Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 6F (Read 183714 times)

Rukoto · « **Reply #900 on:** April 14, 2011, 05:54:18 AM »

Personally I love using Remi as a tank / attacker / switcher all in one. She's also got ridiculous speed compared to all the other tanks which is an added bonus. Because she can fill so many roles at once, extra slots are freed up for my party, which is great. She really helped me out on my SoC fight which I almost lost thanks to a Scourge on Reimu (killng my only healer in the process; Meiling already kicked the bucket).

Spoiler:

Admittedly, I run her in a tank quartet of Remi/Meiling/Iku/Komachi. Generally Remi survives longer than Meiling does in most of my boss battles mostly because Remi has a self-buff and greater speed in comparison to Meiling and that I use Meiling primarily for healing others with Healer which, when backed by Stickleback, heals for a good amount. Iku provides the aformentioned Sticklebacks to keep healing spells strong, as well as buffing stay-in attackers like Remi and Yuugi. Komachi just switches in to debuff and sponge damage while my other tanks rest up; no point in trying to heal her back to her 320k hp when Reimu can't even heal for 100k with Exorcising Border.

Quote from: RegalStar on April 13, 2011, 11:21:15 PM

For some reason I thought bomb[e*]r[!*] is row-target

At least you didn't think it was just another single target attack like I did :V

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #901 on:** April 14, 2011, 07:23:40 AM »

Welp, as some of you may know, I've started up the game. I'm already on Floor 2, and about to get minoriko, just because. Though I'm wondering what stats I should put on any one character, tbh. I'm looking at the wiki and all, and really, this game is a grindfest, albeit a bit confusing. I've gotta start playing it again (since i havent played for a good day or two)

J.O.B · « **Reply #902 on:** April 14, 2011, 08:09:17 AM »

Quote from: Kips McKipzerson on April 14, 2011, 07:23:40 AM

Welp, as some of you may know, I've started up the game. I'm already on Floor 2, and about to get minoriko, just because. Though I'm wondering what stats I should put on any one character, tbh. I'm looking at the wiki and all, and really, this game is a grindfest, albeit a bit confusing. I've gotta start playing it again (since i havent played for a good day or two)

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7188.750.html#lastPost
Scroll up

Pesco · « **Reply #903 on:** April 14, 2011, 08:26:16 AM »

I link the guide post in the OP for future reference.

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,7188.msg589521.html#msg589521

RegalStar · « **Reply #904 on:** April 14, 2011, 04:00:16 PM »

Quote from: Kips McKipzerson on April 14, 2011, 07:23:40 AM

Welp, as some of you may know, I've started up the game. I'm already on Floor 2, and about to get minoriko, just because. Though I'm wondering what stats I should put on any one character, tbh. I'm looking at the wiki and all, and really, this game is a grindfest, albeit a bit confusing. I've gotta start playing it again (since i havent played for a good day or two)

Also, this game doesn't actually require grinding most of the time. There are only three points where some grinding is needed for nearly everyone - 20F (before and after boss - you need to level a bit before taking on the boss, and you'll want to get all four unique enemy-drop only items on 20F before heading for 21F anyways afterwards, plus bloodstained seal bosses); 26F (for the boss); and 30F (where you need MASSIVE grinding to take on the bosses there). It's entirely doable to play through the game without grinding at any other point.

Serela · « **Reply #905 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:12:09 PM »

Heck, you can even get by 26F without grinding depending on how long you spend grinding 20F! Personally I've been able to take on that boss as soon as I reached her in all my runs.

Anyway, reached level 300~ on my party, finished everything except 28F+ and the Bloodstained V2s (Of course). Now I guess I'm grinding until I feel like doing 28F, since I'd like to be able to handle it's random battles fairly well before I do it. Then again I haven't tried it since lv260-ish *coughs*

Oh well, at this point it's basically grinding mixed with exploring 28/29F until I reach 400ish for SoC anyway.

My party, for anyone who feels like looking. Then again, you might not be sure who they all are due to my image set... :V Might switch Kaguya and/or Shiki for others after I beat up Dual Hibachi v2, but haven't decided yet, and that's a loooooong way away anyway.

NEETori · « **Reply #906 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:26:56 PM »

Looks pretty good, although I'm not sure how awesome team speed buffing is at this point in the game (I do realize that Peerless Wind God spam is awesome

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Serela · « **Reply #907 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:31:43 PM »

Definitely. Even though Utsuho has 150 WND resistance, Aya was still only just behind Nitori in damage for that boss. And switchwhoring with 50%+ speed buffed Aya is amazing.

Although I might want to make sure you didn't mistake Keine for being Sakuya, since that's a comment I'd expect to hear if I was using Sakuya :3

...and now I wonder if Chen would be useful for SoC/Winner.

RegalStar · « **Reply #908 on:** April 14, 2011, 06:53:21 PM »

Alice, Rumia, Yuyuko, Kaguya, Reimu, Nitori, Aya, Eiki, Meiling, Yukari, Keine and Iku, in that order. I don't see Sakuya.

Kips McKipzerson · « **Reply #909 on:** April 14, 2011, 09:34:44 PM »

I'm grinding purely for equips. It's kinda an OCD thing of mine, where I cant continue onto the new key story point without having as good equips as I can.
Also, the thing pesco linked to helps a lot.

RegalStar · « **Reply #910 on:** April 15, 2011, 05:10:17 AM »

SoC is down at Meiling 453. Overall though, I think i got pretty luck with its attacks - the four turns it had in phase 3, it used Thousand Hand Kannon, Quantum Decoherence Form twice (status impunity wee), and Solar Light (why is that attack in phase 3 anyways...?) in that order. Flandre is definitely my MVP for the fight - Starbow Break's 50% post-use gauge is REALLY handy when your opponent is slow as molasses.

No MGL though, as expected from a 10% drop rate and my crappy luck with first kill boss drops. I decided to not save and level up a bit before rechallenging him for the drop.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #911 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:52:03 AM »

I thought it was 5%, oh well I can't remember.

26F doesn't actually need grinding at all if you use patchy, spend her level ups on mnd and (maybe, not sure if it's required) got the necronomicon from agathrostubuwhateverthefuckitsname is. She'll take 0s. But yeah, most people prefer to go mag with her.

Personally I've tried both and going mnd doesn't gimp her damage as much as you'd think. I think it's partially because silent selene partially ignores mnd instead of simply powering thru it with big multipliers (though the multipliers aren't bad). So lesser mag doesn't really make the damage seem to dwindle to wussy numbers like most formulas (Sakuya's killing doll would be an extreme example). I think I actually prefer mnd patchy for most of the bosses, but she's unfortunately less than average on fights where the enemy has a reasonable chance of using arrow rain or needle parade or whatever. Mag Patchy has great useage on slower trash though, while mnd patchy is still good but..might not make the cut for dps racing 13f bronze golems, or powering thru a nightmare cancers defenses until much much later, etc.

NEETori · « **Reply #912 on:** April 15, 2011, 10:09:24 AM »

I just realized grinding on the 27th floor is way less tedious now that I have TWO characters who can wipe Nightmare Cancers off the face of Gensokyo without needing to buff or debuff.

Serela · « **Reply #913 on:** April 15, 2011, 01:19:11 PM »

Quote from: NEETori on April 15, 2011, 10:09:24 AM

I just realized grinding on the 27th floor is way less tedious now that I have TWO characters who can wipe Nightmare Cancers off the face of Gensokyo without needing to buff or debuff.

Kaguya in general is just god tier for random battles.

I wish that when they had an "error in data input" causing her attacks to ignore mnd, they had actually, y'know, fixed it ): I mean since it's THERE I'm going to abuse it, like Nitori's definitely-overbuffed Megawatt, but I still wish it wasn't!

Also, hit 30F. Reimu lv318 at the moment. Time to 27F grind until 400+ sigh ;_; I guess if I wanna switch Shiki for Flan I should do it NOW, but I'm not sure if I do!

edit:Speaking of Kaguya, she can one-shot every single random encounter on 27F now, and moves before stuff that have a boosted ATB gauge from Strategists. Nifty.

yoshicookiezeus · « **Reply #914 on:** April 15, 2011, 01:35:14 PM »

Somehow, even though I have been grinding on 30F between each attempt, my battles against the Serpent of Chaos are going worse and worse. It seems like it has made a habit of barely OHKOing my MND tanks with Steel Slasher during the second phase; this last attempt just barely made it through thanks to the thing thankfully deciding not to use its single-target nukes on Meiling while she was barely surviving the magic spam of the third phase. Somehow still haven't managed to lose against it, though. :V

Serela · « **Reply #915 on:** April 15, 2011, 02:36:07 PM »

I got two less-then-1% drop Gurthangs on 27F within 5 battles of eachother. And in the same grinding trip, 2 Dewprisms and a Fusion Titanium Alloy, which are less then 2% drop. Holy fucking shit.

Went ahead and got Flandre, with those Gurthangs and a Gantz Suit for PAR-resist, her ATK is nearly triple Nitori's =D

Reimu lv335, still a loooooooong way to go ;_;

edit:Reimu 350, sighhhhh (also 3 more dewprisms)
edit:Reimu 356, 2 more dewprisms, 3 more byroads, 4 titanium alloys, another gurthang
god I wish I had something better to do then this :V

NEETori · « **Reply #916 on:** April 15, 2011, 04:24:30 PM »

Flan literally one-shots everything except the stupid crabs on that floor at Reimu 280ish.

I'm probably going to grind until Reimu 300 before I explore 28F

Ghaleon · « **Reply #917 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:55:41 PM »

Quote from: NeoSerela on April 15, 2011, 02:36:07 PM

I got two less-then-1% drop Gurthangs on 27F within 5 battles of eachother. And in the same grinding trip, 2 Dewprisms and a Fusion Titanium Alloy, which are less then 2% drop. Holy fucking shit.

Went ahead and got Flandre, with those Gurthangs and a Gantz Suit for PAR-resist, her ATK is nearly triple Nitori's =D

Reimu lv335, still a loooooooong way to go ;_;

edit:Reimu 350, sighhhhh (also 3 more dewprisms)
edit:Reimu 356, 2 more dewprisms, 3 more byroads, 4 titanium alloys, another gurthang
god I wish I had something better to do then this :V

I know luck, in reality doesn't work like this, but hot damn, Goto 28f and grab some gold cloths or 30f drops =p

NEETori · « **Reply #918 on:** April 15, 2011, 10:39:37 PM »

Reimu 311. And the Tengu and Kedama Goddesses can go die.

Serela · « **Reply #919 on:** April 15, 2011, 11:18:53 PM »

Tengu are weak to MYS, but yeah, Slash Dive sucks. I usually used Aya to run away from triple battles with them. Aya is great for Golden Massive Kedamas, for that matter, as they have no DEF/MND, so her (and ALL attacks in general) hurt them a lot, and Aya will get MANY moves in.

Kedama Goddesses pretty much scream "Have Kaguya use Swallow Cowrie Shell or run away". Even then, usually had to have a non-elemental multitarget (Little Legion wheee) as well. Any element other then Nature is resisted, if I remember right.

Basically, when doing that floor, I used Alice/Aya/Kaguya as much as possible. Last person was less important, often used Yuyuko or Rumia but anyone works. Literally anyone, since even your support characters will pack a heavy enough punch against Golden Massive Kedamas.

NEETori · « **Reply #920 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:01:39 AM »

I'm so glad that Komachi's probably the best tank for the floor. She takes no more than 20% from one thing that's actually a threat to me. GMK and Magical Mediators get locked down easily enough.

I'm probably going to bring Aya and trade someone else out for Marisa.

J.O.B · « **Reply #921 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:15:02 AM »

I'm trying to beat Mokou but she doesn't wanna use Ressurection much

instead she uses Wu and Ikahasa(or however you spell it) which are pretty much the only multi target spells that can hurt Patchy. And she keeps killing Tenshi with Slash dive

NEETori · « **Reply #922 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:22:35 AM »

I find Tenshi to be bad as a standalone tank for bosses who can dismantle her massive defenses. I generally paired her up with Meiling for bosses with massive power (Mokou, Flan, Yuuka, but not Okuu, who could break through those defenses with extreme ease in my game), and it worked pretty well.

Tsuki no Iwakasa's Curse is used if you debuff her speed, IIRC, and it's also a composite spell, so if you use a front line of characters with high defenses and buff them up, you can seriously neuter the damage. Beware of the attack debuffs, and make sure you charge Marisa up early on.

J.O.B · « **Reply #923 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:46:27 AM »

What does it mean if it's a composite spell?

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #924 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:57:06 AM »

Quote from: J.O.B on April 16, 2011, 02:46:27 AM

What does it mean if it's a composite spell?

It Means the formula is "[(MAG + ATK) Insert Multiplier Here] - (MND + DEF)"

In short, it can be easily nullified by whatever tank, Tenshi specially.

@One Doubt

Is it okay for me to be using Yukari as a multi-purpose tank on late plus disk? I use her more for Spiriting Away then IN Quadruple Barrier, but...

J.O.B · « **Reply #925 on:** April 16, 2011, 03:13:09 AM »

Damnit Mokou used resurrection and killed me with Fujiyama volcano.
That Whore!

NEETori · « **Reply #926 on:** April 16, 2011, 03:29:57 AM »

Quote from: Sacchasa Tatara on April 16, 2011, 02:57:06 AM

It Means the formula is "[(MAG + ATK) Insert Multiplier Here] - (MND + DEF)"

In short, it can be easily nullified by whatever tank, Tenshi specially.

@One Doubt

Is it okay for me to be using Yukari as a multi-purpose tank on late plus disk? I use her more for Spiriting Away then IN Quadruple Barrier, but...

Definitely. She's one of the most durable characters not named Komachi/Meiling/Tenshi, having excellent defenses (for a non-primary tank), and acceptable HP.

Dr.Strafe · « **Reply #927 on:** April 16, 2011, 07:45:30 AM »

Quote from: J.O.B on April 16, 2011, 03:13:09 AM

Damnit Mokou used resurrection and killed me with Fujiyama volcano.
That Whore!

Yeah, that's all she does after Resurrection. Many bosses in the game go into Overdrive near the end of the fight. You just have to take them out before they crush you.

J.O.B · « **Reply #928 on:** April 16, 2011, 07:47:46 AM »

I was gonna kill her with Patchy but she killed Patchy first.

Dr.Strafe · « **Reply #929 on:** April 16, 2011, 07:50:47 AM »

Quote from: J.O.B on April 16, 2011, 07:47:46 AM

I was gonna kill her with Patchy but she killed Patchy first.

Yeah, Patchy goes *squish* rather easily. Having dedicated tanks/switchers really makes a difference in attack efficiency.