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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #210 on: May 13, 2011, 08:22:07 AM »
Just beat Kaggy's FOE :D

EDIT: Up to 18F, highest level is 80-83.
Fastest character: Chen:343 with two acc. modules and a faerie wing.
Slowest Character:Yuyu:138.
Lol difference

EDIT EDIT: Also Ring of Hades sell for over 14000 skill points for me :D

Something wrong with your Yuyu O_o.  Patchy's supposed to be slower.
I hope you have Flan, since she can cream most of the 18F stuff. 

I'd also like to petition Cirno for top tier if we count only maingame.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #211 on: May 13, 2011, 08:44:59 AM »
I leveld Patchy's SPD to lvl47 since I wanted her to be faster.
It actually wasn't that bad of a move.
Her speed is now 153.
And If you think that's weird, My Suwako's attack is higher than Nitori's by about 800.

Now for a Highest stat list:D
HP:Komachi obviously with 15123
SP:Patchy with 523
ATK:Yuugi with 7767
DEF:Tenshi with 5734
MAG:Patchy with 6851
MND:Patchy with 6405
SPD was listed earlier and I don't want to bother listing affinities.
And no I don't have Flan yet.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #212 on: May 13, 2011, 08:50:01 AM »
My Yuyu's also slower than my Patch, since I haven't spent any SP on speed for her, but my Patch has 23 in it.  He probably has something similar going on.  My Eirin is technically the slowest, but she's still level 1 (because I'm not sure how I want to build her yet) so it doesn't count.

Really demotivated to continue right now.  I'm definitely about 10 levels underleveled for Kourin and I just can't bring myself to do them...

*sees another message was posted*

I leveld Patchy's SPD to lvl47 since I wanted her to be faster.
It actually wasn't that bad of a move.
Her speed is now 153.
See, there you go >_>

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #213 on: May 13, 2011, 09:01:01 AM »
Just to annoy you NEETori I put one more level into Yuyu's speed.
She now has 139 speed.
Also Nitori's speed recently crossed into the 200's but then I took her speed items away and gave her attack items instead.
She still doesn't have higher attack than Suwako though.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #214 on: May 13, 2011, 09:07:15 AM »
My Yuyu's also slower than my Patch, since I haven't spent any SP on speed for her, but my Patch has 23 in it.  He probably has something similar going on.  My Eirin is technically the slowest, but she's still level 1 (because I'm not sure how I want to build her yet) so it doesn't count.

Really demotivated to continue right now.  I'm definitely about 10 levels underleveled for Kourin and I just can't bring myself to do them...

*sees another message was posted*
See, there you go >_>

Kourin's not bad if you make sure to keep your defenses buffed since Nitori literally two-shots all forms when supported.  Throw on some other attackers and as long as you can keep them out of harm's way, you're good.

Personally, I'd build Eirin defensively.  I started her out pure magic, but she was getting quickly outpaced by practically every attacker.  It really hurts her since her only viable attack is spirit elemental, and the other three are weak (Mercury Sea and Omoikane's Device if you're not hitting weakness) or mediocre (Galaxy in a Pot). 

My highest stats:
HP - Komachi at around 230k, Meiling in a distant second at 150k and Reimu in a close third at 120k
SP - lolReimu at 4k
Attack - Flan with over 200k and Yuugi in a distant second at 175k
Defense - Tenshi at 90k
Magic - Patchy at barely over 130k
Mind - Iku with 120k
Speed - Chen sitting comfortably close to 4k
Affinities - highest overall belong to Reimu

And If you think that's weird, My Suwako's attack is higher than Nitori's by about 800.

Actually, that's not weird, considering Nitori's Attack growth is made of epic meh.  Gurthangs and buffs are what make her especially awesome endgame. 

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #215 on: May 13, 2011, 09:43:53 AM »
Yay beat Orin first try since I finally bothered getting to her battle.
Now I just need Flan and then I'm all done for bosses.
Until I get to Kourin.....

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #216 on: May 13, 2011, 02:20:15 PM »
Kourin's not bad if you make sure to keep your defenses buffed since Nitori literally two-shots all forms when supported.  Throw on some other attackers and as long as you can keep them out of harm's way, you're good.
Ehh, what level were you when you got there?  My Nitori hits a  bit under 70k on fire-neutral, which would be 3-4 shotting anything that isn't cold.  Level 83, 68 points into attack, and 168% attack from equipment.  In any case, my whole team is being sweeped before the first form goes down =p.  Most of my party's in the high 70s, except for Chen (93), and a couple of the other faster levelers (low-mid 80s).

General replay of what happens when I attempt to kill him.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2011, 02:22:41 PM by chirpy13 »

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #217 on: May 13, 2011, 03:33:33 PM »
Hey all, I've been playing this game for a while, and it's kept me occupied for quite a while.

I have beaten the game and gotten all the way to 27F.

I started doing the postgame content some time after 20F to get the "star" mission things that appear in Akyuu's House.
I looked up how to get them, and one of them told me to get at least one of every item on pages 1 - 10 of the equipment list. So I went and farmed the monsters needed to get all the items, and once I had all the items, I went to check the missions, and it's hasn't appeared, meaning I can't get past 27F since I only have 4 stars...

I'm just wondering if this is a known issue or if there's a way to fix it.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #218 on: May 13, 2011, 04:11:52 PM »
Beating the 20F boss again usually fixes that issue.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #219 on: May 13, 2011, 04:33:03 PM »
Ehh, what level were you when you got there?  My Nitori hits a  bit under 70k on fire-neutral, which would be 3-4 shotting anything that isn't cold.  Level 83, 68 points into attack, and 168% attack from equipment.  In any case, my whole team is being sweeped before the first form goes down =p.  Most of my party's in the high 70s, except for Chen (93), and a couple of the other faster levelers (low-mid 80s).

General replay of what happens when I attempt to kill him.

Nitori's nuke is actually non-elemental. 
Okay, so at that level, you're a bit low.  Reimu 100 seems to be the magic number for most people.  I also recommend using Meiling over Tenshi unless you can get Tenshi's health to about 6500 or so, since she'll get smashed by Rasetsu Fist, otherwise.  You also might wanna consider swapping a few of your nukers for bulkier attackers and possibly an attacker for Iku or Ran (the boost to Nitori and your glass cannons will far outdamage the unboosted attacking power of everyone unbuffed). 

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #220 on: May 13, 2011, 04:34:51 PM »
Beating the 20F boss again usually fixes that issue.

It worked!
Thank you very much. I was getting worried that I had played this game for nothing.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #221 on: May 13, 2011, 07:17:26 PM »
I'd also like to petition Cirno for top tier if we count only maingame.

I'd agree with this. Cirno is like a poor man's Renko or Mystia, but Renko and Mystia are so awesome that even an inferior version of them can still be good.

I love how awesome buffs and debuffs are in this game. Reminds me of my days maining BRD in FFXI.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #222 on: May 13, 2011, 07:50:53 PM »
Nitori's nuke is actually non-elemental. 
Okay, so at that level, you're a bit low.  Reimu 100 seems to be the magic number for most people.  I also recommend using Meiling over Tenshi unless you can get Tenshi's health to about 6500 or so, since she'll get smashed by Rasetsu Fist, otherwise.  You also might wanna consider swapping a few of your nukers for bulkier attackers and possibly an attacker for Iku or Ran (the boost to Nitori and your glass cannons will far outdamage the unboosted attacking power of everyone unbuffed).
Oh is it?  It says both fire and non-elemental in the description, so it's a bit misleading.  Anyway, how's my new lineup look?

I'd agree with this. Cirno is like a poor man's Renko or Mystia, but Renko and Mystia are so awesome that even an inferior version of them can still be good.

I love how awesome buffs and debuffs are in this game. Reminds me of my days maining BRD in FFXI.

I didn't really like Cirno.  Her speed debuff is okay early on (10F or so), but once you have Komachi and Reisen, she becomes a bit outclassed.  All-debuffs in one shot with Reisen and all-debuffs plus poison and short-term paralysis with Komachi makes them way better for crippling imo.  Suwako can take up the paralysis role, and Reimu can slip in a paralysis between barriers if Suwako misses.  A third debuffer just feels like a wasted character slot.  Renko and Mystia look nice though... 100% speed debuff plus paralyze?  Followed up with a  100% debuff to everything else?  Do want.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #223 on: May 13, 2011, 08:16:39 PM »
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all-debuffs plus poison and short-term paralysis with Komachi
Komachi's is pretty SP-intensive, small debuff numbers, and DOESN'T HIT ATK/MAG, which basically degrades it into tiny SPD debuff that can hit a little PAR. It's still useful, but it's not superawesomefantabulous  :3

Yukari's does it better anyway. Although you don't get her for awhile and usually her SP is better saved for DEF/MND buffing (or postgame, SPIRITING AWAY SPAM)

And yeah, characters practically need to be rated separately for Main Game, Plus Disk, and possibly Winner (mostly only important for people who have no lives and beat him more then once). Like Wriggle is top tier for the Main Game, and useless tier for Plus Disk since Poison scales horribly. Amusingly, if I work out the formula as the Special Disk database gives it, Wriggle SHOULD still be doing top-tier damage; but I even got her out and tried it on a 30F random, and no, it's pathetically low. Weird.

One thing that massively changes characters at Winner is how much of a HUGE difference affinities make things. Characters with low MND, if given special attention to affinities, take a MND hit pretty damn well. Yuugi with a Physical Reactor can hit half 1k and half 750 affinities without much trouble and become an awesome tank with her Meiling-tier HP/DEF, great damage, and suddenly good ability to deal with magic hits (She takes about 100k from magic while having 360k HP for me at the moment, and basically invincible to physicals). It makes me wonder why I even have Meiling anymore when Yuugi fills the 1st slot for me just as well now, and Ran takes the second constantly spamming DEF/MND buff.

Also, DEF-build Ran has even better HP/DEF/MND then Yukari, I've noticed now. But she can only afford to spam her buff the entire battle during later in Plus Disk, soooo... Yukari is still overall better before like, Winner. Plus she has super abusable spiriting away.

Starting to think about leaving Reimu/Rumia in third slot and having 4th slot be Chen or Aya with pumped affinities. Not having to switch them out ever drastically increases their damage, which due to super speed+delays previously was mostly held back due to having to switch them out most of the time, but now they can't be oneshotted, hehe... plus Chen regains ALL her delay in 1 battle tick for me now, which is awesome.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2011, 08:29:45 PM by NeoSerela »
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #224 on: May 13, 2011, 08:19:10 PM »
Ehh, what level were you when you got there?  My Nitori hits a  bit under 70k on fire-neutral, which would be 3-4 shotting anything that isn't cold.  Level 83, 68 points into attack, and 168% attack from equipment.  In any case, my whole team is being sweeped before the first form goes down =p.  Most of my party's in the high 70s, except for Chen (93), and a couple of the other faster levelers (low-mid 80s).

General replay of what happens when I attempt to kill him.

Just use Reimu to guage levels, forget about everyone else. Unless you aren't using Reimu.

anyway, I can't even get to that boss without hitting Reimu 90 without doing any grinding, but I do explore every map, are you skipping portions or something? Or is your Reimu about 90 too?

Anyway, you're kinda playing oddly IMO, or maybe you just stopped caring at a certain point. First off, you have tenshi in the front, which is good, but I'm wondering if that's just coincidence and you don't know. But yeah, you want to stick your tankier characters in the front, and your squishier ones in the back. (Front being left), not only to the front characters get targetted by the bigger nukes more often, but they also eat more damage from row attacks like Tai slash. For example, having Yukari in the far back, and Flan in the 2nd front is just insane. Looking at your party setup, I don't really notice any pure tanks other than Tenshi, so Yukari and Reimu should be your 2nd slot (especially since they'll have def buffs up more than other people since they do the bufifng themselves). Don't start with flan, she's squishy, giving her defensive buffs isn't going to do much. Try having your toughest people out first, and def buff em up, then switch out someone for someone squishy, then you'll have a nice controlled group of 3 beefy person, and only 1 squishy person to worry about. I'd open up with Yuugi 2nd instead of Flan if I were you, then switch out people who need healing most afterwards.

Your biggest problem though is that you just don't have china. Tenshi is going to have a really hard time managing ratsetsu fists with her low hp. You MAY want to consider buffing up Yuugi's hp while you grind, she's probably your best 1st slot tank for Rinnosuke phase 1. Don't leave her in the first slot for elemental phases though, tenshi should be fine for that. Without only Tenshi as a tank, and with absolutely no healing in your entire party minus Reimu's exorcising border. Keeping hp up during phase 1 will be very difficult.

But yeah, try again when you get Yuugi's hp over 6500, and don't leave people like flan or suwako in slot 2 if you can help it, and it shouldn't be rape anymore.

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Oh is it?  It says both fire and non-elemental in the description, so it's a bit misleading.  Anyway, how's my new lineup look?

Oh, you change characters? I see, that's ok then! yeah, having china will help alot. This "lineup" is for this boss only I hope? I notice you don't hav ea single source of mag-nukeage. Alice's return inanimateness uses def not mnd.. soo.. Yeah, you're definitely not going to be able to keep that party for the rest of the game.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2011, 08:24:40 PM by Ghaleon »

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #225 on: May 13, 2011, 08:53:14 PM »
Ugh, well that was upsetting... Just typed a response and clicked off the page somehow. Time to retype... D=

anyway, I can't even get to that boss without hitting Reimu 90 without doing any grinding, but I do explore every map, are you skipping portions or something? Or is your Reimu about 90 too?
Reimu's 87 now, but she was around 83 when I reached the floor I believe.  Can't remember exactly, but it sounds about right.  I normally go for full map unlocking because I'm incredibly anal about stuff like that, though I was lazy with 17F because there's no events there.  Just grabbed myself a teleporter map and skipped along to 18F.

Anyway, you're kinda playing oddly IMO, or maybe you just stopped caring at a certain point. First off, you have tenshi in the front, which is good, but I'm wondering if that's just coincidence and you don't know. But yeah, you want to stick your tankier characters in the front, and your squishier ones in the back. (Front being left), not only to the front characters get targetted by the bigger nukes more often, but they also eat more damage from row attacks like Tai slash. For example, having Yukari in the far back, and Flan in the 2nd front is just insane. Looking at your party setup, I don't really notice any pure tanks other than Tenshi, so Yukari and Reimu should be your 2nd slot (especially since they'll have def buffs up more than other people since they do the bufifng themselves). Don't start with flan, she's squishy, giving her defensive buffs isn't going to do much. Try having your toughest people out first, and def buff em up, then switch out someone for someone squishy, then you'll have a nice controlled group of 3 beefy person, and only 1 squishy person to worry about. I'd open up with Yuugi 2nd instead of Flan if I were you, then switch out people who need healing most afterwards.
The whole reason for Flan was because I knew my team was too weak as a whole.  I expected whoever was in slot 2 to get killed on round 1 regardless, so I tossed Flan in there as a sacrifice since she seemed like the least useful member (low SP, high SP costs, punishing attacks, low survivability).  I wanted Reimu/Yukari in slots 3/4 to make sure they survived to buff whoever filled in Flan's position.

Oh, you change characters? I see, that's ok then! yeah, having china will help alot. This "lineup" is for this boss only I hope? I notice you don't hav ea single source of mag-nukeage. Alice's return inanimateness uses def not mnd.. soo.. Yeah, you're definitely not going to be able to keep that party for the rest of the game.
Of course not >_>.  I usually use Chen/Marisa/Reimu (Nitori if there's a lot of spirit resistance) for my initial floor sweepers since they have high speed/decent damage, and then move them around as needed to recover their SP.  For bosses I just working my team around with whoever seems the most useful.  Normally Komachi and Reisen would be in here, but Kourin seems completely immune to debuffs/poison/paralysis, which is very depressing since those would probably be enough to take him down at my levels with a bit of luck.

EDIT: Level 90 now, and it's... Still really brutal.  I can push him through about 2 forms before I run out of attackers.  Really hard to move people in and out before they get killed here.  Maybe I should start pumping up Nitori/Suika/Yuugi's defences more or something so they can tank a few hits if needed.  Especially Nitori, she usually goes down before she can get an attack out =(.

EDIT2: Level 92, made it through about 5 forms.  Another level or two should do it =3
« Last Edit: May 14, 2011, 12:05:56 AM by chirpy13 »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #226 on: May 14, 2011, 12:56:32 AM »
Yay I beat Flan :D
That's it for now.
I hate grinding:(

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #227 on: May 14, 2011, 01:05:08 AM »
Whilst I love fighting the monsters every time, the grinding really takes up so much time. I'm glad you guys have the cheat stuff up for it; makes life some what easier.

If anything, I wouldn't mind asking what an ideal party would be made of. I mean, my character picks are all over the place and I'm pretty sure I just make life difficult for myself by picking characters who do the same thing. What would you say is the most 'balanced' selection of characters? Can I have two answers please; one with the main game batch and the second including everyone else.

And before I forget, I don't want Reimu or Marisa in there. Put them in if they fit the balanced team, but also suggest someone who could make up for them if they weren't there. Thank you. XD

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #228 on: May 14, 2011, 05:48:23 AM »
 Reimu's almost a must.  I say almost because you can use specific combinations of characters to substitute, but it's more efficient just to shove Reimu into any given team.

That being said:

Meiling, Komachi, Reimu, Nitori, MND Iku, Chen, Alice, Remilia, Reisen, Mystia, Youmu, Suwako.

I'm being sorta nice.  Chen is your blitzer.  Nitori and Suwako are glass cannons, Mystia, Alice, Remilia and Komachi are bulkier attackers, Reimu and Iku support and Meiling tanks.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #229 on: May 14, 2011, 07:08:25 AM »
Meiling, Komachi, Reimu, Nitori, MND Iku, Chen, Alice, Remilia, Reisen, Mystia, Youmu, Suwako.

This looks decent. I can't say that replacing anyone would be outright better, but I can say that some of the characters are more replacable than others in an ideal party.

First off, Meiling is essentially irreplacable. Yes, I know Tenshi can tank pretty well too, but honestly speaking, Meiling's sort of in a tier of her own. She's pretty much undeniably the best at what she does. Tenshi has overkill DEF/MND and not much else, while Meiling has good enough DEF/MND but with much better HP and utility. And when affinities start mattering more than DEF/MND, Tenshi just sort of loses her charm (although she's still a fine tank for main game).

Reimu I would also venture to say is irreplacable. The only thing that can come close to filling her role would be if you have both Yukari and Rumia, and even then Rumia isn't even close to comparable until you're well into the Plus Disk. Well, technically I could argue that if you know what you're doing, Minoriko can be an acceptable replacement, but even then it's debatable. But at least you can make some sort of argument for Minoriko as sole healer in an ideal party for the main game, which you can't even do for Sanae or Eirin.

I'd personally consider Iku irreplacable. Now, I'm well-known for being a big fan of Iku due to my experiences, but she's simply the best at doing what she does: passing out offensive buffs. +72% ATK/MAG is simply staggering; nothing else even comes close. Ran is a good buffer because she can also buff DEF/MND and she can attack pretty well too; otherwise, in general and practically speaking Ran is just plain inferior at offensive buffing (and I can show you why mathematically if you want). Being the best dedicated MND tank in the game does help Iku's case as well (Patchouli can get better MND, but she actually has a reason for putting points in MAG while Iku kind of doesn't).

Lastly, I'd say that Mystia is irreplacable. Yes, Renko and Cirno can both do similar things, but Mystia has one major benefit that those two lack: she can actually do respectable damage. There will be boss fights where Renko and Cirno are more or less useless, but that will NEVER happen with Mystia.

Aside from that, everyone else in the party is pretty much replaceable. You could replace Youmu with Yuugi and Alice with Patchouli, and I daresay you won't notice much of a difference in the long run. One could make the argument that Nitori is irreplacable, and indeed she is the best at what she does, just like the other characters that I called irreplacable. However, there is one difference: she is only one damage dealer out of at least half a dozen, while the other characters that I called irreplacable are oftentimes the only characters on your team filling that role. Thus, trading out one damage dealer for a slightly worse one (like replacing Nitori with Shikieiki) won't affect your team as much relative to trading out, say, Meiling for Tenshi. However, if I were to make an ideal team, Nitori would definitely be in.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2011, 07:12:55 AM by Parallaxal »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #230 on: May 14, 2011, 08:42:27 AM »
A truly ideal party doesn't exist, but basically, if you have the foundation of Reimu, Meiling, Iku, Mystia and Nitori, you're already pretty well off, since they provide you with almost everything you need.  You just gotta throw in characters to fit what your party needs after that. 

Another thing worth considering is either having a random encounter team, and a boss team.  Some characters are great for both (AKA, everyone in the core except Meiling, and even she is workable), but for the most part, you're better off switching characters in and out as needed, since leaked experience is usually enough. 

On the note of attackers being interchangable - for the most part, I agree, but it's also worth considering niche roles (Suika, Youmu and Yuugi for durability, Flan for sheer damage potential, Nitori and Shiki for reliability and the ability to take a single hit).   That being said, who is probably better for Winrawr?  Yuugi or Youmu?  I'm currently using Yuugi, as she's one of my favorite characters, but I can't help but think that Youmu might be better (weaker attack, but better formula, non-elemental, and slightly more flexible)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #231 on: May 14, 2011, 07:38:41 PM »
Youmu/Yuugi are ridiculously similar. Both have almost IDENTICAL stats and serve as a physical nuker (who, without factoring elements, have very similar single-target nuke damage too!).

Youmu has more stable affinities, her nuke has no element, and she has 2 great multitargets that are also very powerful against hitting WND/NTR weaknesses on a boss.

Yuugi has a little more HP/DEF/MND and less of a SP problem earlier on, a weakish multitarget, and her nuke is FIR element which can be good and bad since many bosses resist FIR, although on the few that are weak to it, holy damn.

Yuugi is a little bit better purely against bosses that aren't resistant to FIR or weak to WND or NTR. Youmu is better for randoms or in those three situations. But even outside of those situations, there isn't a huge difference.

And yes, I've worked things out, and at least endgame (like, at Winner) Yuugi's attack is higher enough compared to Youmu's that KO3S deals more then Slash of Eternity Will. Not a huge amount, but still better. Yuugi gets skill levels in ATK cheaper then Youmu, which tilts the scale in her favor; otherwise the difference would be insignificant.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #232 on: May 14, 2011, 08:22:59 PM »
Hmm.  I guess I'm sticking to Yuugi then :V

This game isn't really about who is the best, since you have to build a team, and the "best" team is really based upon a central core, as well as the current situation.  In a sense, it's like competitive Pokemon battling.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #233 on: May 15, 2011, 02:15:23 AM »
Last night: *makes it to Kourin's last phase and dies because Nitori/Suika have no SP left*
Today: *levels 4 more times, fails at least 3 dozen attempts, usually from Nitori dying on round 1*

I really, really, REALLY hate luck-based battles.  This game's really pissing me off now...

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #234 on: May 15, 2011, 07:58:41 AM »
Don't give up, and what's your team?  Maybe switching a few characters around might help.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #235 on: May 15, 2011, 09:01:02 AM »
Last night: *makes it to Kourin's last phase and dies because Nitori/Suika have no SP left*
Today: *levels 4 more times, fails at least 3 dozen attempts, usually from Nitori dying on round 1*

I really, really, REALLY hate luck-based battles.  This game's really pissing me off now...

I think that about sums up how everybody feels at that point in the game.  You aren't alone in that regard.  Keep at it.  The rest of the game is more skill based, unlike start of heavenly demise that will utterly wreck any team.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #236 on: May 15, 2011, 01:52:34 PM »
Don't give up, and what's your team?  Maybe switching a few characters around might help.
Same as the last one I posted (this one), but.  I switched my opening lineup to Tenshi, Meirin, Yukari, and Nitori, and booted Remilia for Sanae because Remilia's weak as hell and Sanae has buffs/healing (assuming she doesn't die first).  My strategy is built around the following criteria:

A) Kourin does not open with heavenly demise (1 hit Nitori)
B) Nitori must not die (FFFFFFFFFF-)
C) Tenshi must not die (this is pretty rare anyway)
D) My party must not be crippled beyond repair (assuming I actually make it through criteria A/B)

EDIT: There we go.  Finally killed that bastard >_>.

ONWARD TO FLOOR 19!!
« Last Edit: May 15, 2011, 03:39:18 PM by chirpy13 »

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #237 on: May 15, 2011, 04:57:37 PM »
Alright my appologies if this is the wrong place, but I'm on Vista with the clean deal disk, not even updated, and it's saying Debug Assertion Failed, is there anyway to help? Outside of getting Win7, which is on my list.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #238 on: May 15, 2011, 05:02:11 PM »
Never heard of that error. You might be missing some game files, note not save files.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 7F
« Reply #239 on: May 15, 2011, 05:08:12 PM »
Well I never patched it with the English patch, would that work?