Iku Quest On Iki - A Z-Machine Adventure

[Kilgamayan]

> "That is the core issue, is it not?"

[Hello Purvis]

> "That is the core issue, is it not?"

>"I am presuming you intend to elaborate," says Remilia.

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[Kilgamayan]

> "Well, consider how this will all look to an outside observer, especially given what has been going on elsewhere in Gensokyo in relation to Bhava-Agra's fall. Have I already informed you as to how Reimu, Marisa and Sanae are occupying themselves at present?"

[Hello Purvis]

> "Well, consider how this will all look to an outside observer, especially given what has been going on elsewhere in Gensokyo in relation to Bhava-Agra's fall. Have I already informed you as to how Reimu, Marisa and Sanae are occupying themselves at present?"

>"There may have been a passing reference," says Remilia.

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[Kilgamayan]

> "Then I will elaborate. They are currently stationed at three strategically selected Bhavagran islands, waiting for you to arrive at any one of them in the interest of further conquest. They, who all initially distrusted me, two of them to the point of assaulting me on sight, and having had no proper demonstration of my people's innocence like you have, are standing in defense of my home and my people's home, to prevent further territorial conquests on your part. They, who have been given no truly concrete evidence as to the innocence of my people, are still now acting under the assumption that you have turned megalomaniacal. How will the course of action you have proposed to me work to rectify this embarrassment, rather than exacerbate it?"

[Hello Purvis]

> "Then I will elaborate. They are currently stationed at three strategically selected Bhavagran islands, waiting for you to arrive at any one of them in the interest of further conquest. They, who all initially distrusted me, two of them to the point of assaulting me on sight, and having had no proper demonstration of my people's innocence like you have, are standing in defense of my home and my people's home, to prevent further territorial conquests on your part. They, who have been given no truly concrete evidence as to the innocence of my people, are still now acting under the assumption that you have turned megalomaniacal. How will the course of action you have proposed to me work to rectify this embarrassment, rather than exacerbate it?"

>"We feel they will view it differently once the initial excitement dies down," says Remilia.

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[Shadoweh]

Don't have any ideas yet, but I think you should tone down the hostility a little. The tone comes off as if you're negotiating with the enemy.

[Kilgamayan]

If this is negotiating with the enemy then I have no idea how to proceed, because I didn't think I was doing that at all. I'm presenting her with outside viewpoints.

[Shadoweh]

I'm not sure how to explain this, words .. You spent alot of page 6 attacking her for the tracking items. Your viewpoints afterwards come off as if undertoned with 'this is why what you are doing is wrong'. She doesn't seem to be insulted though so you're probably doing fine. I'd suggest slipping in that you're just trying to present outside viewpoints into the conversation.

[Kilgamayan]

> "They may or may not if the situation is isolated, but given potential testimony from people across Gensokyo, as well as these recent proceedings, in trying to look at all I have seen and heard for myself from the point of view of someone that has already made the assumptions about you that they have, I would be surprised if they simply let it go."

[GuyYouMetOnline]

I think Yamameko's handling this well. However, Yamameko, I do happen to have a suggestion, and that is to take the direct approach. Remember the idea of having Remilia appointed to be in charge of the islands in question? I think we should present that idea to Remilia. If she's told that she can make her 'improvements' to the islands but she still refuses to return them, well, at that point the meglomaniacal intent would be right out in the open. That's one of the reasons I like the direct approach; when properly used, it can force the true motivations out into the open.

[Hello Purvis]

> "They may or may not if the situation is isolated, but given potential testimony from people across Gensokyo, as well as these recent proceedings, in trying to look at all I have seen and heard for myself from the point of view of someone that has already made the assumptions about you that they have, I would be surprised if they simply let it go."

>"It seems that We have more faith in the people of Gensokyo than you," says Remilia.

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[Kilgamayan]

The thing is that I don't want her to be "in charge" of the islands.

> "Quite the contrary. I have plenty of faith in the people of Gensokyo, as the overwhelming majority of them either started this incident non-confrontational or became non-confrontational rather quickly."

[Hello Purvis]

> "Quite the contrary. I have plenty of faith in the people of Gensokyo, as the overwhelming majority of them either started this incident non-confrontational or became non-confrontational rather quickly."

>"Then We are not worried," says Remilia.

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[Kilgamayan]

> "Really? The overwhelming majority of Gensokyo that has had interaction with Bhava-Agra has, I believe, had an ultimately positive experience. Despite initial misunderstandings around the human village, peace eventually reigned, and Gensokyo residents were invited to partake in Bhava-Agra's peach harvest in moderation. Bhavagran parties have helped restore shadows to Gensokyo residents and have defended a granary against a tsuchinoko. The Lunarian doctor has helped Bhavagrans injured in the fall. The musician poltergeists have played their songs for Bhavagrans, who responded by volunteering to clean their mansion. Gensokyo natives and Bhavagrans alike mingle in the village. There has been good will and harmony present all across the land. There has been only one Gensokyo party who continues to hold any meaningful degree of what can be perceived as hostility, and the opinions of them from their fellow Gensokyo natives have soured. Now this party has been presented with ample evidence of Bhavagra's innocence, evidence that no one else in Gensokyo needed to co-exist with Bhava-Agra, and they respond to this evidence by feigning willingness to negotiate the restoration of a normal way of life to an innocent and peaceful people while preparing an action plan that would decrease the inherent trustworthiness of those people, a people to whom trustworthiness is very important. You are really so confident as to think this will not sour Gensokyo's opinion of that one party further?"

[GuyYouMetOnline]

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The thing is that I don't want her to be "in charge" of the islands.

I see. I misunderstood your intentions, then. And, well, I don't really want that, either, to be honest.

[Hello Purvis]

> "Really? The overwhelming majority of Gensokyo that has had interaction with Bhava-Agra has, I believe, had an ultimately positive experience. Despite initial misunderstandings around the human village, peace eventually reigned, and Gensokyo residents were invited to partake in Bhava-Agra's peach harvest in moderation. Bhavagran parties have helped restore shadows to Gensokyo residents and have defended a granary against a tsuchinoko. The Lunarian doctor has helped Bhavagrans injured in the fall. The musician poltergeists have played their songs for Bhavagrans, who responded by volunteering to clean their mansion. Gensokyo natives and Bhavagrans alike mingle in the village. There has been good will and harmony present all across the land. There has been only one Gensokyo party who continues to hold any meaningful degree of what can be perceived as hostility, and the opinions of them from their fellow Gensokyo natives have soured. Now this party has been presented with ample evidence of Bhavagra's innocence, evidence that no one else in Gensokyo needed to co-exist with Bhava-Agra, and they respond to this evidence by feigning willingness to negotiate the restoration of a normal way of life to an innocent and peaceful people while preparing an action plan that would decrease the inherent trustworthiness of those people, a people to whom trustworthiness is very important. You are really so confident as to think this will not sour Gensokyo's opinion of that one party further?"

>"We feel," says Remilia, "That you are misrepresenting us. As well, We would remind you that you have agreed to take responsibility for this incident."

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[Kilgamayan]

> "I will gladly give of myself as best I can in taking responsibility for this incident. What you are asking of me, if we can even call it asking, is not something where I am giving of myself. You are asking others to take responsibility in my stead."

[Hello Purvis]

> "I will gladly give of myself as best I can in taking responsibility for this incident. What you are asking of me, if we can even call it asking, is not something where I am giving of myself."

>"We seem to recall that you were speaking to us on behalf of Bhava-Agra during that meeting," says Remilia.

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[Kilgamayan]

> "I seem to recall Bhava-Agra and Volatilis Scarlet Regnum coming to a mutual agreement that a third part was to blame. I also seem to recall taking responsibility on behalf of my Gensokyo native friend in that meeting."

[Hello Purvis]

> "I seem to recall taking responsibility on behalf of my Gensokyo native friend in that meeting."

>"Just so," says Remilia. "While you were speaking on behalf of Bhava-Agra. We would be very disappointed if you had misled Us."

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[Kilgamayan]

> "It was my understanding that the dispute between Bhava-Agra and Volatilis Scarlet Regnum had ended when they had come to a mutual agreement that a third party was to blame, and that my actions to defend my Gensokyo native friend were made by myself alone and not Bhava-Agra as a whole, as Bhava-Agra as a party was no longer relevant to the situation, having already had their issue resolved. I am sorry if you saw things differently."

[Hello Purvis]

> "It was my understanding that the dispute between Bhava-Agra and Volatilis Scarlet Regnum had ended when they had come to a mutual agreement that a third party was to blame, and that my actions to defend my Gensokyo native friend were made by myself alone and not Bhava-Agra as a whole, as Bhava-Agra as a party was no longer relevant to the situation, having already had their issue resolved. I am sorry if you saw things differently."

>"We merely saw things as you portrayed them," says Remilia, frowning now. "We would ask, then, why no effort was made to distinguish this beforehand?"

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[Kilgamayan]

> Raise an eyebrow.
> "Because, with all due respect, I thought it to be fairly obvious, not only in saying that I would take responsibility instead of saying that Bhava-Agra would take responsibility, but in the fact that your request for recompense would originally have been designed for the third party, and the third party could not possibly have fulfilled a request for control of land that was never theirs to begin with."

[Hello Purvis]

> Raise an eyebrow.
> "Because, with all due respect, I thought it to be fairly obvious, not only in saying that I would take responsibility instead of saying that Bhava-Agra would take responsibility, but in the fact that your request for recompense would originally have been designed for the third party, and the third party could not possibly have fulfilled a request for control of land that was never theirs to begin with."

>"Why would We make the same requests of her as We would of you?" asks Remilia, "It would be like asking a maid to research and a librarian to cook dinner, don't you agree?"

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[Kilgamayan]

> "But you know what a maid and a librarian specialize in. Unless you have inside information that even I do not have, you would not have known what skill set the third party possesses, and therefore most likely have produced a general recompense task that could have been completed by anyone."

[Hello Purvis]

> "But you know what a maid and a librarian specialize in. Unless you have inside information that even I do not have, you would not have known what skill set the third party possesses, and therefore most likely have produced a general recompense task that could have been completed by anyone."

>"Given that responsibility was taken, we aren't certain why it's important anymore," says Remilia.

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[Kilgamayan]

> "Then perhaps I need to be clearer. Given the near inevitability of the...generic, shall we say, nature of your recompense request of my friend, I took responsibility on her behalf fully expecting you would ask the exact same thing of me, as it would be something I could fulfill, being a "generic" request. This expectation was exacerbated by the rather generic nature of the two examples you provided."

[Hello Purvis]

> "Then perhaps I need to be clearer. Given the near inevitability of the...generic, shall we say, nature of your recompense request of my friend, I took responsibility on her behalf fully expecting you would ask the exact same thing of me, as it would be something I could fulfill, being a "generic" request. This expectation was exacerbated by the rather generic nature of the two examples you provided."

>"We cannot see why you would expect this," says Remilia, shaking her head slightly.

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[GuyYouMetOnline]

Do you think she's doing this deliberately? Because I di, and if you agree, then I would recommend calling her out on it.