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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #720 on: January 04, 2011, 11:03:38 PM »
SA isn't really a bomb spamming game like MoF is, though, since it's a lot less generous with power items.


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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #721 on: January 05, 2011, 03:20:47 AM »
NDNB IN Stage 6B, whee. I'm not satisfied though; I only captured 2 of the Last Spells. I'm still going to go for a perfect run.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #722 on: January 05, 2011, 05:04:32 AM »
I was going to say something about this but I instantly forgot it(stupid memory).
I didn't remember exactly what I was going to say so I'm just gonna say this.
I'm actually quite fine with the dodging, I only bomb alot cause I'm lazy :D.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #723 on: January 05, 2011, 08:25:29 AM »
SA isn't really a bomb spamming game like MoF is, though, since it's a lot less generous with power items.

And the bombs are nowhere near as powerful. If you had MoF bombs in SA you could wipe out any boss encounter with if you get to them at full power because of the bosses tendency to their attacks split between very simple ones and hard ones.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #724 on: January 07, 2011, 04:18:46 AM »
PoFV Lunatic 1cc with not cheating character. yay

Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #725 on: January 07, 2011, 08:03:39 AM »
PoFV Lunatic 1cc with not cheating character. yay

Pff... look at him. He thinks playing as Aya is cheating.  :V

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #726 on: January 07, 2011, 10:14:28 PM »
OH YES~!

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #727 on: January 07, 2011, 11:58:39 PM »
Finally finished off SA extra for good. Got inspired and 1cc'd SA normal with Marisa C. Thanks to her cowardly bomb I only died once (on Parsee's last WTF), but the clear of extra was with no lives left. 8( Glad I never have to do that again.
nintendonut888: Hey Baity. I beat the high score for Sanae B hard on the score.dat you sent me. X3
Baity: For a moment, I thought you broke 1.1billion. Upon looking at my score.dat, I can assume that you destroyed the score that is my failed (first!) 1cc attempt on my first day of playing. Congratulations.

[19:42] <Sapz> I think that's the only time I've ever seen a suicide bullet shoot its own suicide bullet

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #728 on: January 08, 2011, 01:57:21 AM »
Haha oh wauw.

You'll never guess what the Extra boss's last pattern is in Suwako's Jumping Shooting Game.

Sapz go check it out.  :V
I just watched your vid of it.

I highly approve. :D
Finally finished off SA extra for good. Got inspired and 1cc'd SA normal with Marisa C. Thanks to her cowardly bomb I only died once (on Parsee's last WTF), but the clear of extra was with no lives left. 8( Glad I never have to do that again.
Spoiler:
So, is this next on your list of Extras to perfect?
Let's fight.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #729 on: January 08, 2011, 02:02:17 AM »
Spoiler:
So, is this next on your list of Extras to perfect?

Spoiler:
SA extra was my first extra perfect.
nintendonut888: Hey Baity. I beat the high score for Sanae B hard on the score.dat you sent me. X3
Baity: For a moment, I thought you broke 1.1billion. Upon looking at my score.dat, I can assume that you destroyed the score that is my failed (first!) 1cc attempt on my first day of playing. Congratulations.

[19:42] <Sapz> I think that's the only time I've ever seen a suicide bullet shoot its own suicide bullet

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #730 on: January 08, 2011, 02:10:20 AM »
Yay!

EoSD 1cc Normal, Marisa B

I just have ReimuA to do and I'll have gotten all of the Normal characters, but she sucks so...

On another note, first time perfecting Meiling (sad isn't it?).  I thought I was so screwed when I lost that life with 4 freaking bombs to Star of David.  Nope!

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #731 on: January 08, 2011, 02:22:18 AM »
Got inspired and 1cc'd SA normal with Marisa C. Thanks to her cowardly bomb I only died once (on Parsee's last WTF), but the clear of extra was with no lives left. 8( Glad I never have to do that again.
Be glad you can 1cc that game. I have yet to pull off a 1cc on normal with that ridiculous game. (freakin' Orin  >:()
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #732 on: January 08, 2011, 02:43:55 AM »
Spoiler:
SA extra was my first extra perfect.
...

Well played. BV

Spoiler:
So I guess that means you should do EoSD's instead, right?

Schezo: Congrats!
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #733 on: January 08, 2011, 04:11:57 AM »
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Well played. BV

Spoiler:
So I guess that means you should do EoSD's instead, right?

Spoiler:
Spoiler:
That was my second
nintendonut888: Hey Baity. I beat the high score for Sanae B hard on the score.dat you sent me. X3
Baity: For a moment, I thought you broke 1.1billion. Upon looking at my score.dat, I can assume that you destroyed the score that is my failed (first!) 1cc attempt on my first day of playing. Congratulations.

[19:42] <Sapz> I think that's the only time I've ever seen a suicide bullet shoot its own suicide bullet

Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #734 on: January 08, 2011, 04:16:54 AM »
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #735 on: January 09, 2011, 03:05:35 AM »
Wait... is EoSD Extra actually becoming fun again?
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #736 on: January 09, 2011, 06:54:41 AM »
Wait... is EoSD Extra actually becoming fun again?

Especially fun at 90FPS.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #737 on: January 09, 2011, 10:38:03 AM »
Wait... is EoSD Extra actually becoming fun again?

What would be wrong with it? Its probably the hardest EX Stage around there. Last time i tried i died at Maze of Love because i forgot it was coming and tried to shotgun... did cap QED though so i guess its cool.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #738 on: January 09, 2011, 04:41:46 PM »
What would be wrong with it?
Because the whole game, Extra included, suffers from a (relatively) terrible engine. It is inferior to the engines of all other Windows games, and it detracts from the gameplay more than it should. Don't get me wrong, the game has never been "unplayable", so to speak (at least once you have the retexture and Vsync patches :V), but the fact that ReimuB has suddenly become more useful for dodging is what prevents me from ignoring this game outright.

Might as well stay on topic. First EoSD Extra clear with ReimuB should count here. I captured "Royal Flare" for the first time with someone other than MarisaA (the path through it is simpler than I thought it would be), and I almost captured Q.E.D. for the first time (died stupidly as Flandre was exploding ::)).

Actually, this replay should also (at least partially) show why this game's engine is worse than all the others. Provided it runs the same way on other people's games, anyway, I want someone to find any unusual things that happen during Flandre.

EDIT: EoSD Stage 3 Lunatic perfect run.

Almost forgot that I hadn't done this yet. This stage actually isn't that bad, which is the only reason I considered playing it.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 05:23:48 PM by ふねん1 »
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #739 on: January 09, 2011, 05:20:15 PM »
(died stupidly as Flandre was exploding ::))
Welcome to the club!

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #740 on: January 09, 2011, 05:37:51 PM »
Because the whole game, Extra included, suffers from a (relatively) terrible engine.

Please elaborate; I'm certain you'll have more to show than "bawwwww no visible hitbox" and "bawwwwww a couple of bullet hitboxes are different", right?

Right?

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #741 on: January 09, 2011, 06:02:34 PM »
Please elaborate; I'm certain you'll have more to show than "bawwwww no visible hitbox" and "bawwwwww a couple of bullet hitboxes are different", right?

Right?
I included a visible hitbox when I got the retexture patch, and those two bullets with different hitboxes did become a bit more manageable over time (though I still believe the metal-fatigue bullets narrowly avoided being outright broken).

I think the biggest offender would have to be the RNG (if you can include that as part of the "engine"). It's only prevalent in the later stages of Story Mode, really, but combined with the above different bullet hitboxes, the RNG does not handle itself nearly as well as in other games.

There's a bunch of minor bugs too (like the ones you can see in my replay above), though every game seems to have at least one, so yeah.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #742 on: January 09, 2011, 06:37:46 PM »
I JUST
BEAT SUBTERRANEAN ANIMISM EASY
WITH REIMU A
WITHOUT USING A SINGLE CONTINUE

HOLY SHIT MY FIRST 1CC (that's when you don't use continues right)
MY HEART IS STILL RACING FROM UTSUHO'S LAST SPELLCARD
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 06:40:18 PM by Shadow Goo »

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #743 on: January 09, 2011, 06:49:39 PM »
I still believe the metal-fatigue bullets narrowly avoided being outright broken
Unlike Utsuho's suns which have different hitboxes for each card in the same freakin' game, right.

I think the biggest offender would have to be the RNG (if you can include that as part of the "engine"). It's only prevalent in the later stages of Story Mode, really, but combined with the above different bullet hitboxes, the RNG does not handle itself nearly as well as in other games.
So you're complaining that the patterns are too random for your taste? Getting walled by Bury in Lake/Emerald Megalith/Vampire Illusion made you grumpy?

There's a bunch of minor bugs too (like the ones you can see in my replay above), though every game seems to have at least one, so yeah.
You mean familiar-like objects still shooting for a split-second after the card they belong to was beaten? Looks like a bug indeed, I never bothered with it because guess what, it barely affects gameplay if at all.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #744 on: January 09, 2011, 08:24:18 PM »
I JUST
BEAT SUBTERRANEAN ANIMISM EASY
WITH REIMU A
WITHOUT USING A SINGLE CONTINUE

HOLY SHIT MY FIRST 1CC (that's when you don't use continues right)
MY HEART IS STILL RACING FROM UTSUHO'S LAST SPELLCARD
Congrats man!

Unlike Utsuho's suns which have different hitboxes for each card in the same freakin' game, right.
I'm pretty sure there's little to no difference in the suns' sprite-to-hitbox ratio for the first two cards. I'm not sure I can pinpoint exactly why their hitboxes are smaller on the third. Best I can give is that it was a technical oversight - perhaps ZUN felt having their hitboxes be as big as their sprites made it too hard, so he made them a bit smaller and forgot to check for any safespots it would have created. Just a theory.

Thing is, I'm not sure it's a perfect comparison between EoSD's metal-fatigue bullets and Utsuho's suns. When you have bullets as big as the latter are, I'd say it's pretty much instinctual to get the hell out of their way. Obviously one can apply this to metal-fatigue bullets too, but I believe the problem comes from them being used in patterns as if they were supposed to have their smaller hitboxes from the future (only on, like, a couple cards at max rank at most, and perhaps only because of the RNG).

So you're complaining that the patterns are too random for your taste? Getting walled by Bury in Lake/Emerald Megalith/Vampire Illusion made you grumpy?
I can't recall the last time I got truly walled on either of those first two cards - all of my deaths were legit mistakes on my end. It's more the fact that for a few cards (pretty much only during Remilia) you have to rely on the RNG to not get completely walled. Random boss movements also make scattered cards across the game more difficult than needed, but that's more subjective on my part and nowhere near game-breaking anyway.

You mean familiar-like objects still shooting for a split-second after the card they belong to was beaten? Looks like a bug indeed, I never bothered with it because guess what, it barely affects gameplay if at all.
I called them "minor" for just that reason. I was actually surprised that it happened twice in that one replay. The reason I called it out is because it is not supposed to happen, and the presence of such programming mistakes merely makes me groan on the inside.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #745 on: January 09, 2011, 08:44:39 PM »
I JUST
BEAT SUBTERRANEAN ANIMISM EASY
WITH REIMU A
WITHOUT USING A SINGLE CONTINUE

HOLY SHIT MY FIRST 1CC (that's when you don't use continues right)
MY HEART IS STILL RACING FROM UTSUHO'S LAST SPELLCARD



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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #746 on: January 09, 2011, 08:51:38 PM »
It's more the fact that for a few cards (pretty much only during Remilia) you have to rely on the RNG to not get completely walled. Random boss movements also make scattered cards across the game more difficult than needed, but that's more subjective on my part and nowhere near game-breaking anyway.
Really? I only get walled like 1% of the time in Remillia lunatic.
That wall only happens either in Scarlet Gensokyo (big wall on a big bubble wave) or Vampire Illusion (hard wave over near-wall).
All my other deaths were legit mistakes (ie there were obvious escape routes)

Not saying that the random boss movements don't make it very very annoying, but... it's not the walls.
Scarlet Meister is a complete BS card for me, so... didn't count that :V

Oh, and in case you don't know, Vampire Illusion "walls" are usually quite dodgable (both micro- and macrododge).
It's Scarlet Gensokyo walls that are utterly impossible, due to having 1000 other random bullets around that screw you over.
Fortunately, Scarlet Gensokyo rarely spawn that kind of walls, so it isn't that bad.

I don't think EoSD has a terrible engine at all.

I captured "Royal Flare" for the first time with someone other than MarisaA (the path through it is simpler than I thought it would be)
Your path is not bad, but it can be even simpler.
You can stay in a safespot, and the only movement you need is that down move (last move of the spell in your replay).
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 09:47:50 PM by jsonchiu »

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #747 on: January 09, 2011, 09:25:23 PM »
Your path is not bad, but it can be even simpler.
You can stay in a safespot, and the only movement you need is that down move (last move of the spell in your replay).
Yeah, I've yet to "completely" memorize the second wave. As long as whatever I'm doing works, I'll take it.

And to go back on-topic after all this time: "Vampire Illusion" finally recaptured. I honestly wish I could save replays in Practice Mode...

EDIT: EoSD Extra Stage 3DNB run.

My best run yet. Died twice on "Kagome, Kagome" and, of course, once on Q.E.D. Why is it when I'm practicing an Extra Stage, there's always a point where I make a very radical jump in my performance and pull off something like this?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 10:45:08 PM by ふねん1 »
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #748 on: January 10, 2011, 01:36:16 AM »
Pffffft. You should play without any retexture pack/hitbox patch/anything. Visible hitbox in EoSD is cheating. :V


No Touhou accomplishments for me lately (I've been playing Crimzon Clover :V) but I did upload my MoF Extra perfect to youtube.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments X - Scoran Like A Moran
« Reply #749 on: January 10, 2011, 08:08:14 AM »
lol random EoSD 1CC with a crapton of resources that went unused somehow- intentional or otherwise