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Re: Myths
« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2011, 03:13:23 PM »
Heaven Warriors:

The Four Great Heaven Kings (四大天王)

Note: though their title have the word "king", but they're not kings. The term "Heaven King" (天王) is used strictly for a general, or a warlord that's extremely strong and have close connection to the King. They mostly are a group of four (hence the name 四大天王) that is the last resort of every war (defeat them and the king will be vulnerable) also share the name of The Four Great Guardians (四大護教) or the Four Great Devas (四大天). They're the generals of the Deva King (Angel in Buddhism, not to be confused with Celestial in Taoism, though the're both originally human). As time passed, they joined the league of Heaven and became guardians of the Heavenly King, however their positions are somewhat different than the Celestial Sages.

These generals control 4 skies: West, North, East, South and live in the first stage of the Six Desire Skies. In Journey to the West, these four had a battle with Sun Wukong and lost.

East General (Jikokuten): Using a string instrument to calm souls, wearing a white armor. He uses kindness and harmony to dispel evil and lead everything to Buddhism. (kinda Byakuren-ish there). Wood type.
South General (Zochoten): Using a sword or a pair of rings, wearing blue armor. He uses wit to defeat evil. Fire type.
West General (Komokuten): Using a dragon as a whip/rope, wearing red armor. This general has the eyes that can see anything and everything, the observer of the world. He is also the supervisor of the Dragon race. Metal type.
North General (Bishamonten): Using a spear or a similar long weapon (an umbrella), holding a silver mouse and wearing green armor. Water type.

Anyway, the four generals are supposed to be among the best warriors in Heaven, regardless the monkey incident.

3rd Eye God (二郎神) Yang Jian

One of the most popular warriors in Heaven. This god have a 3rd eye on his forehead, which can see everything not only in the world, but also right and wrong, see through disguise and can also see the incarnations of a creature. Yang Jian is famous as a great archer and a spearman. In Journey to the West, he was the only Heaven General that could fight evenly with Wukong. In Hoshin Engi, he has 72 transformation magic (same as Wukong) and is the best warrior. He has a black dog to hunt the youkai, though didn't use it apart from Hoshin Engi. He is the nephew of Heaven King.

Heaven King Li (托塔 李 天王) Li Jing

The Marshal of Heaven, he was the one directed 100k heaven warriors to capture Wukong. He is using various weapons, but the signature is a small tower which can be big or small on his whim. He was capable to capture Wukong easily with this tower, but for the drama he fought with a massive army and never faced Wukong himself.

The Third Prince (三太子) Nataku

The third son of Li Jing and the strongest. Nataku sometimes described as a kid with 3 heads, 6 arms, ride a pair of flaming wheel and fight with spears. He is also a rare warrior that could fight with Wukong more than 300 rounds. His soul was put in a lotus before became Nataku, so he often seen wearing outfits with lotus patterns.

Houyi

Didn't appear in any stories involving Heaven, but he was an archer that capable to kill the sons of Heaven King. He was once a god, but one day, the princes got bored and turned themselves into Suns. The Suns were too much for Earth so Houyi shot 9 of them down. He is also the husband of Hang'e who lived (sometimes the empress or goddess) in the Moon. He then moved to the Sun and became the Sun God. In some tales he got accepted back to Heaven and live with Hang'e in the Moon.

Victorious War Buddha (鬪戰勝佛) Sun Wukong

Once the leader of youkai who was ambitious enough to challenge Heaven. Wukong only lost to Grand Buddha and had to escort Sanxiang to the West. He and the team went through 81 tribulations to became Buddhas. He became the Buddha of fighting and victories, and eventually sacrificed himself to defeat the Infidel Buddha to save Three Worlds. It was revealed that Wukong was one of the golden pearls (舍利) of Grand Buddha, and was necessary to reincarnate Grand Buddha. If this is true, then Wukong is 1/13 the power of Grand Buddha.

There was a myth that on their journey, a spider youkai fall in love with Wukong and tried to take him with her. In this arc, Wukong was fighting with a centipede youkai who was very very strong and almost on the way to be even with Wukong himself. (In myths, there were only 3 youkai that were in Wukong level: a Six-earred monkey, the Ox Demon King, and the Golden Eagle. The last one shouldn't really be mentioned, as he is the uncle of Grand Buddha) The centipede tricked the spider and killed her for stronger power, Wukong couldn't save the girl nor he could say "I love you" to her. Poor girl, died in vain.

More about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJMBp3Esw74

Vietnamese dubs, sorry. This is the part after Wukong messed up the party by drinking all the wine, eating all the peaches and the King sent 100k warriors army to fight him. The Four Heaven Kings failed to captured him, so Yang Lian was put in charge.

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Re: Myths
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2011, 05:03:15 PM »
Poor spider lady. That's so sad...


Also, what about the Yamas? I'm curious about them and about the Ten Kings.
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Re: Myths
« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2011, 05:33:03 PM »
I'm still waiting for ZUN to make a character based on Sun Wukong.

Re: Myths
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2011, 01:02:07 PM »
A question. You know how you said there was a war among the youkai for the soul of a dead god? And Nurarihyon ended up taking it? Well, who was the dead god?

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Re: Myths
« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2011, 12:45:09 AM »
That's what I've been wondering myself, and my research hasn't turned up any clues either.
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Re: Myths
« Reply #65 on: May 03, 2011, 08:28:39 AM »
Awesome thread! I've always liked these kind of stories. 

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Re: Myths
« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2011, 10:31:44 AM »
How exactly did Sun Wukong sacrifice himself? Wasn't he immortal? (what with all those Heavenly Peaches, immortality elixirs, writing his name out of the book of death, having a rock hard body due to the Heavenly furnace etc.)

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Re: Myths
« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2011, 05:23:44 PM »
Sorry I've completely forgotten about this thread due to the depth of the sea of lust where I went to for my honeymoon with Yukari.
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A question. You know how you said there was a war among the youkai for the soul of a dead god? And Nurarihyon ended up taking it? Well, who was the dead god?
I heard it was a Land God who got a massive amount of faith in a vast land. These gods are really deity and their names mostly go after the land like "The land god of Akiba" for example.
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How exactly did Sun Wukong sacrifice himself? Wasn't he immortal? (what with all those Heavenly Peaches, immortality elixirs, writing his name out of the book of death, having a rock hard body due to the Heavenly furnace etc.)
He used explosion. Well it was a terrible joke, but basically he went "AAAAAAARGH" and his body glowed, then he transformed into a golden pearl. Don't ask me further details how he did it, it's just a myth. Sometimes people can't explain everything so they made a grand ending once and for all. They made a series about it though.

I also just found this:
http://www.ihdvd.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=80_111&products_id=187

There is some parts on Youtube too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAlfgLVLto

However, I'd like to hear some western myths, like ghost stories, paranormal activities, UFO or even the Bermuda triangle. Egyptian Pyramids is also a gold mine.

Re: Myths
« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2011, 08:57:00 PM »
So, you would like to hear some other myths? Very well then. I shall tell you about my favorite mythological creature: the centaur.

Centaurs are half human, half horse. Originally they were the children of Centaurus, the son of Ixion (son of Ares) and Nephele (a cloud created in Hera's image by Zeus to trick Ixion), who mated with Magnesian mares. They were said to inhabit the region of Magnesia and Mount Pelion in Thessaly, Mount Pholoe in Arcadia and the Malean peninsula in southern Laconia.

Centaurs are very clever creatures. They also have a kind demeanor to them, and they won't get involved in wars unless their race is threatened. They show the same emotions as ordinary humans, as they are half human. However, they have a different thinking process than humans; they tend to base their actions and thoughts on instinct. This is due to the fact that they have lived their entire lives out in the wilderness as nomads.

You may have the misconception that female centaurs don't exist or are very rare. This is not true. Without females of their race, centaurs would not be able to reproduce and continue to exist. Unlike some people think, centaurs do not have an infinite life; their life span is almost the same as humans. The difference in their lifespan is only by a few years, and that centaurs tend to die younger than humans.

What about their eating habits, then? Like humans, they are omnivores, meaning that they can eat both meat and plants. This is due to their complicated digestive system which allows them to eat this way. Not only do they have a human stomach, but they also have a horse stomach. I, and every other mythological researcher out there, do not know exactly how their digestive systems work yet. I plan on finding out this information in the future as I continue my research.

Unfortunately, even for a myth researcher such as myself, I have not personally seen or spoken to a centaur. I hope that I will sometime in the near future, and when I do, I will make sure to tell you the entire story of what happened.

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Re: Myths
« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2011, 11:11:43 PM »
True Gods, Gods, Native Gods and Lolwut Gods.

Well, I had some discussion with my friends earlier about this, so we think it'd be cool to clear things up a bit. As we all know, in religions, God is the Maker, the Creator, the... God. However, not as clear as the Bible or Greek Myth, Asia have a lot of god....

True God:
In Shintoism and Taoism, there was a "theory" existed before anything, time, space, even the Void. That "theory" contained everything and became the root, the Big Bang and Yin-Yang. Then that theory became the first creature, the first God. This God then made the universe, the world and other creatures. He made the laws of nature and the morality of life. This God is absolute and ultimate. We can say that True Gods are gods that born by the universe or the void, who have power over everything. Grand Buddha is the True God in Buddism. They know too much to care about fighting, argument and feelings. They spend their eternity in their palaces, teaching their disciples the knowledge about the universe. If someone challenge them, they just smile away, because there is no way for them to be defeated unless they allow it to happen. They're the rule.

God:
Born after True God from nature (restricted to planets, stars and so on, not the whole universe) or from other Gods. They have the power over the nature they're in. These gods are different from the True Gods because they have feelings. Heaven Kings, Olympian Gods and Divine Beasts are in this tier. Because of these feelings: love, hatred, jealous, sadness, lonesome,.... they interact with people and clash with each others. These gods are of course very smart, but they made mistakes because they can't get over their own feelings. They often wage wars, which were never ended happy. They made the rule.

Native God:
A "creature", born normally but blessed with an abnormal power (or intelligence). They had an outstanding lives in both positive and negative way. When they died, they were remembered and worshiped by other creatures. Their spirits then not going to the Void, but became something else. Some were accepted by the True Gods or Gods (Hercules, Xuanzang,...) some trained themselves to be the ruler of the land (some youkai like Yamato Orochi or Sun Wukong can be considered Native Gods since people around too scare of them to not worship). These gods can be as strong as Gods, but overall much weaker. However, because they lack of divinity, the only way for them to keep their power is through reputation. The more people know about them, the better. These gods waged wars the most, but we can say that if Gods were the Emperor, then native gods were Kings, or Lords. They fight to gain more land, reputation and worshipers. Because they were "spirits", reputation was the only way for people, their worshipers, to acknowledge them. Without it they're invisible, non-existent to the world. Of course, it doesn't mean they die, or they lose their powers. But for someone that was "Lord", it's unbearable to become "commoner nobody cares about". It's pride.

Lolwut Gods:
Creatures that delude themselves they're gods just because they have some abnormal ability. Of course, these guys shouldn't be underestimated since they really are powerful. They can persuade people to worship them however, their ability is nothing compared to above gods. They're just "geniuses".

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Re: Myths
« Reply #70 on: May 12, 2011, 05:11:12 AM »
Anything about the Yatagarasu or myths about the sun?

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Re: Myths
« Reply #71 on: May 29, 2011, 12:46:03 AM »
Right, did I talk about mirrors? No, good.

Mirror is a piece of glass or metal or something that reflects lights. True, true, but in ancient time, they have another concept: another world. Some people believe that inside the mirror is a world that paralleled ours, or the world that is ours, but in another layer. A layer our mortal eyes couldn't see through.

From many years, we recorded a lot of legends that related to mirrors. Bloody Mary for instance, that particularly gives me a chill when seeing myself in the mirror every night after taking a piss. Why do I mention this now, after half a month nearly page 2 topic? Because I just saw it. Yes, I just saw myself in the mirror, looking in another direction while I'm staring at "me". It was really quick, but his eyes rolled to the left, that can't be my eyes, because if I did I wouldn't be able to see that. He wasn't looking at me for half a second.

Why?

In Asia, we believe ourselves in the mirror have soul, intelligent and attitude too. Just like ourselves? Hardly. Because would you like it, forced to do exactly what that stupid idiot doing whenever he goes in front of the mirror? We don't think so. And we know if we're as smart, we'd do something about. So. The guy in the mirror hates me, and that hatred eventually drives him evil. He is my shadow, my evidence of existence. He shouldn't be acting different from me. But what if he does? What if he's able to move his arms around when I'm washing mine?

He can smash the mirror, can't he?

What'll happen if he could? What'll happen if the only locked gate between his world and mine is broken?

There was some stories that a man encountered such thing, and from that day on people see him acts reservedly (he was right-handed but now left-handed, can't figure out the direction, write completely reversed words, etc) and speaks incomprehensibly. What more, when his colleague meets him in a public toilet, he sees his reflection in the mirror crying and panicking for help.

So, does that mean they swap role? Or there is another one: you know that Buddha is the righteous being, even his hands are both right. So, what'll happen if you place a mirror in front of a Buddha? You'll get a two left-hands Buddha. Now, in Vietnamese and (I think) Chinese, left-right also spoken as wrong-right. Therefore in the mirror, there is a Buddha that's full of Wrong, or Evil. How terrifying could it be? The mirrors "reflect" the opposite of us, so some people believe the reflections are not just the image, but the attitude, the heart and the way of thinking as well. So if you're good, then you in the mirror is bad and vice-versa.

Taoism used this theory to make Ba Gua mirror, which basically keeps the evil out of the house, because the mirror will create the good version of the youkai/demon and fight them in the spirit world. The Ba Gua sign is there to ensure only "good" will be made, so it won't kill off you or nice people coming to your house.

Like other haunts, mirror haunt can happen when you use the mirror in midnight and stare at it more than necessary. Other situations are taking a bath too late at night, your shadow can become active and choke you from behind. There is no particular way to avoid it, since the reflection is you yourself. So if you get scared, try to face the shadow/reflection so you can see what it's doing. Running to a completely dark room helps, since your shadow won't have a proper form to harm you. Stay outside if it's midnoon, because the shadow will be completely under your feet (like, just 2 dots). Otherwise there is no way to prevent it. The haunted shadow/reflection can kill other people by harming their shadow/reflection too. It is quite common.

I think you've heard of stories about people that doesn't have a shadow or a reflection, in which case, they're dead. There is no way one can't have shadow or reflection, if the shadow/reflection of theirs get so strong to leave the host, the world is done for. If that shadow/reflection is evil (which is 99% of the time) then he can literally harm everyone by doing things to your shadow/reflection. If one night you suddenly see someone in the mirror where you're alone in the room, run from anything can reflects your image. Mirrors, a plastic bag, water surface, computer minitor.... anything can allow him to touch you. Because you and your shadow/reflection are connected, who knows what will happen....

By the way, the story about my reflection wasn't looking at me is true, just happened like 10 minutes ago and not the first time. Bye, gotta sleep.

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Re: Myths
« Reply #72 on: May 29, 2011, 02:05:12 AM »
Well, I've finally decided to post my own thing about a certain, fairly old, urban legend.

So.  Who here has heard of Spring-Heeled Jack?

The earliest recorded cases of Spring-Heeled Jack took place in the late 1830's in Sheffield, England (England would be where most of Jack's antics would be reported). Though there were a couple of subtle differences between each case as to the appearance of this...  lets call him a cryptid for convenience.  So anyway, though there were various subtle differences, the main similarity among the eyewitness accounts was that Jack had glowing eyes, wore some kind of oilskin garment, looked like a "gentleman," and had very sharp claws.  Of course, the reason this cryptid became known as Spring-Heeled Jack was because of his ability to jump over walls and fences that were at least ten feet tall, however people had also reported seeing him jump from the street to the rooftops, or just jump across the rooftops.

Anyway, early in this legend's life, Jack usually kept to jumping out from behind walls to scare passers-by or he would attack the occasional lady and rip her clothing (which usually also resulted in feeling the terrified victim up).  Once help was called for or help arrived, he would then bound away and escape using his powerful jumping ability.

Later on, the accounts of Jack's antics became more violent as he would jump out in front of a carriage, causing the driver to swerve, or he would attack women more violently.  He also became involved in the murder of a thirteen year old prostitute.  As the years went on and the cases piled up, he also reportedly had very cold, clammy hands and he gained the ability to breathe or expel blue flames from his body to disorient the victims of his pranks.  This ability related to flames would eventually be heard about in numerous other cases and be considered one of Jack's many odd traits.

Eventually Jack's antics spread to such places as Liverpool and London.  His attacks seemed to slow down before starting back up in the late 1870's, and he started to become even more bold, attacking soldiers on sentry duty and much more.  People could never catch him as he jumped away when they thought they had finally cornered him and apparently he was also immune to bullets, as they would apparently bounce off of him with a metallic clang.

The final recorded case apparently took place in 1920, but there are still sporadic sightings of Jack and he also seemed to frequent the United States quite a bit from the 1930's to the early 1950's, however Jack is still sighted in the United States from time to time as well.  So the question remains.  Is, or was, Spring-Heeled Jack actually a man who spawned a whole bunch of copycat pranksters?  Or is he actually some kind of cryptid that looks like a man?  Either way, he must be badass if he's eluded the authorities for close to 170 years. :3
« Last Edit: May 29, 2011, 02:19:35 AM by Hakasu »

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Re: Myths
« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2011, 02:28:51 AM »
By the way, the story about my reflection wasn't looking at me is true, just happened like 10 minutes ago and not the first time. Bye, gotta sleep.

Holy crap, the creepiest stuff happens to you man.  :ohdear:
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Re: Myths
« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2011, 02:33:03 AM »
Holy crap, the creepiest stuff happens to you man.  :ohdear:
Agreed.  Maybe his family has some kind of spiritual history or something.

Actually...  That'd be kinda awesome.

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Re: Myths
« Reply #75 on: May 29, 2011, 02:38:08 AM »
Yea, you're just awesome, Forte...

Now I'm never ever gonna look into a mirror again...
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« Reply #76 on: May 29, 2011, 12:22:22 PM »
My family just gets the occasional ghosts and apparitions over at granny's house. I've experienced a close encounter with one once, too.  :ohdear:

But you? Man, you even had freaking CHUCKY once and you're still (hopefully  :V) sane. I bow to you, sir, for being awesome.
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« Reply #77 on: May 29, 2011, 01:49:41 PM »
Well, my family doesn't have much experience with ghosts, except my mother and me. We are not religious but we do believe in God, Buddha, Hell and such. My mother and I had a lot of dreams... of course, let me tell you about dreams....

Dream is the pictures, motions, sounds, feelings the brain produces when we're asleep. I have a whole book talking about dreams by various scientist, but I'm not gonna bother you with it. You can see that many thing happens when we dream. Mendeleyev ultimately finished the Periodic Table from his dream, Tartini re-played his dream and composed "Devil's Thrill"... People too, also have nightmares and stuff, but how many actually had their dream affect their normal life? I'll tell you some stories, and I swear my arse that they are all true:

- My mother moved to HCM city after married my father's family, her parents stayed in Hanoi. We go to Hanoi every summer to visit our relatives and everything is nice. One night in 2002, my mother was washing clothes on the 2nd floor. She then heard my grandma's voice "T., T. (annon name for obvious reasons), dad's gonna visit you tomorrow before he goes." My mom was surprised and looked out the balcony, but no one was there. Of course, my gramps were in Hanoi, thousand kilometers away. She thought she was just tired and went to sleep. Tomorrow nothing happened, and her story didn't really get our attention. But that night, I had a dream. It was very strange when you started to dream and knew exactly that "damn, I'm dreaming." I had a lot of those before and I could change the dream on my whim, you know, make a girl appears, change her look and then shag her like rabbits... but that dream I couldn't change anything at all. I was laying on my bed, unable to move, then I saw a cat, big, black cat jumped at my mother. The cat had my grandpa's face. I woke up violently, ran to my parents' room and saw her was awakened too. Her face was all pale and she said "I just saw a black cat with your grandpa's face jumped at me." About ten minutes later, the phone rang. It was from Hanoi... my gramp passed away...

- About 4 years later, 2006, we started to raise cat. We love cats and I bet you do too. However, my dad is a very very very bad pet keeper. He thought animals aren't human, so they only need one meal a day and get treated like just an animal they are. Needless to say, the cat became very weak and sad, the rest of the family (me, mom, my little sister) got really pissed off and tried to treat the cat better, we often had extreme arguments with my dad about it. One day, the cat stopped eating. He said "see, because you fed him too much now he has stomachache." It died a few days later. From then, I started having dreams about the cat jumping on my chest to sleep, just like how it was before. It told me it loved the family, but my dad will pay someday. But my dad didn't share the same dreams, he actually never dreamt about those stuffs. He told me that he saw the cat walking on 2 legs like a human when he rearranging the storehouse at night. It was creepy but as a true man he didn't get scared and simply kicked it away. The next day, my dad fell off the stairs and injured his back very bad. He told us that when he was laying down the stairs, he saw the cat, standing on 2 legs, grinned at him.

- Long time ago, like more than 10 years, my dad's dad was keeping a parrot. It never talked and seemed completely useless.  Me and my cousin loved to play with it, while I gave the seeds and sometimes hit it with a stick, my cousin pluck its feathers and flicked its head. One day, we had a cold. It was expected because we were playing under the rain. That night, I was sleeping and relised I couldn't move. I was like "fuck, dreaming again." The parrot was looking down at us. And my cousin looked terrified. It started jumping and struggling in the cage, screaming in a very strange voice: "Vomit! Vomit your fucking gaaaaall!", "I'll kill youuuuu!" then broke the cage to fly at us. I was so scared I woke up, and saw my cousin next to me shaking, I woke him up too. He said to me "It was scratching me!". The family downstairs was noisy, so we tried to walked down. We saw everyone standing by the parrot's cage, where the bird laid down. My mother said it suddenly laughing like a maniac and dropped dead. When we told everyone about our dream, they said it was fortunate we awoke on time, or the parrot might really kill us.

- 7/7/2007. I remember it because there is no way I could forget it. That night I was playing Red Alert 2 until midnight, and started hearing the sound of chopsticks hitting. I've been hearing that noise every night since I was a kid, so even when my mom said it's a bad omen, I didn't care. Things went normally, except the noise was louder and louder. I felt a presence in the room, but didn't dare to look back. Suddenly, my game crashed. I was like that's it I'm going to bed. The moment I shut down the computer and stand up, something grabbed my legs. I jumped back and stared under the table, nothing. Somehow chilled, I hurried to the bed. In Vietname, there are a lot of mosquitoes at nights so we had to use sleeping net, unless we have an air conditioner. Anyway, I went to sleep. Then I opened my eyes, looking at the ceiling and unable to move. I knew exaactly what's gonna happen... the night was quiet, but a wind from nowhere blew the net, it got really bent inside, I'm not sure if I described it right, you know how clothes and nets are like when a wind blows right? Yeah, like that. The net was blown very far inside my bed, and suddenly it got pierced by a hand. Half an arm from the side violently piercing the net, leaving holes. Very quickly it reached my hand, grabbed it. The feeling was realistic, too realistic it hurt. It was like someone trying to crush my hand into pieces. I was scared but fuck that shit, I have a black belt in Taekwondo, I crushed it back. We were grabbing each other really tighly for a minute, then an invisible head popped in, I know because the net made the shape.  I used my other arm to punch it. Again and again. I couldn't move my lips, I can't shout or scream of even breath, let me tell you, that's an uncomfortable feeling. Finally the head broke and the "crawl" disappeared. I woke up, looked at the clock. 2am. So I was only asleep for like 15 seconds. My mom rushed to my room and asked why I was laughing so loud at that time. I told her about the dream but she said she only heard me laughing like in some sitcom comedy.

- I had an older sister, who was born in 1989 in Hanoi. But we had a very bad cold in Hanoi that year, and my sister died. My parents were young, so they got over it after a year. Then they moved to HCM city.  The year of 1993, my mother was bearing my little sister. One night she had a dream, my older sister visited us and said: "I've gotten a job now, I'll be protecting someone in the Comb Street (a street in Hanoi) so I can't look after you anymore. Please be careful, because I've been protecting you for 4 years, the bad omens stacked up and can be very bad once I'm gone." When my mom spoke to my dad, he laughed and said it was just nonsense. In that year's summer, my dad had a car accident and broken his leg. Because he was a sailor, this injury cost him his job and our main income. We were one of the richest but just after one day, the customers never visited us again. My mom didn't mention the dream again because she knew my dad would be furious.

So, those are what I could recall as "spiritual dreams" that I knew and all true. I know some people that had dreams and encountered ghosts when they did something when they awake, and some results are very nasty. But there is not like all dreams were bad. Some people who was helping someone or being very close to someone, dreamt that the person visited and advised, or even helped them from bad things. My friend in the secondary school once told me his dad dreamt of his closest friend who died 2 years ago, told him that there is a ghost in the house. He listened and hired a shaman, the guy dug randomly in the garden and found an abandoned grave. His family then brought the bones to the temple and since then their business went very smoothly.

You can find thousands of these stories in Vietnam, mostly from the countryside or areas near the river.

So about your comments on me. I have to say that yes, I've encountered a shitload of stuffs in my humble 21 years of life. Actually 17 years, these last 4 were peaceful as hell in Plymouth (except last night and some nights before that) :3 Some fortune-teller said I had a strange sign. I was born in a specific hour in a specific place at a specific day, which granted me an ability to encounter the spirit world, but they couldn't harm me. Because of this combination the encounters shall be very brief, but as long as I'm not dwelling too far, they will leave me alone.

Now I know Touhou.

Anyway, when it comes to this we Asians often use the Zodiac to guess the ability we possess. My dad for instance, is a Dog, so he "guards" the house and cannot be harmed directly from spirits. However many spirits hate him and his "spiritual" life is in constant danger. This is somehow true since he never had nightmares, and whenever he's at home, we can sleep in peace. My mother is a Tiger, she is strong but the spirits like to gather around her (as tiger is the King of Forest), some may even want to possess her for the power the zodiac has. She by far had the most experience with ghost in the family. I'm a Horse, so I can sense the spirits, and have the ability to run away from them. My sister is a Rooster, she's a stupid cowardly scaredy-cat, but she never encounters any spirit in her life. (rooster is the messenger of the Sun) Completely safe, that kid.

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« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2011, 02:49:08 PM »
Anything about the Ram?
Or Dragon and Snake for that matter.
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« Reply #79 on: May 29, 2011, 03:00:53 PM »
Lol, I'm a rooster too. No wonder that one spirit I encountered at granny's disappeared as soon as I saw it.  :3

My mom, aunts and my oldest sister and brother tend to have dreams about relatives who have passed away, but they're always good dreams where said relatives advise them, or just come and say hi. Personally, I've never had such dreams, but I guess that's my rooster ability at work.  :3



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« Reply #80 on: May 29, 2011, 03:40:55 PM »
Rooster here as well.  That probably explains why the closest thing to paranormal experiences I've had are seeing shadows out of the corner of my eyes.

My Grandpa on the other hand...  He's had a couple of really odd experiences from what I've heard.  The one that comes to mind right now being that years ago when his friend died, he was driving home and he saw the Devil sitting in the back seat through his rear-view mirror.

Apparently, Thomas the Tank Engine isn't one to take crap from anyone.

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« Reply #81 on: May 29, 2011, 04:58:08 PM »
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« Reply #82 on: May 29, 2011, 05:12:34 PM »
Man Forte, I'm kinda jealous of your experiences also. I mean damn, the only strange things I've encountered are the occasional strange voices or sounds I hear just before I wake up in the middle of the night.
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« Reply #83 on: May 29, 2011, 06:18:37 PM »
Man Forte, I'm kinda jealous of your experiences also. I mean damn, the only strange things I've encountered are the occasional strange voices or sounds I hear just before I wake up in the middle of the night.

Oooh! I get that too!

And sometimes I feel like something's looming right behind me when in the dark. It's a feeling I've had ever since I was a little girl.
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« Reply #84 on: May 29, 2011, 06:24:37 PM »
You too?
I've always gotten that feeling myself, ever since I was just a sprout myself.
In fact, it takes all my willpower to not flip the fuck out and run screaming, it's that unnerving.

But for some reason, as soon as I close a door on whatever it is, the feeling dissipates.
I also get it when I walk into a dark room, like there's something in there, and it's not a pleasant thing, whatever it may be.
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« Reply #85 on: May 29, 2011, 07:01:38 PM »
It's not that nice, although I do proud of them sometimes, cos I can use them to attract some attention in the pub. But when you're alone in midnight... believe me the memories alone can give you the chills. I'm happy I'm still sane despite all of those. Call me cool or awesome or anything, I'd gladly give you all to get a normal life. About noise, I hear it every night when the light's out. It's... hard to describe. Just like "uuuuu" constantly in my ears. Every single night for at least 19 years of my life, now I just don't give a damn. It's a part of my life already.

Anyway, it's Remiliamesseswithmeagain fate for you, can't live with it, can't live without it. I'll share some info I know about "omen" or "sign" so you can guess what's coming to you: (they're just tales, so not even 90% correct)

- Dog: they're believed to have the 6th sense and guarding your house. They said when the dog barks continuously, it's a living creature (like Bow, wow, wow,...) but if they bark separately (like bow,grr... bow,...) then it's a spirit.
- Cat: black, long cat is always a messenger of devil. When you see one wander outside your windows, lock it.
- Wind: the wind often blows harder when a spirit is coming, they're likely strong enough to blow a candle, but who uses candles in this age?
- Stranger in a mirror: someone is watching you.
- Strange noise in the night: something is lurking around, commonly related to gap youkai, possessed objects in the room or boogeyman, etc.
- Dreams: depends on what you dream of. Only true if you know it's a lucid dream yet you cannot change that dream world with your will.
- Shadows near the stairs/toilet: something is hiding in the places with least "living Chi", approach with caution.
- Baby's cry: babies are the same as dog, have 6th sense before became a grown-up. So if your infant cries for nothing, be very careful.
- Woman's intuition: Men have lots of Yang (Sun) while women have lots of Yin (Moon), so they tend to encounter spirit much often than men. When your girlfriend says she feels something strange in your house, do try to believe her.
- Wake up seeing yourself doing something in a third-person view: you may have been possessed. If you see yourself sleeping, then your soul just got separate with your body. You can wander around but try to get back as soon as possible.
- Someone you know acts differently, like half-asleep with weird faces: he may be possessed, oh simply sleepwalking.
- Voices calling your name: there are various reasons in this case. But if you don't know whose voice that is or that person shouldn't be around at that time and place, then do NOT answer.

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« Reply #86 on: May 29, 2011, 07:45:15 PM »
Oooh! I get that too!

And sometimes I feel like something's looming right behind me when in the dark. It's a feeling I've had ever since I was a little girl.

I get this as well. And not just in the dark.
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« Reply #87 on: May 29, 2011, 07:58:52 PM »
- Dog: they're believed to have the 6th sense and guarding your house. They said when the dog barks continuously, it's a living creature (like Bow, wow, wow,...) but if they bark separately (like bow,grr... bow,...) then it's a spirit.

My sister's dog used to do that when they were alone at home. Then she sprinkled holy water around her house and she never barked like that again.

It's probably because she lives in Florida. LOTS of indian burial grounds there. Maybe her neighborhood was built on one.  :derp:
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« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2011, 08:17:08 PM »
Wait I think I know who Hanzo K. is

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« Reply #89 on: May 29, 2011, 08:39:11 PM »
Who?  :derp:
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