Touhou 13 ~ Ten Desires announced! - Thread II (Reitaisai 8 scheduled!)

[Drake]

That's pretty much the only way I want to see her back right now.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Oh, come on. What you got against Mima?

I mean, she's got green hair.

What's to hate?

[Kips McKipzerson]

Oh, come on. What you got against Mima?

I mean, she's got green hair.

What's to hate?

I'm seconding this. Plus, Mature women~

[Zengar Zombolt]

I prefer red hair.
I think that tells enough about what do I mean.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

What DO you do?

Meiling fanart/fanfics?  :derp:

[Romantique Tp]

It's a secret to everybody...

[E-Nazrin]

It's a secret to everybody...

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[Savory]

I'd like to speculate that all the bosses will be related to ghosts, but...I have a feeling I may be wrong. But I'd love to see a lantern youkai and jiang-shi.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Lantern youkai is seconded. We need a partner for poor, lonely Kogasa.  :ohdear:

[Savory]

I can't think of any others...

Er...zombie dragon?  :3

[Zengar Zombolt]

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[Drake]

Uh, I don't mean to say Mima sucks and should die; it would just be unfathomably weird to just throw her in as some boss for what might be no real reason. An odd way to return to the series. At least have her appear somewhere before "holy shit you are kicking my ass ow"

[Kips McKipzerson]

Uh, I don't mean to say Mima sucks and should die; it would just be unfathomably weird to just throw her in as some boss for what might be no real reason. An odd way to return to the series. At least have her appear somewhere before "holy shit you are kicking my ass ow"

Well, she is kinda a ghost, and this game kinda is based on a graveyard.

[game2011]

Maybe there will be a slug goddess.  Get what I'm trying to say?

[あさらぎシジェ]

I prefer red hair.
I think that tells enough about what do I mean.

OIC, da ze.

[Nyyl]

mima will come back as a portrait-less, dialogue-less, spell card-less stage two midboss

edit: ah crap i was on the last page and now my post is out of place. oh well

[shadowbringer]

mima will come back as a portrait-less, dialogue-less, spell card-less stage two midboss

edit: ah crap i was on the last page and now my post is out of place. oh well

quite reminds me of Nue (also begs the question: was she the midboss of LLS Extra as well? /wildmassguess)

[Yakitori]

It's a secret to everybody...

+1 internet cookie for the Zelda reference :3

Seriously, though, I think the Prismrivers are going to come back in this game.

[DX7.EP]

Seriously, though, I think the Prismrivers are going to come back in this game.

I'd love to see them in here too, complete with a theme remix or a new one entirely. The Prismriver boss was one of my favourite in PCB, so a return would be very nice.

[Agent of the BSoD]

Seriously, though, I think the Prismrivers are going to come back in this game.

I doubt it. I have a feeling that it's going to be all new characters. (besides the playable ones, obviously)
Though I could be wrong, and I often am. :derp:

[Zengeku]

Guys. .
No mature women + No Mima = Best game ever

You can't help but like that about him. I find it tiresome, lazy shitposting. Can't say I miss it.

I know. I know.I just find him funny, that's all.

[Mimachiro]

I doubt it. I have a feeling that it's going to be all new characters. (besides the playable ones, obviously)
Though I could be wrong, and I often am. :derp:

I actually get the feeling Kogasa will be the midboss for the stage than ends with a lantern youkai, but other than that, all new characters for sure, with a Mima cameo in one of the Reimu endings (maybe a Marisa ending). I would be just fine without the prism rivers returning; I don't see how they would anyway, seeing as there's four playable characters.

[Letty Whiterock]

oh shit no they used the main character as main character twice

Oh, don't even do that.

I don't care that Reimu keeps coming back. She's the staple MC. But come on, give us SOMEONE ELSE. Someone we've never seen before. Espgaluda II got a new playable character. Deathsmiles II got two new playable characters. Castle Shikigami III got six entirely new playable characters, only one of which was from a previous game, and that game wasn't even in the Castle Shikigami series. All of these new additions were alongside the existing cast, so I'm not saying that Reimu, Marisa, and whoever else should be removed entirely. I'm saying that I want a new perspective from a character that I've never seen before. I don't want to see new characters from a perspective I already know. It's predictable, it's boring, and it's become so repetitive that when a new character appears on screen, as far as I'm concerned, they're spaceships that will have dicks put into all their orifices at a Comiket down the road. I don't care about any of these bosses anymore. They're a means to an end. Give me someone new to control, a new pair of eyes that I can see Gensokyo through, so I can actually get attached to them, just like if I'm reading a book. Touhou is incredibly character-based, unlike, say, Deathsmiles, where those girls are just kinda there, and you don't really care if they go home or not.\

Essentially, give me a Rin Satsuki, and let Touhou evolve.

[N-Forza]

Hey, Youmu hasn't been playable in a regular shmup since IN. I think that's fair enough.

[Tengukami]

Yeah, and I don't think recurring Reimu and Marisa is preventing Touhou from "evolving". But I'd also like to see some variety.

[game2011]

I think spin-offs are better games for brand new playable characters.  I mean, the mainstream Mario games all have Mario as the main character.  Will people like it if a there is a mainstream Mario game that features a whole new character despite Mario's name being in the title?  Before you ask, I prefer calling Super Mario Land 3 and Super Mario World 2 Wario Land and Yoshi's Island respectively.  I don't even consider them true Mario games , but Wario and Yoshi games.

Anyway, back on the topic about possible bosses...

Kinds of characters that I think will most realistically be in the game:
- Ghost
- Jiang-shi
- Kogasa as a dialogue-less midboss who has no spell cards unless you're playing on Lunatic difficulty
- Chōchinobake

Wishful thinking
- a character based off Sadoko (for the lulz)
- Mima
- Mima's new witch apprentice
- Slug goddess

[7TC7]

Seriously, though, I think the Prismrivers are going to come back in this game.

Layla Prismriver would be nice. She and Youki were were both mentioned just like that and never gone back to, so those two are a possibility for new yet old characters. I'm expecting to see at least one of those two or the Saigyou Ayakashi mentioned somewhere in this game.
Mima and Kana Anaberal are also possible old ghosts that could somehow make an surprising return and still be on topic of the game.

I personally wouldn't be very surprised though, if the first three stages would be ghost related and the main game would lead us somewhere totally different again, just like UFO took us to Makai or just as we thought SA's last three stages would be inside or on the way to the Palace of the Earth Spirits while it was only stage 4.
ZUN likes his plot twists.

[nintendonut888]

Essentially, give me a Rin Satsuki, and let Touhou evolve.

It's probably a silly thing to say, but this would be going against the established conventions of the series, wouldn't it? Outside of Reimu herself and the phantasmagorias, a character has never been playable without first having been fought as a boss. Introducing a playable character without having first introducing her would seem unnatural and forced for ZUN. Plus, they have to actually have a reason to get involved. One thing I can admire about ZUN is that he does not throw in past characters just for the sake of them being there (odd for a PC-98 fan to say that I know). The vast majority of Touhou characters would have no reason to be involved in anything beyond their initial game's incident, nor would they have a motivation to force themselves into one. Can you think of any reason for, say, Reisen to care about underground spirits for example? That is why the range of characters is so thin, because Gensokyo has designated a few people to solve their problems for them, and only rarely will anyone else get involved.

Or at least, that's my angle. I do agree that it'd be lovely to see more playable characters, but I also like to see the integrity of the series kept intact.

[Kips McKipzerson]

also the fact that its easyier to make a boss of another game into a PC because well, You actually have something to work with. The fans love Yukari, and see her as a manipulative prick. ZUN wouldn't have known this if he just added her in as a PC before making her a boss. At least, thats how I see it

[Savory]

It's probably a silly thing to say, but this would be going against the established conventions of the series, wouldn't it? Outside of Reimu herself and the phantasmagorias, a character has never been playable without first having been fought as a boss. Introducing a playable character without having first introducing her would seem unnatural and forced for ZUN. Plus, they have to actually have a reason to get involved. One thing I can admire about ZUN is that he does not throw in past characters just for the sake of them being there (odd for a PC-98 fan to say that I know). The vast majority of Touhou characters would have no reason to be involved in anything beyond their initial game's incident, nor would they have a motivation to force themselves into one. Can you think of any reason for, say, Reisen to care about underground spirits for example? That is why the range of characters is so thin, because Gensokyo has designated a few people to solve their problems for them, and only rarely will anyone else get involved.

Pretty much this. Of course, a new playable character wouldn't be too bad, just so long as we get an idea of their motives. Then again, knowing how ZUN does dialogue, that wouldn't be very difficult for him to accomplish. For example, in a game like this, we could have a new playable character who's actually involved in the incident and wants to stop it herself before it gets out of hand.