Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 6F (Read 183712 times)

RegalStar · « **Reply #840 on:** April 09, 2011, 02:31:36 AM »

I managed to kill two more Yukas and one Yukari, but I think I had decent luck on all of those attempts (Galaxy Stop landed SPD debuff 4/5 times on first Yuka fight, and a PAR on both other attempts, not to mention Shiki landing a PAR with wandering sin too in my desperate attempt to abate the effect of IN Quadraple Barrier).

I really should go grind on 27F a bit more until I come back again.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #841 on:** April 09, 2011, 03:05:32 AM »

It's pretty much always best to grind 27f for exp/skp gain speed. But 30f's possible gear drops are a nice bonus. More importantly though, I just do 30F trash when I'm bored outta my skull for 27f trash, then go back to 27f when I can take some more, go back to 30f, etc.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #842 on:** April 09, 2011, 04:26:08 AM »

...I THINK I might be a little high in level for 3/4F... I remember in a previous run I'd started but never finished (Stuff was just getting to be WAY too much for me by 10-12F, likely due to poor Skill Point allotment and making my characters mostly glass cannons...) that the Chamomile Sigil Guardian, Ifrit, had been a slight pain for me to beat, taking a couple of tries... This time? He moved thrice. That's it. I MURDERED that thing!

I'm going to tentatively say that it was more that I wasn't a high ENOUGH level in my other run, but still... It was kind of scary seeing just how quickly that thing fell. Now if I can kill Tam's Foe like that, an enemy that basically had its way with me, I'll be VERY happy. I know it's not gonna happen unless I grossly overlevel, but still.

(For reference, I was at Reimu 19.)

Kanoe · « **Reply #843 on:** April 09, 2011, 04:51:14 AM »

I think thats how most people's first runs go. I was still learning the mechanics of the game and did poorly with skillpoints. Restarted with a new game+ save that was put up 3 floors ago on this topic (thanks Ghaleon btw) and just added the stipulation that I wouldnt use anyone except characters I unlocked in my previous save. Things went much smoother my second time around though some of it was due to the first few bosses not having Death immunity XD.

Ugh.... 50 more levels of grinding. More if I don't beat Winner on the first try.

J.O.B · « **Reply #844 on:** April 09, 2011, 05:52:58 AM »

Yay I have finally done the switch mazes and am up to the Eintei trio.
Wish me luck.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #845 on:** April 09, 2011, 06:27:45 AM »

Good freakin' luck. I've heard more than enough nightmare stories about that fight... Kind of looking forward to it when I get that far though, since it'll be that much more rewarding once I'm victorious. (Much like beating ***WINNER***, I'm sure, is one of the more satisfying wins in a game simply due to the outrageously insane time investment needed in order to do so, given the levels people seem to fight him at...)

Pesco · « **Reply #846 on:** April 09, 2011, 06:32:15 AM »

I don't know what's wrong with you people. The only hard part for me in the Eientei fight was counting damage :/

J.O.B · « **Reply #847 on:** April 09, 2011, 06:47:42 AM »

What level were you then?

Pesco · « **Reply #848 on:** April 09, 2011, 06:59:34 AM »

Don't remember, but I knew Patchy could kill Eirin or Kaguya with exactly 6 Royal Flares. That's all I could afford with my SP pool.

J.O.B · « **Reply #849 on:** April 09, 2011, 07:00:57 AM »

I see. What strategy would you reccommend then?

Pesco · « **Reply #850 on:** April 09, 2011, 07:23:52 AM »

PAR lockdown on Reisen. Try kill Eirin and Kaguya on the same turn. If you kill one, focus down the other before they use their game over attack on you. Reisen is a useless bunny that you can kill at your leisure.

J.O.B · « **Reply #851 on:** April 09, 2011, 07:25:25 AM »

Who would you reccomend being in the party for the battle?

Ghaleon · « **Reply #852 on:** April 09, 2011, 07:48:01 AM »

Entei was never all that tough for me either, and I don't even bother counting hp. I just roughly guesstimate that I need to do 2X the damage to Eirin than I do Kaggy, and factor in any heals done. IMO hardest earlyish boss is Youmu, and even then only if she abuses wind karma slash (like she did a fuckton of in my first playthru).

For the Entei trio, having Reimu+patchy is pretty much all that's needed to make em easy, have whoever else you like, I suggest people with relatively high mnd (or china) since physical attacks aren't really a threat (if at all? I forget). As long as you don't debuff em to make kaggy stone bowl, or you don't get nailed by really nasty debuffs from Reisen (keep her paralyzed) it should be fine.

NEETori · « **Reply #853 on:** April 09, 2011, 09:43:12 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on April 09, 2011, 07:48:01 AM

For the Entei trio

Suicune will rape your team with Calm Mind boosted Froggie Braves the Elements, while Entei smashes your tanks with Fireball, and Raikou Heaven's Lightning spams. Sorry, couldn't resist myself :V

On a more serious note, basically, it sums up to buffing Patchy up, letting her burn things down with Royal Flare, and paralyze lock Reisen. Oh, and debuff the crap out of her and Eirin once Kaggy goes down.

draganuv15 · « **Reply #854 on:** April 09, 2011, 12:35:04 PM »

yoo, I'm back on this part of the forum again coz I just started again.
and I'm on Floor 3! yehhh i know but i used the NG+ file and here's my party so far.

Front Line:

Tenshi: Lvl 9 (Tank)
Keine: Lvl 9 (Buffer)
Utsuho: Lvl 8 (Nuke, no pun intended

)
Mokou: Lvl 8 (Mage)

Backup (No Lvl since I forgot :/)

Minoriko (Healer)
Mystia (Debuffer)
Yukari (Closet Space)
Komachi (Backup Tank, Unfair Damage Dealer)
Kaguya (Buffer)
Eirin (Healer)
Yuyuko (Grim Reaper)
Ran (Mage)

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #855 on:** April 09, 2011, 01:27:50 PM »

How do you even use the NG+ file anyhow?

Pesco · « **Reply #856 on:** April 09, 2011, 03:41:57 PM »

Stick it in your save folder. Rename it save1, save2 or save3. Load the game.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #857 on:** April 09, 2011, 04:45:33 PM »

I tried that, but all it did was give me only Reimu and Marisa, nobody else.
Not even Remi, Sakuya, and Patchy, who you're supposed to start with.
Wonder if it's a bug? Or maybe I have the wrong version?

EDIT: Ohwait, there they are. I found everyone.

yoshicookiezeus · « **Reply #858 on:** April 09, 2011, 05:06:02 PM »

Just got back into this game, and after getting Reimu up to level 450, I gave the Serpent of Chaos another attempt. I think I'm getting closer: everything went really well until halfway through the second phase, when Iku got sniped by a fourth-slot Steel Slasher. With no offensive buffs for Exorcising Border I lost Yukari to an overdose of physical attacks, and then Meiling got a Thousand-Handed Kannon to the face right at the start of the third phase. And finally, to end the whole trainwreck, a Magical Hellfire got through Reimu's 28 PAR resistance, leading to her just kind of sitting there alone tanking magic for a whole four turns before she went down. :V

On another yet related note: Iku has got to be one of the most useful people in my party right now. She's probably indirectly the cause of about a third of the damage my nukers do thanks to her amazing buff, and there's no way I could have gotten this far with my only healer being Reimu (and Meiling, though she hardly counts) without it.

Lastly, why won't the 30F randoms drop any equipment for me D:

Kanoe · « **Reply #859 on:** April 09, 2011, 06:24:28 PM »

They drop eventually. Just takes awhile. The problem is not the drops but the specific drops I want. I want Eggs not Judas Pain and Miogarana's Scales. But hey, those can be sold for skillpoints at least.

RegalStar · « **Reply #860 on:** April 09, 2011, 09:13:32 PM »

Quote from: Kanoe on April 09, 2011, 06:24:28 PM

They drop eventually. Just takes awhile. The problem is not the drops but the specific drops I want. I want Eggs not Judas Pain and Miogarana's Scales. But hey, those can be sold for skillpoints at least.

You can remedy that problem by fighting only the v3s that drop the stuff you want, though.

J.O.B · « **Reply #861 on:** April 09, 2011, 11:43:46 PM »

The Eientei Trio was way oversold on the wiki.
The funny thing was that Reisen gave me the most trouble by killing most of my party members after the other two died.

Kanoe · « **Reply #862 on:** April 10, 2011, 12:51:13 AM »

Yep... Level 550 Reimu isnt good enough for Winner yet. Mainly I'm lacking good affinity gear. Thought spamming defense buffs would help which it does against the physical attacks but the elemental attacks pretty much takes my entire party to 50% assuming it doesnt kill them outright. X.X

EDIT: Leveled some, had no luck with drops but decided to give it another try with another 20 levels of affinity for my tankier peoples. Lost half my people but managed to win. I think Mystia's poison helped some that or i really lost count of damage. Also I think I was super lucky cause the only final phase thing it used was that green flare thing which hurt but it wasnt any healing or mass para or invulnerbility, just raw damage.

Time for New Game+ *thuds*

Second EDIT: Well for some reason some of my characters have varying amounts of exp starting out. Guess I will just keep using the Plus save I originally borrowed. Silly bugs. Think my party will be...

Komachi
Remillia
Iku
Keine
Renko
Sanae
Rumia
Youmu
Shiki
Marisa
Yuka
Maribel

Mainly I just picked characters I haven't used or did not really use much in past saves.

Esoterica · « **Reply #863 on:** April 10, 2011, 07:55:31 AM »

I think I'd make a point of swapping someone for either Meiling or Tenshi. Komachi and Remilia don't compare when it comes to tanking, and I find both of them to be more effective built for atk anyway.

Kanoe · « **Reply #864 on:** April 10, 2011, 01:31:48 PM »

I already beaten the game with Meiling and Tenshi. If I wanted more effective I would also drop Keine for Reimu and Rumia for anyone else XD. Also Im not going to use Remillia for main tanking. Playing with Meiling and Tenshi, two tanks is not really that necessary especially with Meiling. Find the second slot is better for a tanky support character like Yukari or Iku. Thanks though!

Ghaleon · « **Reply #865 on:** April 10, 2011, 04:46:33 PM »

Problem is komachi isn't a tank so much as a ratetsu fist sponge, counting on her as your only tank, without minoruke to heal to boot is going to be pretty interesting. Sanae is not really a healer, she's too slow, heals aren't big, and she's exceptionally squishy for a support character. Shell be needing to heal herself as often as komachi. You can do it anyway with some leveling, but you WILL need to overlevel some fights without a real tank.

Pesco · « **Reply #866 on:** April 10, 2011, 04:56:36 PM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on April 10, 2011, 04:46:33 PM

minoruke

Eeewww Ghaleon ships MinorikoxRinnosuke :V

Esoterica · « **Reply #867 on:** April 10, 2011, 05:51:14 PM »

I found Sanae to be a decent enough healer, personally. Just give a bit of attention to her speed. Obviously she doesn't do pure healing as well as Minoriko, but I find the status healing and improved buff to be worth it.

Kanoe · « **Reply #868 on:** April 10, 2011, 08:44:03 PM »

Ok, used an older version of Labyrinth of Touhou and the New Game+ file works just fine, no extra exp on some characters. Anyone have a New Game+ save that works for the Special Disk version?

Rather not start with a level 30 Komachi XD.

Pesco · « **Reply #869 on:** April 10, 2011, 08:51:27 PM »

The save file is for Special Disk. Dunno what could have happened with your game.

Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 6F (Read 183712 times)

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