienced this problem, but you could probobly avoid it by:
a) using death-resistant gear
b) using death resistant characters
c) killing the enemy that uses the spell as quickly as possible (Cirno and Chen can probobly do that quite nicely)

Personally, once I got Cirno, I basically demolished every random encounter throughout the rest of the game without getting hit, just by opening with Daimond Blizzard and paralyzing everything. I have no memory of characters getting OHKO'd that early on, so I was probobly avoiding the spell via "method c" all along.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #806 on: October 11, 2011, 03:27:04 AM »
34 DTH resistance should render you immune to every instant death causing spell in the game, I believe. So it's certainly not an insurmountable obstacle. You can always just farm Rings of Hades on the earlier floors.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #807 on: October 11, 2011, 06:20:24 AM »
Thanks for the responses.

I'll guess I just have to power through this then.  :3

Good thing I preemptively farmed 12 Rings of Hades in preparation for Yuyuko.  :]

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #808 on: October 18, 2011, 03:36:14 AM »
It does seem like it'd be pretty annoying to have to devote an equipment slot to null instant death for every boss that can use the effect, but I don't think there are too many that use it, I guess.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #809 on: October 20, 2011, 07:00:05 AM »
Strangely enough, it's not every instant death spell that is causing it.

I got killed by the row target instant death spell that Komachi's ghosts have on multiple occasions with no issues regarding crashes.

It only appears to be Stygian Ferry that's causing it.