Touhou 13 ~ Ten Desires announced! - Thread II (Reitaisai 8 scheduled!)

[XephyrEnigma]

There's still the frustration factor of dying continuously and having to restart stages. That's what I was getting at when I mentioned my disdain for the partial lives/bombs. Again I say, not the best thing ever, but certainly could be worse.

[Drake]

MORE LIVES I WANT MORE ALL OF THEM GIVE THEM TO ME
AND GIVE ME BOMBS TOO EVEN THOUGH I DIE CONSTANTLY WITH SOME IN STOCK

[Zengeku]

MORE LIVES I WANT MORE ALL OF THEM GIVE THEM TO ME
AND GIVE ME BOMBS TOO EVEN THOUGH I DIE CONSTANTLY WITH SOME IN STOCK

Yes and while you are at it, give me decently powerful shots that can kill all the stages effortlessly.
That is called Sakuya from PCB.

[Barrakketh]

SakuyaB <3

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Reimu A.

I can't live without my homing amulets.  :derp:

[Yonowaaru]

Meh, I've preferred ReimuB ever since Mountain of Faith. (Even in Subterrenean Animism! Suika is the best partner.)
And before that, I loved Yukari. And before that (though I actually played it after that) Mima.

[Aba Matindesu!]

Mima.

Best shot type ever. =highfive=

[Letty Whiterock]

Jumping in the middle of this conversation to say what frustrates me the most about Touhou games.

You know what I would LOVE to see in the main series? A new character introduced as a PLAYABLE character immediately. Almost every shmup series in creation does that, and we haven't had a new playable character to start off with since, like, Phantasmagoria games. Outside of the TSS-clone games, we haven't been introduced to a new PC since Touhou 01. Rin Satsuki could have been one of the best thing to happen to the series in this light, but instead, all we ever get are recycles. Look at this!

HRtP: Reimu (introduced!)
SoEW: Reimu (again)
-PoDD: Marisa and Mima (from the last game), alongside Ellen, Kotohime, Kana, Rikako, Chiyuri, and Yumemi ( Innovation! )
LLS: Reimu and Marisa (from previous games)
MS: Mima (from three earlier games) and Yuuka (from the last game)
EoSD: Reimu and Marisa (reset)
PCB: Sakuya (from the last game)
IN: Yukari, Alice, Youmu, Yuyuko, Remilia (from the last two games)
-PoFV: Everyone was from a previous game, except for Aya, Medicine, Komachi, and Shikieiki ( Innovation? :| )
MoF: Reimu and Marisa (reset... again, and Aya was a boss)
SA: Reimu and Marisa (with familiars that all appeared in previous games)
UFO: Sanae (from the last two games)
10D: Sanae and Youmu (from previous games)

Give us someone new off the bat, and let us experience them by seeing the world through their eyes. That's just me, though!

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

But...

But recycling saves the planet! D:

[Alfred F. Jones]

That pattern is just the groundwork for the Watatsuki sisters becoming the sole protagonists of every new game ever.

Even the fighting games.

Even the photography games.

Especially the photography games.

[HakureiSM]

Reimu A.

I can't live without my homing amulets.  :derp:

*highfive*

HRtP: Reimu (introduced!)
SoEW: Reimu (again)

oh shit no they used the main character as main character twice

Hey Lulo :derp:

[Suikama]

So let's say the next game has a difficulty somewhere around this. Would it be "easy" if the game gave you unlimited lives? When you watch that video, do you think "oh shit that looks easy he got through it?"

I like how Bananamatic has 19 thumbs up even though he probably meant the opposite of what everyone else was thinking :derp:

[Zengeku]

I like how Bananamatic has 19 thumbs up even though he probably meant the opposite of what everyone else was thinking :derp:

What would everyone think he means? Some weird meme?

[Savory]

Any game that gives you unlimited lives would be easy since you can't lose.

Ninja Gaiden says hi.

[Suikama]

What would everyone think he means? Some weird meme?

I'm just guessing here, but I'd say people think he saying "jesus fucking christ so many bullets" when really he means "jesus fucking christ this is so goddamn retarded"

[Zengar Zombolt]

I think it's "Jesus Fucking Christ Touhou isn't boring anymore"

[Suikama]

Except you can't actually die so :derp:

[Tengukami]

I think it's "Jesus Fucking Christ Touhou isn't boring anymore"

You can parse anything Bananamatic says to be "touhou is too hard/too easy", depending on who he wants to rile up.

[Zengeku]

Yeah. Can't help but like that about him. Trolling or not, at least he gets me amused.

Ninja Gaiden says hi.

The NES ones or the PS3 ones? Regardless, don't you have to beat stuff in order to proceed? Having infinite lives is, almost, the same as having infinite continues if you are dropped back to a checkpoint. In the case of that Touhou hack, you don't.

[XephyrEnigma]

I honestly can't believe I started this by basically saying "I don't like [game mechanic]...

[Tengukami]

Yeah. Can't help but like that about him. Trolling or not, at least he gets me amused.

You can't help but like that about him. I find it tiresome, lazy shitposting. Can't say I miss it.
 

I honestly can't believe I started this by basically saying "I don't like [game mechanic]...

This discussion has been going on looong before you arrived here, trust me. Even though there's hardly a consensus over what Touhou games "work", UFO is especially contentious. I'd even go so far as to say it's the most contentious game in the series.

[Naut]

Best game in the series

[DX7.EP]

I honestly can't believe I started this by basically saying "I don't like [game mechanic]...

...so this thread turns into a "I want TH13 to have xyz and not abc since I hate the latter" thread as a result! Great!

As if any of our complaints will even be addressed in final product or even the demo....

-ninja'd-

Even though there's hardly a consensus over what Touhou games "work", UFO is especially contentious.

Well of course, since every fan has his/her own reasons for liking Touhou and consequently will use them to play said games. UFO just had plenty of system changes that made it such an issue, or so it seems.

-again-
IMO IN and PCB were better overall, but UFO is one of the most fun in the series. The system changes really give it a distinctive feel and offer variety in play style.

[Paper Conan]

I can't say I really hate the UFO system. It's not as awesome as EoSD/MoF, yet with the UFOs you can basically harvest a lot more lives than in the other games.
The only problem I have is that collecting UFOs is quite very risky if you can't maneuver around a bullet-filled screen.

Oh, and why are people complaining about lack of resources? Learn to lunatic moar.

[shadowbringer]

Best game in the series

for me, any game with grazing (or some sort of difficult memorization stuff, not to mention point-blank/near point-blank grazing) can't be best game in the series, especially when there's IaMP on the same series   (HRtP and the Phantasmagorias are also fun, because they're freestyle-friendly, among other things)

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

May we go back to our pointless speculation of possible bosses?  :derp:

[Tengukami]

Personally, I'm fascinated by the fact that if you look over the last few pages of this thread, it's gone from being HME to being TARC to being HME again. Gameplay mechanics or storyline. This is what people get excited about when it comes to these games, and it's interesting to see the two points of emphasis in one thread like this, where topics of discussion that have been knocked around for a while on their separate boards get mixed together. I dunno, it's one of the things I like about these leading-up-to-Touhou-1X threads.

[あさらぎシジェ]

May we go back to our pointless speculation of possible bosses?  :derp:

Sure.

If Mima is to make any possible appearance, it's as either Extra/Phantasm if she actually appears in the gameplay, or an Ending.
It's unlikely she'll be the final boss all over again (as lol as that would be) but I think Extra/Phantasm is at least realistic.
Ending cameo is pretty much guaranteed if she's in it at all though.

[ふとくていなねこじょおう]

Final boss Mima.

Definitely lol.  :3

Though if she were an Extra of Phantasm boss, it'd be, dare I say it, quite surprising.

*is suddenly unsuprisingly attacked by a one-eyed umbrella*

[Jana]

If Mima comes back, I want her to be lurking in the background of one of the ending scenes.