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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #690 on: July 27, 2011, 12:28:48 PM »
If I'm going into a floor that has enemies that have DTH, I equip accordingly.
Same goes for bosses like Yuyuko. And I use SIL as a forced means to use Focus.
It's kinda like the game's saying "Hey, use Focus more, ya idjit!"

And plus, with folks like Remi, Yuugi, Komachi, and Suika, basic attack can be somewhat useful at times, especially for softening up certain foes that would otherwise survive Royal Flare...Well, on the earlier floors preceding 14F.
So yeah, if an area's got effects I need to watch for, I equip accordingly. And right now China's got..20 DBF/SIL/DTH resist, which isn't that important outside of bosses, since she's primarily meant to just survive hits.
Her PAR/PSN resists are both 26, but she hardly ever gets hit by any status effect despite that. Aside from the occasional PAR, and the ever-annoying DTH on the 10-12F puzzle, courtesy of the Twilight Eyes.
And hardly any of the mobs I've been training on use status effects, eschewing them for just plain ol' muscle, or magic.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #691 on: July 27, 2011, 08:57:35 PM »
Characters with SIL can still switch. That's already huge when comapred to PAR.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #692 on: July 28, 2011, 02:57:46 PM »
Well, that was completely stupid.
I get a rare Blue Saber drop, and head back to save, but I hit load instead, ruining all the grinding I had done up to then.
My morale's completely shot....
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #693 on: July 29, 2011, 09:49:15 PM »
Also I need help with Baal Avatar, and yes, I did read the wiki.

Don't bother raising your affinities for this fight, as he's only got 1 elemental spell, and it's really weak anyway. Silence is the only status effect you need to guard against. With that in mind, use your equipment slots to either raise the defense/HP of your more durable characters, or just focus on offense. The latter half of the fight will be a damage race.

You need 2 strong tanks for this fight. Meiling or Tenshi should occupy the first slot, while the 2nd slot should go to whoever you have with great DEF and HP, like Yuugi, Wriggle, or Remilia. Ideally, you have at least 2 characters for the 2nd slot. Group healing with Reimu will be extremely important (although you can get away with MAG-buffed Rumia). Group DEF buffs are also crucial, so Reimu, Yukari, Ran, and Keine are all in high demand. The job of your 2nd slot character shouldn't be to deal damage, since they will be taking heavy damage from row-based attacks and can rarely afford to have their action bar low. Let them assist the tank in switching out slots 2 and 3. One of those slots should be rotating strong attackers (Kanako is great here for double damage on Suiga), while the other should be using Reimu for healing and your buffer of choice for DEF (use an attacker if buffs are full and healing isn't needed).

Alternatively, if you have several attackers with reasonable survivability but not to the level of Yuugi or so, you can switch out slot 2 with your tank while being careful not to have a weakened character out when the boss attacks. This works best with Tenshi, who requires less healing anyway. You can then have more semi-permament members in slots 3 or 4.

Play defensively for the first half of the fight and prioritize buffs and healing over damage. If you have Iku, let her take slot 3 or 4 for a while and have her buff your attackers as they're coming in (but don't be afraid to switch her out if you need defensive buffs or healing). Ran can also work in offensive buffs into her routine if you're using her. Count your damage carefully. After you've dealt 3 million damage (not 4 million, like the wiki says), the Baal Avatar will start gaining a significant amount of ATK and SPD every single turn. At this point, your goal is to merely give him as few remaining turns as possible. If you've been using Iku or Ran, you should ideally have several buffed attackers at this point. Otherwise, you can switch Rinnosuke into slot 1 and let him buff 3 characters quickly (he'll die soon, so switch in your tank once that happens). If your slot 2 character is also a good attacker like Yuugi, then you can try to blitz the boss with Yukari's Spiriting Away and at least 2 attackers. Otherwise, start switching in attackers into both slots 3 and 4, using Reimu for group healing when needed and switching in DEF buffs less frequently. Even though you're damage racing at this point, you still want Tenshi or Meiling in slot 1.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2011, 09:55:45 PM by Parallaxal »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #694 on: July 30, 2011, 12:25:44 AM »
Thanks Parallaxal, now to ry it again.
Also my Meiling is so much better than my Tenshi now. She has more defense than her and has 60,000 HP (rounded off).

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #695 on: August 01, 2011, 11:22:47 AM »
Does anyone know how to find the item codes for the cheat engine for the first 10 item pages, on Labyrinth Of touhou Special Disc?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #696 on: August 01, 2011, 07:38:25 PM »
Well, that was completely stupid.
I get a rare Blue Saber drop, and head back to save, but I hit load instead, ruining all the grinding I had done up to then.
My morale's completely shot....

Oh, I get your pain.

After marathoning all three Sora no Kiseki games, I decide to go back to Labyrinth of Touhou and keeps on erasing my own progress by pressing Escape when I try to call up the menu.

(Autokilling the program when a single key is pressed with no confirmation should be against the law)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #697 on: August 05, 2011, 05:42:49 PM »
could someone give me a save file to Special Disk ver 3.1  with either NG+ with every/most equipment or s***ton of Skill Points?
I ask because of 2 things 1 I want to do it the "Easy way" this time and cheat engine hates me beond help.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #698 on: August 08, 2011, 04:58:42 AM »
Well, I killed Winner 6 times now, and he finally outspeed my Sakuya.

Man, all the fights with now all boils down to him not spamming Longsword "Rigil" in mid fight, and not scream bloody murder when he is low on health with powerful spells like Summon Nility, and Magical Tempest.

The worst thing is that if he uses Berserker Mode, then followed by Rigil or Sword of Light.  He even Sword of Light on poor Yuyuko sitting in the 4th slot. 

That being said, though, even with Resist All, Nirvana hits for ALOT.  And I hate to say it, but Marisa is now absolutely necessary to tear through him now.  Even Nitori wants nothing to do with this guy. 

I only wished he uses Wand frost/flame more since those are easy bucket attacks, throughout all 6 defeats, he loves to buff up his defenses and stall, which really annoys me.

How long I will last until I'm bored of him?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #699 on: August 08, 2011, 06:10:56 AM »
I finally beat Baal Avatar!
And I'm so glad I don't have to fight him again as I got the Gurthang first time.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #700 on: August 08, 2011, 06:42:05 AM »
How long I will last until I'm bored of him?

Aproximately 8 more times or so. Actually when you reach 15, you will be bored.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #701 on: August 08, 2011, 07:11:48 PM »
I just hit an unusual situation...

Started over, played up to Eientei, somewhere along shit hit the fan and by time I had everyone lowered to the point I could take them out in 1 round of nukes, my front 3 slots get massacred. Patchy alone in the 4th slot is about to get her turn to throw out one last Royal Flare but she gets outsped and paralyzed ._.

I start getting slammed with 0's (Patchy still had Reimu's MND buffs on her) and after about 2-3 minutes later she's still paralyzed, so I go downstairs to eat. I come back, 20 minutes later, and Patchy is still getting whaled on, still paralyzed, trapped forever.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #702 on: August 08, 2011, 08:56:00 PM »
I just hit an unusual situation...

Started over, played up to Eientei, somewhere along shit hit the fan and by time I had everyone lowered to the point I could take them out in 1 round of nukes, my front 3 slots get massacred. Patchy alone in the 4th slot is about to get her turn to throw out one last Royal Flare but she gets outsped and paralyzed ._.

I start getting slammed with 0's (Patchy still had Reimu's MND buffs on her) and after about 2-3 minutes later she's still paralyzed, so I go downstairs to eat. I come back, 20 minutes later, and Patchy is still getting whaled on, still paralyzed, trapped forever.

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After that long, you shoulda kept waiting just to log HOW long she was stuck with PAR, then Royal Flare'd everything to show WHO IS THE ULTIMATE MAGITANK OF DOOM!  ...or something.  Oh well.  Hoping you slaughtered em the next fight through.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #703 on: August 09, 2011, 12:10:31 AM »
I didn't think she would actually XD; my Patchy had 0 PAR resistance so I figured she might have stayed stuck, I don't know what factors into getting out of it, but still, yeah, I owned them afterwards :V

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #704 on: August 09, 2011, 08:43:32 AM »
After a long time, I continued playing this one... Hehe. Brilliant game.

Yesterday I beat Flandre with pure luck (considering that my level avarage is 70)...
It was rather interesting fight as Flandre managed to destroy
my whole team except Meiling, Sakuya, Remilia and Patchouli.

Well, after first Leavatein only Remilia was standing (maybe because she was in back row?)...
Remilia then survived from secon Leavatain and finished Flandre with the Gugnir...

Hehe... Now if I just could beat Yukari with Reimu, Yuyuko, Ran and Chen as the last
characters, that would be sweet...
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #705 on: August 11, 2011, 05:28:48 PM »
So I've beaten the main game, beaten all  Bloodseal Bosses (killed Bloody Papa before he can even do a second action! Then repeated it 5 more times til I got bored. XD), all version 2 chars but Mari, did the first Boss Rush, and going to cash in my 5th star which is the Equipment one.

Once I get the 5th star I plan to take on Maribel version 2. Any advice (such as recommended levels) before I fight her as well as the verson 2 Boss Rush? I really had a hard time with Yukari version 2 (non Boss Rush)...

My levels are at an average of 190 with some over 200 like Reimu or Chen, but some below 190 like Yukari.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2011, 05:32:08 PM by Sukusuku Keine »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #706 on: August 11, 2011, 05:33:13 PM »
I believe she's somewhere between the four sigil guardians and Eiki in difficulty. There's no hurry in beating her, though - you can very much wait until you're ready to take on 27F if you want.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #707 on: August 11, 2011, 05:35:41 PM »
So I need to be somewhere within level 250-270?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #708 on: August 11, 2011, 05:56:18 PM »
250-270 is an overestimate for Maribel V2, I'd imagine. Maybe in the 230+ range?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #709 on: August 12, 2011, 07:20:43 PM »
Is there an issue with fonts? When I play at home, I get a different font than when I play on other PC's. Is it because I'm using Windows XP while the other PC's use Windows 7?



I found a screenie from one of the earlier posts (the one on the left) which has the same font as the other PC's while the right screenie's mine.

I've even tried deleting from the font folder and recopying the fonts from the english patch folder and the result's the same. Is this normal or some bug?

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #710 on: August 13, 2011, 09:51:27 PM »
I just hit an unusual situation...

Started over, played up to Eientei, somewhere along shit hit the fan and by time I had everyone lowered to the point I could take them out in 1 round of nukes, my front 3 slots get massacred. Patchy alone in the 4th slot is about to get her turn to throw out one last Royal Flare but she gets outsped and paralyzed ._.

I start getting slammed with 0's (Patchy still had Reimu's MND buffs on her) and after about 2-3 minutes later she's still paralyzed, so I go downstairs to eat. I come back, 20 minutes later, and Patchy is still getting whaled on, still paralyzed, trapped forever.

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Same here.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #711 on: August 16, 2011, 03:49:14 AM »
Hi thread, I'm new here, and this game is kicking my ass.

I'm at 8F, levels anywhere from 24-30, and Komachi's friggin' spirits are destroying me. And if this is the spirits, I really am scared to go after the first Reisen fight, the final Nitori fight, or Suwako...

Is there really no way to get Death resistance other than grinding out on the Wraiths on 6F for hours and hoping they drop 8 more rings of Hades? (I have 2 Rings and 2 other Death buffers.)

Aaaagh, why can't I just buy items that I already have...? Or cheat myself up eight more somehow.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #712 on: August 16, 2011, 03:50:15 AM »
Farm Rings of Hades on 7F there are much more there.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #713 on: August 16, 2011, 07:37:53 AM »
Reisen fight is piss easy. There's nothing to be afraid of other than missing her drop.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #714 on: August 16, 2011, 03:22:49 PM »
Abuse PAR on Reisen. Defeat her first before her mooks (don't kill the mooks or even kill one) to get her drop which is really good.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #715 on: August 16, 2011, 04:42:10 PM »
You can actually kill 3 of Reisen's mooks before her and still get the drop. You just have to kill Reisen before you kill her 4th mook. And if you can't keep her mooks paralyzed or just don't care about her drop item, just spam group nukes every turn to force Reisen to waste her turns resummoning instead of actually attacking (this drains her entire active gauge). There's really nothing to worry about; she pretty much is the easiest boss in the game.

For Nitori, give Meiling a Love Machine #### to have her survive Megawatt Linear Gun. The rest of your team should emphasize NTR resistance (for Extending Arm), and your 2nd slot characters might also consider CLD resistance (For Kappa's Pororoca).

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #716 on: August 16, 2011, 06:24:22 PM »
So, there's no easy way to grind out the Rings of Hades, or just cheat myself up enough?

Looks like I'm going to be at this for ages.

Thanks for the advice on the bosses, though.


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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #717 on: August 16, 2011, 07:12:05 PM »
Those spirits were a very real threat to me too on my last playthru, I just explored the rest of the floor first, or did you do that already? It also helps to have out characters that have a naturally high dth resist. Remember, all resistances are tripled. so even if a character only has 18 dth resist, it's actually 54..

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #718 on: August 16, 2011, 08:10:59 PM »
Oooh. Didn't realize that. Well, I've started busting the Spirits without any more death boosting items, (just 2 rings, a forbidden tablet, and one other random item) Maybe the extra levels helped. ... I'm still gonna have to grind them for Yuyuko, though, aren't I?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #719 on: August 16, 2011, 09:01:12 PM »
You don't need to grind in this game at all until the final boss. Though it's likely you'll have to grind some before 16f or 18f boss if it's your first playthru. I personally rarely put on more than 2 or 3 of the things for yuyu and IIRC they can drop naturally later on as well.