Labyrinth of Touhou 6F

[J.O.B]

Patchy's MND is over 4000 though...

[NEETori]

Boss!Mokou uses primarily physical and composite attacks.

That being said, Spark works better than Patchy, since she has over 80k after Resurrection, IIRC, and Marisa should easily hit that.

[Dr.Strafe]

Mokou would still steamroll Patchy in terms of speed. She could get 2-3 Volcanoes in between Patchy's attacks.

Patchy is the leader in my (unfortunately neglected) playthrough. She can't survive much, so you gotta know when to rotate her out.

And yes, Marisa, Nitori, and Eiki are your best bets for OMG KILL IT NOW damage.

[Ghaleon]

Mnd does absolutely nothing to physical attacks, and most of Mokou's attacks are physical.

[Pesco]

Building your characters defensively helps a crapton.

Started a clean run from scratch to try using mostly defensive builds and it really owns. It's the epic stuff of taking down Youmu with just Meiling and Remi left standing.

[Ghaleon]

Yeah, defensive (except for characters like flan or suwako of course) is better. You can take on bosses at lower levels than you could otherwise. Baal avatar and yukari suddenly become much more difficult though (though Yukari is still easy if you have suwako and some kind of offensive support to go with her).

It's also more satisfying beating up a boss at lower levels with lower attack stats and hence have a much longer more grueling fight.
Just don't expect 18f to be any more challenging than your average keedama after you get past phase 1 >=P

[J.O.B]

Who should I beat first then?
Mokou or Yuyuko?

[NEETori]

Personally, I'd go for Mokou first.  Yuyu is harder, even once you're prepared, due to the fact that you've got to devote gear for instant death, so that means you gotta sacrifice affinities or stats. 

[RegalStar]

Machine God Lucifer get! On my second try, too. Flandre is seriously like, the best attacker against SoC, with its really slow speed and 0 delay moves on phase 3, she can just stay in and Starbow Break it three times in a row for 4-6 million damage (depending on how much ATK buff she has) before retreating, while my switchers occupy themselves with switching in healers (Minoriko was sniped by a Steel Clasher early phase 2), buffing, and switching in other attackers.

[Serela]

2 more gurthangs (Aya is now strongbeast) and a crapload of other stuff later, I decide I feel like grabbing every single item that can't be obtained on 30F while I'm grinding to reach a good enough level to stay there!

Sooo I went to 26F and picked up 13 Lion King Souls, another Ult.ZUN Hat (yay) and finally got Rizna's Ahoge and a Arayashiki's Enlightenment. Reimu lv386. Took about 16 levels on 26F.

Now all I've got left is to get a Seraphim's Diamond from Magical Mediators on 28F. Sigh. In order to consistently 1shot everything I have to rely on Flan instead of Kaguya, and even then Golden Massive Kedamas have too much HP against triple-gurthang Flan. So this is going to take awhile, probably, a painful while ):

edit:Okay it isn't that bad. Flan one-shots everything with Forbidden Fruits (2shots GoldMassKedama, use Laveatein if Magical Mediators are there) before anything can move, even after being given an Arthuros Gem to double her SP. So this isn't slow or painful!
-also 2 Arayashiki's Englightenments in a row, well NOW I start getting them =| More SKP I guess!
-yay gold cloth
-Aaaaand Seraphim Diamond get! Reimu 395, pretty fast :3c

Back to 27F I guess. I could probably take out some Bloody V2s pretty easily though, and stand a chance against SoC. But I don't feel like it :V Too busy channeling my inner TranceHime.

[RegalStar]

Back to 27F I guess. I could probably take out some Bloody V2s pretty easily though, and stand a chance against SoC. But I don't feel like it :V Too busy channeling my inner TranceHime.

You can already easily take out Bloody Papa, EVD and Hibachi. BoC might be a bit tough still but with some luck you can take it down as well.

[Serela]

oh god did you really need to quote the entire post

anyway

Now I'm luckhaxing drops on 30F. This is awesome. Although a lot of the battles I have to run from >: Yukari/Flan/Nitori/Kaggy works pretty well overall, though.

edit:Okay 30F is still too scary most of the time. Back to 27F. After a take down a few Bloody V2s.
edit:OH GOD CHEN OH GOD OH GOD

[Mr. Sacchi]

Ok, I'm starting a New Game Plus. Wanted to know if this party is okay for the whole game:

Reimu(Exorcising Border + Great Hakurei Barrier)
Youmu(Physical Dmg Dealer)
Meiling(Tank)
Mystia(Physical Dmg Dealer)
Eiki(LAST JUDGEMENTO)
Keine(Tank + Buffer)
Okuu(GIGA FLAAAAAAAAAAARE)
Yukari(Tank + IN Quadruple Barrier + Spiriting Away)
Nitori(Megawatt Linear Gun)
Sanae(Healer, I guess.)
Kaguya(HOURAI BARRAAAAAAAGE + Buddha's Stone Bowl)
Flan(Dmg Dealer)

I'm having troubles picking a good party though, I'm thinking about switching someone out for a quick magical dmg dealer, if that even exists. The problem is, who should I switch out for who?

[NEETori]

Wanted to know if this party is okay

If Parallaxal can beat WINNER with the supposed worst characters (minus Eirin), in the game, that party will do fine.  Actually, seems pretty well balanced.  Although you might run into SP troubles early on.  Actually, you'll probably run into a LOT of SP troubles early on.

I'm having troubles picking a good party though, I'm thinking about switching someone out for a quick magical dmg dealer, if that even exists. The problem is, who should I switch out for who?

If Giga Flare isn't super-important to you, you can drop Okuu in favor of Reisen, who hits the same two elements, and with her buff, is much faster, similarly durable, and while she can't hit quite as hard, hits more often and can debuff.  Outside of Reisen, there aren't really many fast mages that I can think of.

Chen might be an acceptable replacement to one of your attackers if you'd rather have speed over power.  Same with Aya.

[RegalStar]

Giga Flare actually kind of sucks when I tried to use it. It cost 10 more SP than Hourai Barrage, hits for half the damage, and MYS sucks as an element.

If you want a fast mage, Mokou can be raised to be pretty fast, and while Fujiyama Volcano's damage isn't top notch, the fact that FIR is an awesome element makes up for it. Aside from that, Yuuka has her 66% delay Flower Shots (though I never used her so I don't know how good it actually is), Reisen is already described, and I can't really think of anyone else. If you want a fast group damage dealer in general, Orin's Blazing Wheel is awesome and she's pretty fast too.

[NEETori]

and MYS sucks as an element.

Unless you're Marisa or Rumia, in which case, you're stuck with it, but make it work (spectacularly, in the case of the Black/White witch). 

I'm glad I grinded for a bit to get a couple million SP to sink into Yuyuko.  She's wrecking the 29th floor like nobody's business.  Kaguya does a better job, but if Kaguya's dead, back in Gensokyo or needs to recharge, Yuyu can step in.

[J.O.B]

What element is Dark blaze?

[Ghaleon]

Mystic.

I suggest dumping okuu for kanako. Okuu isn't needed since you have many def piercing options already, and as stated, mystic sucks.
Kanako isn't exactly my idea of a top tier Mage, but she's one of the beefiest whilst still doing respectable damage. With only 1 Mage dpser, you may wanna make sure it's someone who won't die easy.

[J.O.B]

Is Miasama Wind MYS element too?

[Serela]

Miasma Wind? Yes. Any attack with a purple name is MYS.

Yuyu is pretty respectable in Plus Disk where she has the SP to spam Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana.

Anyway, at about Reimu 400 took out all the Bloody v2s easily (BoC was fun), and managed to get to SoC's third and final phase without any trouble.

Unfortunately, said phase utterly destroyed me fairly fast, and I can only go through 4~6m hp per cycle, so I can't hope to speed rush it very well. I -could- beat it now, with good luck, but it would probably take quite awhile. Time to grind more, I suppose!

[NEETori]

Yuyu is pretty respectable in Plus Disk where she has the SP to spam Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana.

I think if I built her pure magic from the beginning and remorselessly, she would probably be doing much better, but for a character that I severely maimed with level-up points, and went modest with gear, she's doing extremely well.  Also, she's really underlevelled

[Ghaleon]

In my current playthru (just beat 27f boss, haven't really grinded there yet though), Yuyu is good but not outstanding. She's kinda like kanako, her nuke is powerful, and situationally, it's godly (for those few weak to spirit), and her defenses are very respectable. But most of the time, she's still not a nitori/yuugi/eiki level nuker.

Speaking of Eiki, I think she's pretty darn good. Defense ignore is obviously good, but a defense ignore that powerful with no element on a character who also has pretty good defenses..yeah.. She's definitely  one of those characters who is capable of being crucial in every fight (like reimu). Yuyu does have one really *REALLY* bad weakness though. Djinn storm. She's got terrible speed, bad base sp recovery, and her only worthwhile nuke costs an arm and a leg.. So yeah, she's pretty much nothing but dead weight after 1 storm.

[NEETori]

Eiki's magic is also plenty for random encounters.  Wandering Sin does about 100k on an average enemy, and if it's vulnerable to any status effects, it's instantly good. 

Eiki in general is an awesome character.  She helped me snipe those damn Kedama Goddessses

[Serela]

Eh, I dropped Eiki for Flan. I found her to be squishier then I thought she would be, and her nuke's damage, while good, not way high. I mean it was certainly on the high end, but it was significantly weaker then, say, Nitori or Aya's damage. Eiki was pretty useful while I had her, though, but for a squishy cannon, I picked Flan. Besides, Eiki would have run out of SP in the SoC fight... I'm rather amused you berate Yuyuko for SP after a Djinn Storm when Eiki is pretty guilty too!

Also Aya's damage seems to scale VERY well in Plus. On the Bloody Seal V2 fights her damage wass maybe half what Nitori does per hit, dished out at a billion times the speed.

[RegalStar]

Eiki actually kind of does as much damage as Flan to me on average enemies, but her defenses are infinitely better. I actually sometimes switch her in when a boss is about to take a turn, and she can still survive a hit of most things. On the other hand, Flandre can't take a hit of anything that's not FIR elemental, especially after losing 1/3 of her HP from using Starbow Break. Besides, DEF ignoring does come in handy occasionally, although less often than I expected. Flandre's 50% delay on Starbow Break isn't really as useful as I thought it would be - it made her my MVP by a country mile against SoC, but in most fights I have to switch her out after she gets a hit off anyways due to her weak defenses and the fact that 1/3 of her HP is gone.

I don't find Wandering Sin too useful though - it's cute when it inflicts a whole bunch of status on everything, and occasionally on a debuff vulernable enemy I sometimes use her to help out Maribel (I don't have Reisen in my team, since it's a randomly generated one plus Meiling), but usually I'd rather use Last Judgment.

And yeah, one problem that Eiki has is SP. 120 SP a pop is really not fun when she has 10% base recovery rate to work with.

[NEETori]

I generally don't use Wandering Sin for damage, just as an upgraded Narrow Confines of Avici, but generally Shiki is on my random encounter teams when something needs to die really badly.

[Pesco]

Goshdurnit Healing Light is such a ho. Since the Alice fight was being a stall game, I brought in Wriggle for poison lulz. Guess it was a silly idea to try kill Magical Light first :V

[Serela]

Goshdurnit Healing Light is such a ho. Since the Alice fight was being a stall game, I brought in Wriggle for poison lulz. Guess it was a silly idea to try kill Magical Light first :V

Actually, I always kill the Magical/Beautiful Lights before the healing doll. I find it much easier that way, and it's fun :3

[Zengar Zombolt]

Actually, I always kill the Magical/Beautiful Lights before the healing doll. I find it much easier that way, and it's fun :3

Hahaha, sure it is.
*+10k*
*+10k*
*+10k*
*FUCK THIS NOISE*

[Pesco]

After a while I remembered Healing Light is on 1hp because lolpoison and poked her to death.

The fight was silly. Meiling taking 0 in slot 1 and Mino mnd-tanking in slot 2 :V