Author Topic: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure  (Read 53858 times)

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #750 on: November 15, 2010, 10:21:17 PM »
> Oh hell.
> Mental check: where have we seen it before?
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[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
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[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #751 on: November 15, 2010, 10:25:05 PM »
> Oh hell.
> Mental check: where have we seen it before?

>This is no good, indeed.
>You recall seeing it earlier today, from the celestial town floating over the Bamboo Forest. You're not as close to this one as you were to that one, but it's still easily recognizable.

>_

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #752 on: November 15, 2010, 10:26:17 PM »
> Where is the Moriya Shrine in relation to where the beam is originating?

If Marisa is attacking the Shrine, I think we'll need to put her down first.
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #753 on: November 15, 2010, 10:30:03 PM »
> Where is the Moriya Shrine in relation to where the beam is originating?

>You are pretty sure that would be the point of origin.

>_

Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #754 on: November 15, 2010, 11:11:45 PM »
If Marisa is attacking the Shrine, I think we'll need to put her down first.

Of course, keep in mind that the last time we tried to go there, Kanako was quite furious at our presence, fearing that we would lead the resident incident solvers to think they were in on some sort of conspiracy. This may be just what happened, or Marisa may have gotten it into her head on her own. The question is, would us returning at this point exacerbate a bad situation where we were already looked unfavorably upon, or might Kanako appreciate our attempting help? Assuming that is even what is going on there at the moment.

It's also worth mentioning that apparently the Tengu patrols were on something of alert for us, after the incident last time. I think it's reasonable to expect we may get interference on our way there. In fact, we may not even be able to get there until Marisa has left, or the battle is over entirely. And if Marisa is gone AND we get blame assigned to us for causing the situation, well...

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #755 on: November 16, 2010, 04:30:51 PM »
Given what was going on the last time Marisa was firing off lasers, I'm leaning toward Kanako being appreciative for the help, unless people get it in their heads that Marisa is working with us for some reason. I'm also kinda-sorta hoping that having Eirin as a witness to our non-maliciousness and Marisa's psychopathy will stall for enough time and let us get through to put her down, even with the tengu patrols wary of us.

Or I may just be rationalizing because I want to grind Marisa's face into the dirt. >_>
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #756 on: November 16, 2010, 05:59:49 PM »
Given what was going on the last time Marisa was firing off lasers, I'm leaning toward Kanako being appreciative for the help, unless people get it in their heads that Marisa is working with us for some reason. I'm also kinda-sorta hoping that having Eirin as a witness to our non-maliciousness and Marisa's psychopathy will stall for enough time and let us get through to put her down, even with the tengu patrols wary of us.

Or I may just be rationalizing because I want to grind Marisa's face into the dirt. >_>

I suppose I can empathize with that, although it would be even nicer if we had some actual concrete evidence of the true cause, the next time we saw her; something we could actually use to convince her, rather than just beat her. Although I admit there would probably be a certain satisfaction in forcing her to stop being such a stupid inflexible hassle, terrorizing the local populations.

As for Kanako, I think she already believed we were not responsible for the island's falling. I'm just concerned we'll get the whole "Look at what you did, causing her to come here!" lecture if we show up. Possibly backed by divine fury, who knows.

I guess I see a couple possible outcomes:

a) Marisa leaves the place and intercepts us before we reach it. I actually think this may be one of the more likely things that will happen. At which point a battle is basically inevitable (and we have no terrain that allows an easy escape this time). Assuming Tenshi will stay and fight with us, we may have a chance at victory. Of course, whether engaging Marisa in public view while general suspicion is already on us will do good or bad for our reputation is an open question.

b) We manage to make it unmolested to the shrine while a battle is still in progress. This will almost certainly involve us joining the battle against Marisa. Odds of victory may be somewhat  better, depending on which shrine combatants are still in fighting shape by the time we get there. They would at least be a witness to our confrontation, more or less on their behalf, which could probably score a couple points, anyway.

c) We arrive at the shrine after Marisa has departed. The condition of the occupants is probably an open question (ie: Eirin was fine, and we don't know to what degree they'd perpetuate the battle, or whether they would even pull something similar to get Marisa to leave). And depending on their mood towards us at the time over what they may think we 'caused', things could get ugly.

d) We get waylayed by Tengu patrols. It would probably be a bad idea to try and force our way past, if they won't listen to reason, as any altercation would likely be directly damaging to our reputation. Worst-case, they try to drive us away and we run into Marisa, while away from the shrine.

e) There's some wrinkle to what's really going on there that's not among the immediately obvious. Not much that can be planned around this one.

So, on the whole:

-We very likely end up fighting Marisa, which is almost certain to be a very difficult battle
-If we win, at best she may be out of commission for a little bit, which may be for the good of both us and others, although it seems unlikely to change her view of anything, and is at-best a temporary reprieve
-Our presence may exacerbate other tensions with the Tengu or the shrine
-Alternately, if we manage to prevent Marisa from having her way with them, we may engender ourselves to them a little, as well

Really, it seems that, short of somehow finding out new and unexpected information, that last bit is about all we stand to potentially gain from this, among the various bad things that could happen.

...and after writing all this, I'm beginning to think that a cost-benefit analysis may be almost beside the point, now. This would be something concrete to do, as opposed to continuing to (nearly) aimlessly cast about. Even if it just blows up in our face, in one of the many ways that it potentially could.


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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #757 on: November 16, 2010, 06:26:18 PM »
Marisa will be impossible to convince after Eirin's admission, so I'm not too concerned about that. As for anyone else, I think pointing at the weak shadows may be enough to convince them that, at the very least, whatever this was wasn't planned on our part.

The tengu have also seen Sanae chase us off, and they're sure to have seen that Spark. If we tell them that we're here to help the Moriya Shrine, that could be enough to throw them for a loop and, at the very least, they'd be willing to accompany us up the mountain to make sure we don't get into any funny business, unless they think Marisa is on our side for some reason.

I vote we go for her, if only to finally put her down and allow us to move more freely. Reimu's not nearly as stupid, and if she gets enough information from the right sources (Sanae, Eirin), I don't think she'll hinder us even after we put Marisa down.
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #758 on: November 16, 2010, 07:26:49 PM »
Yeah, I think I'm willing to go with that. Still nervous about a couple things, but I guess we'll deal with potential fallout as it happens.

>"That twice too many times I've seen that today. Does she intend to attack every uninvolved party in Gensokyo?"

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« Reply #759 on: November 16, 2010, 07:40:25 PM »
>"That twice too many times I've seen that today. Does she intend to attack every uninvolved party in Gensokyo?"

>Tenshi grimaces at the display. "Huh. I guess people really do think they are involved..."

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #760 on: November 16, 2010, 07:46:15 PM »
>"Well, she thought the Lunarians were involved earlier, too. And she believes we are, as well, of course. Has she convinced herself that half of Gensokyo is in on this?"
>"Tenshi, I think I wish to go back to the shrine. I am tired of running and hiding. And I am tired of her getting innocents involved in this crusade against us."

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« Reply #761 on: November 16, 2010, 08:02:52 PM »
>"Well, she thought the Lunarians were involved earlier, too. And she believes we are, as well, of course. Has she convinced herself that half of Gensokyo is in on this?"
>"Tenshi, I think I wish to go back to the shrine. I am tired of running and hiding. And I am tired of her getting innocents involved in this crusade against us."

>"Well to be fair, the Lunarians are really suspicious." says Tenshi. "Wouldn't surprise me if it was their fault."
>"About time!"

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #762 on: November 16, 2010, 08:16:18 PM »
>Grin
>"I take it you're with me, then?"
>Fly to the shrine, at good speed

>"Just remember, after what happened last time, the Tengu may think we have hostile intent. Marisa has already made it clear she will not believe a word we say, so I don't think it matters what we do, as far as she's concerned. But we don't want to provoke anyone else if we can avoid it."

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« Reply #763 on: November 16, 2010, 08:48:01 PM »
>Grin
>"I take it you're with me, then?"
>Fly to the shrine, at good speed

>"Just remember, after what happened last time, the Tengu may think we have hostile intent. Marisa has already made it clear she will not believe a word we say, so I don't think it matters what we do, as far as she's concerned. But we don't want to provoke anyone else if we can avoid it."


>"It's just like I said," says Tenshi. "No one believes you, so you don't have anything to lose."
>You take to the air and start toward the shrine.
>You give her a warning as you start to make your way up the mountainside. "I don't think the tengu are going to be a problem," says Tenshi. She gestures downward. There you see a patrol, which seems to have been rather soundly defeated given the way they are strewn across the mountain.

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #764 on: November 16, 2010, 09:00:33 PM »
>Sigh
>"She truly has no concern about who gets hurt along the way, does she? So convinced is she that she's right."
>Continue onward

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« Reply #765 on: November 16, 2010, 09:30:58 PM »
>Sigh
>"She truly has no concern about who gets hurt along the way, does she? So convinced is she that she's right."
>Continue onward

>"Not like you were any different earlier," Tenshi says.
>You continue toward the Shrine, meeting no resistance. More notably, you see no telltale signs of danmaku, either.

>_

Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #766 on: November 16, 2010, 09:40:44 PM »
>"And I was like this, how?"
>How close are we to the shrine now?

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« Reply #767 on: November 16, 2010, 09:47:01 PM »
>"And I was like this, how?"
>How close are we to the shrine now?

>"Well you sure as hell didn't think twice about hurting me, did you?" says Tenshi. "So I don't see where you get to say anything."
>You are getting close to it now.

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #768 on: November 16, 2010, 09:57:02 PM »
>"If you think that didn't bother me, you'd be mistaken. I'm sure you probably also think that's irrelevant, and perhaps you're right. I'll accept that responsibility. But don't forget that you, too, had similarly hurt other celestials before I arrived."

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« Reply #769 on: November 16, 2010, 10:01:12 PM »
>"If you think that didn't bother me, you'd be mistaken. I'm sure you probably also think that's irrelevant, and perhaps you're right. I'll accept that responsibility. But don't forget that you, too, had similarly hurt other celestials before I arrived."

>"Yeah but I'm not the one acting like I didn't, and they were trying to keep me from what's mine anyway so it doesn't count," says Tenshi.

>_

Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #770 on: November 16, 2010, 10:09:56 PM »
>And she accuses us of being the ones who always act like we never do anything wrong...
>"That aside, I'm not liking the fact that we can't see any signs of fighting. Is it already over?"

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« Reply #771 on: November 16, 2010, 10:15:00 PM »
>And she accuses us of being the ones who always act like we never do anything wrong...
>"That aside, I'm not liking the fact that we can't see any signs of fighting. Is it already over?"

>Quite.
>"Yeah, I think it is," says Tenshi.

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #772 on: November 16, 2010, 10:16:47 PM »
>"Then I guess we go survey the damage. Be on your guard."
>Head to the shrine

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« Reply #773 on: November 16, 2010, 10:36:41 PM »
>"Then I guess we go survey the damage. Be on your guard."
>Head to the shrine

>You approach the shrine. Things seem more or less as they should be, save that a tall woman in in red blouse and dark skirt is sprawled out on the grass, a shimenawa on her back. Crouching beside her, smirking, is a small and younger-looking woman in a large straw hat. You recognize both of the deities without difficulty.

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #774 on: November 16, 2010, 10:39:40 PM »
>Is there no sign of Marisa?
>What kind of condition does Kanako seem to be in?

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #775 on: November 16, 2010, 10:47:28 PM »
>Is there no sign of Marisa?
>What kind of condition does Kanako seem to be in?

>There doesn't seem to be.
>Kanako has quite clearly lost a danmaku battle. She's burnt, bruised, and has suffered a good deal of clothing damage. Her hair is a wreck as well.

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #776 on: November 16, 2010, 10:54:37 PM »
>Descend
>"It seems I've arrived too late. Are you alright?"
>"I take it Marisa decided you, too, were somehow responsible for all this?"

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« Reply #777 on: November 16, 2010, 11:04:46 PM »
>Descend
>"It seems I've arrived too late. Are you alright?"
>"I take it Marisa decided you, too, were somehow responsible for all this?"

>You descend.
>"She'll be fine," says Suwako, glances over toward you as you land on the dry grass near them. "And I wonder what might have happened that would lead them to think we were involved? Maybe you have some ideas?"

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #778 on: November 16, 2010, 11:08:33 PM »
> "I have one floating theory. Marisa is a brainless oaf that tries to pass off her bullying as heroism. What happened here was entirely her fault, combined with a few instances of innocents being in the wrong place at the wrong time."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

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Re: Iku Quest Drei - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #779 on: November 16, 2010, 11:10:52 PM »
>"If you are implying it was my interaction with Sanae and my attempt to seek your council with her, this is possible, I admit. But you are also not the first people I have seen Marisa express her suspicions against violently, despite me having had literally not contact with them beforehand. She fought Eirin a few hours ago, having convinced herself that we were in league with each other. Apparently the primary basis for this was that we both came from above the clouds. It boggles the mind. She would do little to listen to reason, and believe me I tried."