Darker than Black Mafia (Game Over Scum win)

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

30 minutes until Yonowaaru gets prodded.
Whee~

I hate ~*~timezones~*~

[Serela]

Zakeri is also bad atm for being horrible ninja-voter.

WHAT IS SCUMMY ABOUT THIS, SERIOUSLY

ugh.

If there's 30 minutes left in the day, and you said you were going to hammer capt.h soon so there isn't a no lynch, so then I went and just hammered him myself, does this suddenly make me really scummy? No. It doesn't. It is almost completely irrelevant in that case whether you or me hammer, and that case is pretty much exactly what happened here, and I'm irritated people are calling this "HORRIBLY SCUMMY". It's not like there isn't plenty of good, justifiable reasons to think Zak is bad -anyway-!

Anyway at this point I'm just starting to rage at it whenever I see someone say it because it's annoying me and I think I should just drop the point unless somehow a wagon starts on Zak that's decent-bit driven by him hammering when two other people were about to do it themselves anyway.
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30 minutes until Yonowaaru gets prodded.

Well, if he doesn't show up within 12 or so hours, then I'll just unvote him since he'll start lookin to be modkilled anyway. If he DOESN'T get modkilled though... he really needs to be lynched. He's either massive lurkscum or a COMPLETELY useless townie.

NeoSerela - Seems to be more active today, so far. I agree with his assessment of the capt. h hammer; however, he seems to have dodged UK's question, which is not a good move.

She said I had 24 hours k >: I gave her one name already, and now I'm back with a fresh mind to get one or two more! Hopefully two.

K, someone or other I seem to remember asking me to go reclarify how I feel about UK today. Well, the tl;dr version is she was a bit funky at the start of the day and then has greatly shaped up since then. I don't find it particularly odd that she isn't voting or making cases yet or anything since I assume she's waiting for her targetted lurkers to respond to her before she evaluates us, which seems sensible. Leaning town on her.
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People who are scum! Lets see who I think they are. First of all, Yonowaaru for reasons already stated and rather obvious anyway,

Second of all, Schezo! Weeeeelp, lets see here. Your first post is RVS, second is "hey there sorry for not posting", third post is little more then a prod avoidance commenting on Shadoweh's roleplaying, we're on page 5 now by the way. Oh hey, look, it's a ~*~real post~*~ now!
>"Helepolis might be bad, will look into it if he keeps active lurking" K this is fine I suppose
>"Can't read Bard but people reacting to his shenanigans SURE ARE INTERESTING"
>"conq plz be srs"
Then he makes a nice paragraph on capt.h and votes him. The second and third points from his post are supposed to look like they're insubstantial, by the way.

Oh hey, wait a second... this is the FIRST VOTE ON CAPT.H. You heard it here folks, Schezo is a lurkylurker whom started the wagon on capt.h, and capt.h flipped town, by the way.

He does make another post before the day ends. He returns to our newbie Helepolis, stating "Well I like some things you say but not how you say them and I don't know if you're town or scum hmmm", which is fairly okay, I suppose. Then he comments on our two wagons, his comments on Zak being limited to "Tunnels on UK lets kill him", and then continues with a nice paragraph on capt.h which would probably be a lot cooler if capt.h wasn't A.confirmedtown and B.So goddamn good at looking anti-town, as we saw last game, that I would be amazed if scum didn't try to get an easy lynch on him.

Also, that was Page 8, his fourth post, and the last one until D2 starts around page 15. Well then!

You know what? I like this case a bit more then "hi yonowaaru doesn't exist", although I'm still completely fine with lynching Yono if he doesn't get modkilled or suddenly look a lot better, if that's what the rest of town decides to do.
##Unvote ##Vote Schezo

...okay I guess UK wanted one more but I just spent all this time making an awesome Schezo case ;_; Is this case good enough to count as two and bump me up to those 3 you wanted?
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As for Bard, I feel that as things develop, his intentions shall become more clear. Since no matter what he does, it's clear it comes with an action that must be used inthread, I think things will focus into greater clarity after just a day or two!

Helepolis looks like town trying fairly hard to me, at the moment.

Not sure what to say about Rdj/Dormio/Mokou/Conq right now. Probably should do a reread on Zak. I keep looking at his avatar every time I scroll past it, anyway.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

The thing I didn't like about Zakeri's ninja hammer was that Conqueror wanted to make another post beforehand.
I mean, yeah, sure, I was ready to hammer in case Conqueror didn't make the post in time or something, but still.
We didn't know whether or not we were allowed to talk after the hammer, either.
Also, why are you so adamant in defending Zakeri anyway?

[Serela]

Also, why are you so adamant in defending Zakeri anyway?

Nah, just that one particular reason because IMO it's a bad reason to think he's scummy. As I've said, there are OTHER reasons that I don't mind if you think he's scummy for. Like that period he wasn't voting for, or if you thought his UK case was bad, or if he was tunnelling on UK (still haven't checked this *cough*)

[Bardiche]

Schezo, why would I be afraid to be on the townflip, and did you miss that I voted capt h? Not paying attention? Orz

The rest of the "cases" on me are baloney, but I'll bother responding to them once I get home! Cheer!

[Bardiche]

Also ##Lapdance: NeoSerela

[Helepolis]

WHAT IS SCUMMY ABOUT THIS, SERIOUSLY

ugh.

If there's 30 minutes left in the day, and you said you were going to hammer capt.h soon so there isn't a no lynch, so then I went and just hammered him myself, does this suddenly make me really scummy? No. It doesn't. It is almost completely irrelevant in that case whether you or me hammer, and that case is pretty much exactly what happened here, and I'm irritated people are calling this "HORRIBLY SCUMMY". It's not like there isn't plenty of good, justifiable reasons to think Zak is bad -anyway-!

Anyway at this point I'm just starting to rage at it whenever I see someone say it because it's annoying me and I think I should just drop the point unless somehow a wagon starts on Zak that's decent-bit driven by him hammering when two other people were about to do it themselves anyway.

Nice raging there. But I don't see anywhere in my line stating he is scum. All I said is 'bad' as in bad player. First going emo about the game, withdrawing vote then surprise-voting the last minute/second without talking/communicating.

So what's up with the  rage? And Zakeri still did not explained himself.  If you didn't notice, in D1 I personally seen him has Townie together with Capt H. Though it seems I need to reconsider that statement of mine unless Zakeri starts talking

You should stop skimming/poorly reading my posts and read them, so you don't make up weird assumptions for yourself.

[Yonowaaru]

ffs, how did I forget about this?....


Eh..
I totally understand you want to lynch me now, and you should, but you could also let me gather my bearings and actually DO something.


Pretty please?


(totally not trying to cute everyone out, mostly because I'm a guy.)

[Serela]

You should stop skimming/poorly reading my posts and read them, so you don't make up weird assumptions for yourself.

lies I read it perfectly fine ;_;

I'm sorry, then. When people say "bad" in mafia they're often referring to scummy bad, and not bad play bad, so I misinterpreted it.

Also hiiii Yono. You've got about 48 hours before deadline to look less terrible! That should be sufficient time :3

[Serela]

Also I'm currently trying to decide whether Bard is a sexy beast or a creepy perv.

[Helepolis]

I am more like trying to decide whether to bandwagon lynch Yonowaaru. He comes back every 23 hours and 59 minutes 59 seconds and that is it. Such players, I could care less if they were Town or Scum or if it was an amazing phrase such as: "It is tactical, I win like this".

OT: Modco should next time do speed Mafia. 24h for a day. Crank up the thrill, make people rush more for more interesting effects.

[pesco]stfu noob. Go play facebook mafia for that :V [/pesco]

[UncertainJakutten]

Serela: I don't know what's so hard to get about 5 sentences or less. Part of the reason for that was so that you wouldn't magically cop out with "OH BUT I SPENT SO LONG ON CASE B SO I WANT A BREAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKK"

Yeah, no, third name, or at least a damn good reason you don't suspect anyone else.

@Yono 457: Still got a clock on you! Sure, you can get your bearings...if you do so within the next seven and a half hours.

That is 7.5 hours left for you to produce some content.

@Hele 460: Wait, are you proposing a policy lynch on Yono? Do you not think he's scum?

So, let me get this straight, Serela. Schezo is scum for...starting the wagon on capt. h.? And...because capt. h. is an anti town player, scum would just be chomping at the bit to lynch him? Is there anything else to your case that I missed?

[Serela]

Oh, uh, I think I forgot about the 5 sentences or less part.

So, let me get this straight, Serela. Schezo is scum for...starting the wagon on capt. h.? And...because capt. h. is an anti town player, scum would just be chomping at the bit to lynch him? Is there anything else to your case that I missed?

That Schezo was also lurky and his 2 non-completely-ignorable posts on D1 weren't particularly exciting other then the paragraph on capt.h? >:

[Bardiche]

Also I'm currently trying to decide whether Bard is a sexy beast or a creepy perv.

Definitely a sexy beast!!

That he let Shadoweh buddy up to him all of day 1 without trying to even push her away just rings an alarm for me since, as scum he has nothing to lose from letting a townie clear him and then taking each others backs, which is hard to read through because of all the silly sonnets or what have you, you both keep posting.

Or I had that magical QT where we knew our love was puuuuuuuuure. No seriously bro, I was convinced she was town enough so why the hell should I let having fun get in the way of having fun? Besides like I said, Shadoweh was soft-claiming a name: her character's renumeration is to passionately make out with someone everytime she uses her power. Her shenanigans had a reason, and so did mine.

His last minute jump off of Capt H is also terrible since it seems as if he knew he was going to flip town so by getting on Zak, which was probably not going to happen at that point, he can seem to float over suspicion of being on the town flip.

But I was on capt h like hot cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

If you indeed used the ##Touch power to turn Shadoweh into bomb, it explains Serp's death as well. He shot Shadoweh and died during it (boom da ze). There is no way 2 vigs from Scum killed both Shadoweh and Serp.

How does this implicate me as scum, again? I had no way of knowing who would target Shadoweh, mind, just like I can't explain why people defended me D1. (other than that they might've thought I am town, which I have no way of knowing!)

If you indeed had the power of turning people into bombs, it won't be working this time unless you paid the price which currently we don't know what. In DtB it says it might affect body / food / living style. So unless someone lost the ability to speak suddenly, I will be hunting you.

Well, maybe you should pay attention! This inattentive player is killing me! (almost literally!)

Why would I bombify the player with the most townie outlook to me? Wouldn't I have, y'know, MADE CAPT H INTO A BOMB SO I COULD GET TWO FOR ONE IF I WERE SCUM?!

Lolz. Okay, fuck it, you're all being like, suuuuuuuuuuuuper dense.

[Bardiche]

Super dense because read it, Bardiche never posts walls of text without purpose. Read the first letters of each paragraph.

MARVEL. SHOCK. GASP. BARDICHE ACTUALLY BREADCRUMBED HIS ROLE ALREADY.

I do make bombs, and I wanted to obfuscate this and confuse scum and play a jester so I could ride to LyLo and then bombify someone, vote 'em. Worst case, I bombified a scum, he dies, town wins! Best case, I bombify a town, scum hammers and dies to bomb, town wins! Town would win! Two scum quicklynching'd reveal themselves!!11!

But since everyone's so adamant about making it obvious what I can do, I don't have business hiding it anymore.

No, I don't have a QT with Shadoweh, I just figured she was town due to how heavily she was laying on what her character was, and I can confirm (I'm Maki) that characters and roles may be linked closely.

Also, you're dense because you complained yesterday that I was HOLDING QUIET. Hey, look bro, did I talk after using Touch? Oh wait, I didn't.

Self-fulfilling prophecy, my renumeration is that I shut up for the rest of the game day after using my ability.

Now, can we drop the case on me that reads "Bardiche is scum because he is scum" and get back on track with actual scumhunting? I admit I should've probably used a different approach but ze gambits, I love them.

Clearly failed because townies are getting too distracted.


Also if you try to lynch me I will turn myself into a bomb and take you with me. :V No idle threat bro.

[Bardiche]

Also, I should mention it's irony Amber might've likely died due to me. :V

[Serela]

Yeah I figured it was obvious as soon as you said Shadoweh was a bomb, and highly inferrable as soon as you said Serp died from killing Shadoweh.

Don't worry though, your power can still be useful! Err, it's just, a little harder. You can make someone totally unattractive to the scum NK via making them a bomb :3 The problem is if we think they're scum, suddenly we've got a problem. Unless there's some townie bulletproof lying around to be the hammer. I wonder what the chances of that are!

Or you could be mean and cockblock town's lynch when you don't like it :V

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Why does stuff always happen when it passes 12am?
I hate timezones. So very much.
Well, I'll make sense of this in the morning.

[Bardiche]

I would not try to cockblock town's lynch. Better to remove someone who a majority think is scum than to protect someone a majority thinks is scum.

Besides, the bomb will remain a bomb for the duration of their lifetime. Even if I die it won't get cancelled. So that'd be a permanent cockblock, and I would not use my touch on someone I wasn't sure is town.

Which means myself, but making myself an unattractive target for scum seems like I might as well have been made a bomb. I wanted to lay traps QQ.

Shoulda been less obvius and yet more obvious I guess!

FWIW, I don't think zakeri is the scums so I can stop playing the jester I guess.

##Unvote: Zakeri

I'm currently bothered by the terribleness of Helepolis' push on me (where and how did I slip, and why does your case read like "Bardiche is scum because he is"?), but I can't say who's scum immediately without re-reading the thread with serious in mind, other than just "I think this person is pretty town".

[Helepolis]

So wait let me get this straight (if my English doesn't fail).

The link you made in #464, I read it, understood it, but aside from that... I got nothing to say except my #443 was... correct?

[Helepolis]

So #354 from Shadoweh, was that Bardiche what I think it was?

[Serela]

But stop, Helepolis!

So unless someone lost the ability to speak suddenly, I will be hunting you.

Someone did lose the ability to talk when Bard used his ability. He did, until the end of the day. So, this means you won't be hunting him, then?

[Janitor Morgan]

@mod: My vote is on Serela, not Bardiche. Won't be as of this post, though.

...though given Serela's new case on Schezo, I decided to go back and review Schezo's last post. While I don't agree with Serela's point about Schezo starting the capt. h wagon, I DO notice that Schezo tries to paint Bardiche as scummy by hopping off the wagon. Guess what Bard didn't do? Hop off the wagon. Either you just weren't paying close enough attention, or are trying to confuse us; neither is helping.

##Unvote
##Vote: Schezo

@ Bardiche #464: Yeah, this completely tears apart that other theory I said I had. After reading Hele's quote from the wiki, I had figured you were some sort of delayed vig, but that wouldn't have made any sense in retrospect.

Anyway, your roleclaim makes sense to me, and I'm thinking you're town.

[Pesco]

Voting
Zakeri(1): Dormio
Schezo(3): Zakeri, NeoSerela, rdj
NeoSerela(1): Hourai
Bardiche(1): Schezo,

Not Voting
Schezo, UK, Conqueror, Yonowaaru, Helepolis, Bard

11 alive, 6 to lynch.
Over 52 hours remain

[Helepolis]

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That night, at the Scarlet Devil Mansion...

"You... called Lady Scarlet?" Helepolis carefully asked while closing the door behind him of the living room.
"Helepolis..." She spoke as her eyes glared, piercing through me. Her glare was so fierce, I couldn't breath any more. Sweat broke out and dripping from my hair, down to my neck.

"You realised it didn't you?" she asked. "That girl who visited us yesterday. . ." Without saying anything, I lowered my head, staring at the floor. "Are you going to continue being a disgrace to us and your friends?" she continued to lecture.

I slowly raised my head and looked into those scarlet eyes of my Mistress. "My Lady, what do you want me to do?" I asked while clenching my fists.

Suddenly her wings spread out widely, her eyes started glowing, emitting strange radiance. Her charisma, it was starting to radiate. It was fierce, as if it was going to break the room or furniture any moment. She stepped forward and placed her index finger on my forehead. Was I going to be killed by her? Punishment? I gritted my teeth, closed my eyes. "Damn it, I should have talked with her, she visited us for a reason. Damn it! What should I do?"

But Lady Scarlet then smiled and whispered in my ear while tapping my forehead: "A devil does not cry, start using that brain of yours". she then turned around and walked away. I just bowed and remained like that until she left the room.
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Maybe I should have rejoined the WuftD game, what do you think, Bardiche?

[Yonowaaru]

So, starting from day 2:


-Bard is still screwing around. I can't see through this veil he's taken.. Saying there was a bomb doesn't give me any tells, for he just seemed to be trying to make sense out of what was going on. Not that I agree, though. Imo one was killed by vig and another by maf.


-NeoSerela has a point on me. I get a townread from her.


-UK wants to lynch lurkers. Nothing bad with that, I guess


-Zakeri is odd..  He is just... ehh.


-Schezo is a lot the same case as me, but he's not convinced me he's town quite yet.


-I get a definite town read from RDJ, more so than from Hele. Hele's more scum somehow.


For now, I'll go this way..


##vote Bardiche

[Serela]

Yono, you seem to uh, have not read the part where Bard is a role that turns people into bombs

[Schezo]

Whoops, I guess I was looking too far back to where you unvoted but you did get back on.

Ok Bard, so am I right to say you two didn't have a quicktopic or anything?  So by just her softclaim, are you saying that she really did something to you or all of those fun scenes are just fun?  Also, why is Zakeri just magically cleared from you now?  Did he do something I missed that makes you clear him?  If you are going to stay serious since you just roleclaimed I could believe that your actions were drivin with good reason.

Serela: My graciousness, most of your case on me feels like just because I started the Capt. H wagon I'm scum?  That is just so bold to throw out at me when for starters, you were third on that wagon, which means you must have agreed he looked like scum or you would have voted elsewhere right?  You were arguebly the vote that actually got his wagon rolling in the first place and I didn't see you having quelms with me being on it yesterday. Your reasoning against me would hold a lot more substance if it wasn't for the fact that you stayed on capt h all day then have the audacity to just fling out a weak case on others over that. I'll second that it's also nice you made only a real case on me then just stop. I'm willing to drop Bard for now since he has a few logical answers until he answers my questions.

Hele: I find myself going, I agree with you and then I don't.  The whole Bard was silenced to pay for his power makes perfect sense in context and seems to poke a hole in your theory. But I find you are onto something when you go, Bard really could be scum and is just playing off his plan to get two townies killed. Shadoweh was obviously suspicious enough to get vigged by a proactive townie so why he's so adamant about him knowing she was town that early in the day makes me think something is up. I admit I would have gone after Shad today just for dancing around so weirdly but on a whole this feels a bit conspiracy theorist.

This is tough but I'm willing to put Hele on the backburner for now and give Bard a chance to answer my questions.
##Unvote:
##Vote: NeoSerela

[UncertainJakutten]

Oh, hi Yono. Way to completely fail to answer my question.

If you missed it, it's easy. Post three names, people you think are scum. Post five sentences or less about why you think they're scum. Don't just talk about D2, talk about the entire game. You...didn't even name anyone as scum in your list, really.

So, originally I was going to call out Schezo on not voting out of his three professed suspects, but he kind of really has a point on Serela. Also, should be voting around 5 PM EDT today (3 hours, if I'm not still having my soul crushed by idiots).

[UncertainJakutten]

Wow, literally no one posted since I last posted. You all suck at this.

##Vote Yonowaaru

Had enough of your games. Serela is my second pick. Schezo is about the only lurker I'm willing to think MIGHT be town right now.