Labyrinth of Touhou 7F

[Hanzo K.]

I can probably provide mine, it's a mix-n-match of a few sets that a friend provided for me when I first started playing.
I'm just not sure if it's within the attachment limits, being 7.72-7.73 MB and all. I was probably pushing it with the massive imagedump earlier as it is.
So I'll just mediafire it instead, so here.

[Pesco]

8F has plenty of DTH rings drops. I farm Forbidden Tablets for the offensive power rather than resists. Early game when your base stats are still better than SKP stats are the best times to keep stat gear.

[Hanzo K.]

So just grind on 8F like normal huh, and avoid boss markers until you've got plenty huh?

[Nerv-Faktor]

So just grind on 8F like normal huh, and avoid boss markers until you've got plenty huh?

You probably have at least 3 rings of hades and 1 forbidden tablet already, that should be enough for those ghosts. They don't have a lot of HP, 45.000 iirc.
Also, don't grind on 8F, continue with 9F, the enemies there aren't much stronger. There's no boss at the end of 8F and the boss at the end of 9F is very easy.

[Hanzo K.]

I have 4 hades rings, and no tablets.
Alice was too difficult for me to even think about grinding for the drop.
She was one of the bosses that caused me so much grief, even more than Cirno and Youmu.

[Nerv-Faktor]

I have 4 hades rings, and no tablets.
Alice was too difficult for me to even think about grinding for the drop.
She was one of the bosses that caused me so much grief, even more than Cirno and Youmu.

Then you missed a forbidden tablet as a treasure on 7F. It's probably worth going back to get that.

Image: The treasure in the red circle should be the forbidden tablet.

[Hanzo K.]

That's odd, I got the Lance of Geios there, not a tablet.

[Nerv-Faktor]

That's odd, I got the Lance of Geios there, not a tablet.

Then it should be the one on the other side. There's a forbidden tablet on one side and the lance of geios on the other, iirc. I thought the lance was on the left side and the tablet on the right, but maybe I'm wrong. Did you get both treasures there?

[Hanzo K.]

Yeah, i made sure to.
Weird huh? maybe i should double-check to make certain.


EDIT: yep, it was the other side I had visited, not that one. It was there like you said.

[Nerv-Faktor]

Maybe you picked it up without noticing. If you explored that part of 7F check your inventory page 8. The wiki says that there's a forbidden tablet there as well.

[Hanzo K.]

I hadn't even visited that part of the floor, i thought for sure I had mapped it all before going to 8F.

[zephyredx]

I'm on floor 30 right now, but not strong enough to grind there yet. Should I grind on 29F (for higher exp) or 27F (for higher SKP)?

[J.O.B]

SKP gives a 3% boost to the base stat each level while level up bonuses give 2%.
So I would say 27F.

[Hanzo K.]

Well, after noticing that I never gave patchy any skp for MND, I decided to make a trip to 8F for grinding/exploration/mapping purposes.
And who should I bump into? Nitori. Again. This means I've almost recruited her right? I just gotta win the 9F fight now huh?

But first things first, the lost souls. I'll get Suwako later on, when I can actually handle her.

[Nerv-Faktor]

SKP gives a 3% boost to the base stat each level while level up bonuses give 2%.
So I would say 27F.

A level-up gives a decent boost to all stats even without the bonus, though. A level-up should always be better than a skill-up, but you can probably make enough SKP for quite a few skill-ups in the time it takes you to grind the EXP for a single level. Grind on 27F.

Well, after noticing that I never gave patchy any skp for MND, I decided to make a trip to 8F for grinding/exploration/mapping purposes.
And who should I bump into? Nitori. Again. This means I've almost recruited her right? I just gotta win the 9F fight now huh?

But first things first, the lost souls. I'll get Suwako later on, when I can actually handle her.

After you've beaten Nitori in that random encounter, you have to find her on the map. After that she'll wait at the beginning of 9F, in a corner not too far away from the 8F stairs. Don't underestimate her because of those easy random encounters with her, she's quite dangerous now.

[Hanzo K.]

Of course, but I've got a good idea for a team going.
I just need to get Alice and Patchy's MAG up to where Yuugi's ATK is.

See, my plan is to have Meiling tank everything while Alice and Yuugi use their single-target FIR nukes, and Patchy spams Royal Flare.
Also, those lost/calamitous souls are jokes with 40+ DTH resist.
Sure, they've got good MND, but that's a moot point when you're slinging Silent Selene for 6k+, and Gungnir for 7k+.
See, I had this lineup. Meiling->Remilia->Aya(for sarutahiko's guidance)->Patchy
It worked out better than I had ever hoped. Now I just gotta off the other threeTwoone.


EDIT #...4?: All four have been beaten, now to find Komachi again.

[Nerv-Faktor]

See, my plan is to have Meiling tank everything while Alice and Yuugi use their single-target FIR nukes, and Patchy spams Royal Flare.
Also, those lost/calamitous souls are jokes with 40+ DTH resist.

Just hope that Nitori doesn't use her multi-target attacks too often. Patchouli has terrible DEF and will most likely be oneshot by any multitarget attack Nitori can do. Also, don't underestimate the gun, I don't know if Meiling has enough SP to keep herself alive long enough, but if you're packing Yuugi, Alice and Patchy (all 3 can deal ridiculous damage to her) the fight will probably be over very soon. Give it a try.
Meiling probably needs the LOVE Machine equipped to survive the gunshot at all, it's FIR-elemental. You can also use Komachi(very high HP), but she lacks the self-healing.

[Hanzo K.]

That's exactly what I did.
Lost patchy and a few others, but the damage was too great for her to last very long with Remi and Iku tag-teaming her with Wriggle's poison slowly chipping away.

[Nerv-Faktor]

That's exactly what I did.
Lost patchy and a few others, but the damage was too great for her to last very long with Remi and Iku tag-teaming her with Wriggle's poison slowly chipping away.

If you beat Nitori, you should be able to beat Suwako, too. She's easier imo. The actual 9F boss is also a lot easier than Nitori.

[Hanzo K.]

So she's got the same weaknesses essentially? I'll probably need at least 2k MND/DEF on all my battle characters, she hits insanely hard, harder than Nitori ever did really.
Though now that I have Nitori too, I should have much better damage output.


Oh, could someone explain how Battle Points work? Because I'm gunning to have enough battle points to recruit Flan the moment I'm able to.
(I'm also looking forward to her 11F dialogue.)

[Nerv-Faktor]

Oh, could someone explain how Battle Points work? Because I'm gunning to have enough battle points to recruit Flan the moment I'm able to.
(I'm also looking forward to her 11F dialogue.)

If you start a battle, the 4 characters in the front row get 1 battle point each, if you end a battle it's the same. So, if you don't switch characters in random encounters, your 4 frontrow characters each get 2 BP per battle. If you use Remi, Patchy and Reimu or Marisa from the start you'll easily have enough battle points to fight and recruit Flan on 15F (that's where the BP check is, iirc), even if you don't use them all the time.
Also 10F-12F share a big puzzle that spans all three floors, I recommend using the wiki-walkthrough for those 3 floors. Otherwise it can take very long (you'll spend several hours on 10F-12F even when following the walkthrough) and you'll probably be overleveled when you arrive at 13F, eliminating all challenges there and on the next floors.

[Hanzo K.]

And the wiki says that Meiling and Sakuya also count.
So how many battles are we looking at to get 150 BP for Rumia, 75?  Because I think Yuyuko is also quite BP based as well.
Youmu's BP might be tricky though, due in part to her being a bit tricky to use as a leave-in.

[Nerv-Faktor]

And the wiki says that Meiling and Sakuya also count.
So how many battles are we looking at to get 150 BP for Rumia, 75?  Because I think Yuyuko is also quite BP based as well.
Youmu's BP might be tricky though, due in part to her being a bit tricky to use as a leave-in.

Yes, all SDM characters and Reimu and Marisa count, I just wasn't sure if you still use Sakuya and Meiling. If you use 3 or 4 of them until 15F you'll already have the required BP when you get there.
75 battles for 150 BP, yes. If you keep her in the frontrow all the time, that is.
Youmu has decent DEF, her focus restores 2times the normal SP and her multi-target attacks are good for clearing trash. What's so tricky about leaving her in?

[Hanzo K.]

I'll give that a go, but instead I'll do this team.
Youmu->Aya->Rumia->Chen
Since it's good enough to flatten most all mobs there.

And I was using Meiling a lot, she was my key fighter in the Nitori battle, and I used Sakuya for quite a while too, back when Remi was my slot 1 tank/attacker.

And in other 9F related news...
What's Reisen weak to anyhow? I'm gunning for her drop, so I'm trying to kill just her, and then the three mooks she summons.
I'm considering leading off by poisoning her, then hitting her with all my high-power single target nukes. Like Megawatt Gun, KOi3S, Return Inanimate, Silent Selene, and etc.

[Nerv-Faktor]

And in other 9F related news...
What's Reisen weak to anyhow? I'm gunning for her drop, so I'm trying to kill just her, and then the three mooks she summons.
I'm considering leading off by poisoning her, then hitting her with all my high-power single target nukes. Like Megawatt Gun, KOi3S, Return Inanimate, Silent Selene, and etc.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou/Bestiary#9F
No real weaknesses, 70 SPI affinity, but that doesn't matter since Reimu doesn't deal that much damage anyway. Her adds have 0 PAR resistance, so spam evil sealing circle to keep them from attacking while your damage dealers attack Reisen (Reisen isn't immune to PAR either). This will kill the 3 little rabbits after a few rounds, but that's no problem, you can get a maximum of 4 drops from a battle, so you can kill the first wave, Reisen just has to die before the first rabbit of the second wave.

[Hanzo K.]

So everything but mystic huh?
And get plenty of Mystic resist myself, as well as status/debuff resist.

Wait, doesn't Demarcation turn Debuffs into Buffs? If that's the case, then I can turn her own strategy against her!

[Nerv-Faktor]

So everything but mystic huh?
And get plenty of Mystic resist myself, as well as status/debuff resist.

Wait, doesn't Demarcation turn Debuffs into Buffs? If that's the case, then I can turn her own strategy against her!

No, Demarcation removes buffs, iirc. Mystia has a spell that turns debuffs into buffs. Mystic resistance and Statdrop resistance isn't that important, though I guess it helps. Reisen really doesn't deal a lot of damage and I don't remember her debuffs being that annoying.

[Hanzo K.]

Hm, so maybe I should try to get Suwako, so I can spam paralysis on her along with Reimu.
See, I'd rather not kill Reisen's first wave of mooks before I take her down first, that way there's little worry of not getting her drop.

[Nerv-Faktor]

Hm, so maybe I should try to get Suwako, so I can spam paralysis on her along with Reimu.
See, I'd rather not kill Reisen's first wave of mooks before I take her down first, that way there's little worry of not getting her drop.

Suwako's paralysis spell is single-target and does respectable damage, but is MYS-elemental, so it will be useless on Reisen and kill her mooks really fast. Try it with paralyzing the first wave, if you don't get the drop you can just try again with another tactic. But I can assure you, that it works with killing the first wave. You can get a maximum of 4 drops - 3*rabbit and 1*Reisen. Maybe you're even fast enough to kill her before Reimu kills the adds, depending on how much you've raised Reimu's MAG.

[Hanzo K.]

And as it turned out, I didn't need suwako, just Reimu.
Though Komachi was definitely a major help with Avici and Death-Choosing Scythe.

Only downside was that she managed to silence Yuugi and Nitori, but they already got their shots in, so it was too little too late.
Now the only thing left is who to give Reisen's drop to. Who would best benefit from it, Meiling? Seeing as how she's my main tank.