Labyrinth of Touhou 7F

[Serela]

IMO using Kaggy and/or Flan, who should be capable of 1-shotting the encounters (Or at least 2-shotting with someone else backing up via decently powered multihit) for farming 27F is best. Then you can finish all encounters within 2 turns when Reimu isn't even a high level yet, and in Flan's case, probably start oneshotting everything quickly; though, her MP must be cared for with an Arthuros Gem or somesuch.

[RegalStar]

How do I change the BP of my party members? The cheat table from download doesn't have it, and I don't want to spend two hours killing things with Reimu and Meiling just so I can fight Flandre.

[Ghaleon]

I finally started playing Etrian Odyssey for the first time this week (I'm starting with the 3rd game). Now I can appreciate Touhou Labyrinth in a whole new way. Makes me want to play it again.

You mean you stopped wanting to play it?! blasphemy!

Seriously though, I too played Etrian odyssey after Touhou labyrinth, and really think Touhou Labyrinth was an improvement in many ways. Though I haven't tried 3 yet, just 1 and 2. I did like the shopping experience in Etrian odyssey though, though I prefer the gear roles in labyrinth more, it's more customizeable.
Learning all spells from the get go sounds dumb on paper, but it also is an improvement IMO. But I do miss foes, it's nice having extra challenging enemies that aren't quite bosses (though sometimes they're worse!) on a regular basis.

[Ghaleon]

How do I change the BP of my party members? The cheat table from download doesn't have it, and I don't want to spend two hours killing things with Reimu and Meiling just so I can fight Flandre.

it's not super easy. Basically you just search for 0, then fight one battle with those characters, search for 2, fight one more, search for 4, etc. Generally I nail it at around 6. Sometimes I can't help but get triples no matter how far I go. In this case, crank one to 50 billion or something, see if the savegame portrait changes, if so, that's the one, then bring it down to the minimum if you don't want ot keep that portrait >=P

sorry for double post, kinda stressing, super multitasking atm.

[XephyrEnigma]

it's not super easy. Basically you just search for 0, then fight one battle with those characters, search for 2, fight one more, search for 4, etc. Generally I nail it at around 6. Sometimes I can't help but get triples no matter how far I go. In this case, crank one to 50 billion or something, see if the savegame portrait changes, if so, that's the one, then bring it down to the minimum if you don't want ot keep that portrait >=P

sorry for double post, kinda stressing, super multitasking atm.

What is this BP you two speak of?

[NEETori]

IMO using Kaggy and/or Flan, who should be capable of 1-shotting the encounters (Or at least 2-shotting with someone else backing up via decently powered multihit) for farming 27F is best. Then you can finish all encounters within 2 turns when Reimu isn't even a high level yet, and in Flan's case, probably start oneshotting everything quickly; though, her MP must be cared for with an Arthuros Gem or somesuch.

Oh, I have Flan and Kaggy oneshotting everything, but I mean when they run out of SP, it's nice to have a secondary crew come in and continue grinding as opposed to go back to town. 

Within a few more sessions though, Nitori, Orin and Mystia should be able to reliably oneshot everything, and Okuu is on her way as well.  Giga Flare wipes crabs, but nothing else, sadly, and Hell's Tokamak is disappointing, to say the least.

[Serela]

Yeah, Okuu is... pretty disappointing. Her ability to self-buff MAG and attack at the same time is overshadowed by it reducing her defenses further and the attack being very weak, and her complete lack of a good nuke in the first place; and Giga Flare is massively overshadowed by the fact that they accidentally gave Kaguya MND-ignoring spells and decided to not fix it.

[NEETori]

I don't think the MND-ignoring thing with Kaguya would have been so bad if Giga Flare did more damage or was cheaper or both.  Or wasn't such a shitty element.  Seriously, there's only two (arguably 3-4) characters who pull MYS off well, and they all come before Okuu. 

[Serela]

The cheaper is fairly irrelevant by the time you GET Okuu, because it's late in Plus Disk. And, about the Kaguya thing; Kaguya is just overall kind of OP against random encounters due to the MND ignoring. I don't like it, especially considering it was simply due to a "mistake in data entry" that they decided not to fix.

[NEETori]

IMO though, for Okuu's late joining, slow leveling, low SP growth, Giga Flare's high cost and low damage just make the problem worse. 

And while I consider Kaguya great for random battles, I consider Mystia the broken one :V

[Ghaleon]

beat me to it.. Mystia is broken. Kaggy is at least on the slower side, AND none of her good attacks are non-elemental. Mystia goes first very often, has power, and doesn't get dumbed down by elements.

Flan is broken for trash too. I mean, in my current playthru, I honestly don't see her as good a bosskiller as I hoped. Starbrow break is powerful yes, but it's not any more powerful than KOi3 or megawatt, or Eiki's nuke, etc. Granted, Flan is fast, and the spell has average delay, so she can definately spam it for better dps than anybody. But she's so squishy, and the fact that it hurts her means that even a simple spirit wind or whatever can take her out after spamming break. So you're pretty much forced to use just 1 at a time, and in that situation, wtf are you using flan and not Nitori/Yuugi/etc if not for her amazing trash potential? To make matters worse, as she levels up more and more, her defense falls behind more and more from her attack and her starbrow break goes from being a minor ding, to a holy shit I just nuked the shit outta myself penalty. I mean Flan's health is good, so early game you CAN keep her out for an attack and take a hit because her hp, but later on when break mauls her a new one.. it's risky.

[NEETori]

Flan does have a niche roll in boss battles as a secondary emergency nuker (and is the best one against Yuuka).  Main problem with Starbow Break is medium delay, and the delay isn't low enough to capitalize on Flan's high speed spamming it.  Starbow Break also doesn't have as much raw power as you'd expect from Flandre's massive attack stat, being comparable to Shiki's at best.

That being said, she mows down random encounters like no other, and it's not like she's BAD for bosses (she outpaces Yuugi/Suika for bosses that aren't weak to fire/wind, and you get her long before Shiki, so she can be a second/third glass cannon and not be totally outclassed).  Yuugi and Suika won't beat her for a while anyways, and need affinities in their favor before late plus disk rolls in. 

For me, the top 10 trash clearers, in order, are:
Mystia (disables tough mobs and kills everything else)
Flandre (almost nothing can survive)
Kaggy (see Flan)
Orin (oh yeah)
Cirno (best disabler until Mystia, and her damage output isn't BAD, but it isn't good)
Patchy (slow as SIN, but hits like a truck)
Marisa (only problem being she's stuck with mystic)
Nitori (trolololol)
Renko (disables like a champ)
Keine (tanks and buffs, and can hit decently)

[Ghaleon]

no yuyu? shes excellent at trash IMO, even to those death immune, flawless hits hard, and happens sooner than patchy's flare. Or if you face someone spirit resistant and death immune, she can kill their atp bar by enough that it might as well be a disable (and an unresistable one at that).

[NEETori]

Even late in the Plus Disk, Yuyuko has trouble with SP for continuous spam, or at least that's what mine is doing. 
She'd probably be 11 or 12 for me.

[Pesco]

How do I change the BP of my party members? The cheat table from download doesn't have it, and I don't want to spend two hours killing things with Reimu and Meiling just so I can fight Flandre.

Find the character's details addresses. Stuff like hp/maxhp/level/exp pool etc. IIRC add 000001C8 to the address of the character's level and you'll get the address where BP is stored. I'll confirm it when I get home.

[Anima Zero]

Welp, I started a New Game+ to have fun with in my spare time (That and to have fun with the Plus Disk content again).

Team...

Aya
Minoriko
Iku
Youmu
Suwako
Renko
Meiling
Rumia
Mystia
Chen
Ran
Alice

Doesn't seem that bad right now, but I can't help but wonder if I'm gonna run into issues late game when I don't exactly have a decent 2nd slot person to soak up both physical and magical damage in an emergency.  Youmu could easily get wrecked by magic there, leaving Ran as the only viable choice after her levels and stats get to a decent enough level.  Perhaps I should consider swapping a couple characters around here to rectify that.  I'm still on floor 1 so it shouldn't be a problem to bring in new characters if needed.

[Esoterica]

Iku, Ran, and maybe Alice (don't exactly recall how durable she is) should both be durable  enough for second-slot tanking.

[NEETori]

Alice will struggle early on with physical attacks, but after about midgame or so she'll do fine.  If you go do plus disk, then she'll definitely be able to handle your slot 2 tanking needs.

[Pesco]

Basic address sequence of what you get when hacking out the stats of any girl

Level
Exp pool
Level up rating
recovery rate
max hp
current hp
max sp
current sp
max tp
current tp
Att
Def
Mag
Mnd
Spd
Eva
Att growth
Def growth
Mag growth
Mnd growth
Spd growth
Eva growth
HP growth
SP growth
Att multiplier
Def multiplier
Mag multiplier
Mnd multiplier
Spd multiplier
Eva multiplier
HP multiplier
SP multiplier
Fir aff
Cld aff
Wnd aff
Ntr aff
Mys aff
Spi aff
Psn res
Par res
Mut res
Dth res
Debuff res
hp level
sp level
tp level
Att level
Def level
Mag level
Mnd level
Spd level
Eva level
Fir level
Cld level
Wnd level
Ntr level
Mys level
Spi level
(huge address gap)
spell 1 sp cost
spell 2 sp cost
spell 3 sp cost
spell 4 sp cost
spell 5 sp cost
(huge address gap)
battle points
equip slot 1 item
equip slot 2 item
equip slot 3 item

In the multipliers section you'll see 100 + 2%(for each levelup and levelup bonus) +3%(for each bought skill level) + equipment adjustments.

Battle points address - char level address = 000001C8
Max hp address - char level address = 00000010
Spell 1 sp cost address - char level address = 00000160

[NEETori]

What's a good level for Serpent of Chaos, and for the Hibachi twins if for the bees I plan on only using Kaguya, Rumia and Okuu?

[Pesco]

orz I've forgotten how to fight Suwako and 9F Nitori.

[NEETori]

Wait, forgot as in how to beat or forgot as in how to access?

[Pesco]

Beat. I'm on a normal playthrough btw.

[NEETori]

Suwako:
Komachi can debuff/paralyze her, she's weak to fire, so Yuugi and Patchouli (and to a lesser extent, Alice) can inflict huge damage.  Use magic attacks whenever she's using a physical attack and vice-versa.  If you aren't using Iku, then Remilia is probably going to be your strongest attacker overall.

Nitori:
Bulk up on Fire and to a lesser extent, Cold and Nature resists for your primary tank, and pump her defense.  Also weak to fire, and vulnerable to Paralysis, so Suwako can lock her down.  I think she's immune to debuffs, though.

Obligatory Wriggle poison and Meiling is your best bet for tank here.

[Parallaxal]

Actually, Nitori is even more vulnerable to debuffs than to PAR. She has resistances of PAR-22 and Debuff-20.

[NEETori]

If that's the case, then Komachi is still awesome for this fight.
Although I'll be honest in saying that she'll probably not survive MWLG very easily. 

[Pesco]

I think my Meiling and Yuugi can take a MWLG. I'm not very good with placing my healers and the whole timing thing.

[NEETori]

Yuugi and Meiling should be fine with their massive defense stats and a buff or two.  They should be able to take one MWLG and a second hit, if MWLG rolls low and the second hit is weak and rolls low. 

I think Meiling with a Love MACHINE and two Bomb Rings can take two, but I'm not sure if that's worth messing up her stats.

[Pesco]

Wriggle might be a solid tank since she's been better built for defense than Yuugi. I'll need to stack her affinities though.

[RegalStar]

If that's the case, then Komachi is still awesome for this fight.
Although I'll be honest in saying that she'll probably not survive MWLG very easily.

MWLG is 300% ATK - 50% DEF, so affinity and HP are more important than DEF here.