Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 6F (Read 183712 times)

NEETori · « **Reply #630 on:** February 24, 2011, 07:10:26 AM »

Reisen is a goddess as long as the enemies aren't too damaging for her to survive once she's buffed, and they aren't resistant to fire and/or debuffs.

Seriously. She probably did 40% of the damage to Yuuka for me. And her debuffs are awesome time when they land.

Nitori's damage output is only matched in certain situation. Matched. That's right.

RegalStar · « **Reply #631 on:** February 24, 2011, 09:01:30 PM »

Does anyone know what's the story behind that supposed Disgusting Malice on 1F? I have never seen it, ever, and I kind of want to take it on for this runthrough since well, it's a free zodiac stone which I can use for Yuyuko or something.

Parallaxal · « **Reply #632 on:** February 24, 2011, 10:30:24 PM »

I've done 4 playthroughs of at least the main game, and 2 of the Plus Disk, and I still have no clue how I'm even suppose to find the Disgusting Malice. It's a complete mystery to me as well.

By the way, thanks for setting up the format for the other spell pages on the wiki. That really saves me a lot of trouble. I'll get to work on that soon, just let me get over all the attention I'm paying to Dissidia 012 first...

Garlyle · « **Reply #633 on:** February 24, 2011, 10:45:57 PM »

Quote from: RegalStar on February 24, 2011, 09:01:30 PM

Does anyone know what's the story behind that supposed Disgusting Malice on 1F? I have never seen it, ever, and I kind of want to take it on for this runthrough since well, it's a free zodiac stone which I can use for Yuyuko or something.

I really don't know myself! I have a suspicion that it's either an old-version-only thing, or there's some special condition to make it appear.

Either way I really don't know D:

EDIT: "Old Version Only" seems likely, actually - I can't find it in the database
EDIT 2: No wait there it is...
...now what the heck IS it?

Milkyway64 · « **Reply #634 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:19:36 PM »

It's possible it may be a random encounter in that area? I dunno, I spent a little while running up and down that strip looking for it and training for Youmu and no luck.

RegalStar · « **Reply #635 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:49:46 PM »

Quote from: Japanese WIki

すすり泣く声1を踏まずに美鈴を倒した場合のみ

From what I can tell, it looks like you have to defeat Meiling without triggering the first "heard Meiling crying" event (by utilizing a shortcut). in that case I screwed myself out a guaranteed Zodiac Stone. Sigh.

Tangrelle · « **Reply #636 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:23:28 AM »

Pretty much. You gotta go past the first meiling event and loop around to the bottom. There's one of those one-way paths that lead to the second Meiling crying event. Then after you beat Meiling, if you then go through the first event, you'll find Disgusting Malice where she was.

He's sort of a meanie if you try him right after Meiling though.

Axel Ryman · « **Reply #637 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:58:52 AM »

That he is. All his attacks hit everyone, and he has Destroy Magic. Definitely not recommended to fight unless you're on the 2nd-3rd floor.

Rukoto · « **Reply #638 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:02:18 AM »

I've plowed through most of the V2 bosses (with varying levels of success). Stll got

Spoiler:

to plow through. And 12F team V2 was suprisingly easy to plow through,

Spoiler:

@Disgusting Malice: Guess I got another reason to do a second playthrough of this game.

Milkyway64 · « **Reply #639 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:47:41 AM »

Disgusting Malice is officially the most obscure optional boss in the game, possibly the ONLY obscure boss. Hopefully his fight isn't disappointing.

RegalStar · « **Reply #640 on:** February 25, 2011, 02:37:45 AM »

The database doesn't even list a script. From its stats it looks like a slightly souped up Youmu's Ghost, with Destroy Magic, Purple Paralysis Cloud, Wind of Souls and Medium Bind (WTF?).

It doens't look that assuming to me. It's like a more durable but less hard hitting Peg Insect.

Parallaxal · « **Reply #641 on:** February 25, 2011, 02:40:08 AM »

Wow, I can't believe it. This is like when I was 11 years old and surfed to the truck and tried to use strength to move it, except this time it actually worked.

It exists.

Rukoto · « **Reply #642 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:41:51 AM »

Quote from: Parallaxal on February 25, 2011, 02:40:08 AM

It exists.

Will definitely check this out on an eventual NG+ run... 4 V2 bosses, 3 seal bosses, and 10 floors to go! Did you find it by the method described earlier by Tangrelle?

Parallaxal · « **Reply #643 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:55:15 AM »

Yep, use the shortcut to skip the first Meiling event and defeat Meiling, then go back to the event and another boss icon will spawn.

Wasn't able to find out how strong it is, although you can get an idea by looking at its stats in the database. I fought it with a NG+ file where I transferred skill levels. As it turns out, my level 1 Nitori can break 10k damage.

The funniest thing about it is that it actually has its own unique dialogue for its event. I posted some of the images in the Pooshlmer thread. It's mostly just Reimu and Marisa cracking jokes about how you're not suppose to skip events like that.

Eliirae · « **Reply #644 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:16:00 AM »

Wow, that's....Really freaking awesome.

I'll have to try it sometime when I get around to playing the game again.

Parallaxal · « **Reply #645 on:** February 25, 2011, 07:49:21 AM »

One more page of spells:

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou/Spells/Nature

Ghaleon · « **Reply #646 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:19:40 AM »

Isn't it also one of the quasi-minibosses required on floore 6-8 or something. like the ghosts komachi makes you kill or something.

anyway I vaguely recall hearing it spawn where meiling is but didn't really care enough to verify or whatever, kinda cool to know you guys did >=P.

Pesco · « **Reply #647 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:22:00 AM »

Komachi's ghosts don't appear unless you talk to her. Same as Orin not appearing unless you trigger Yuyuko.

RegalStar · « **Reply #648 on:** February 25, 2011, 03:14:30 PM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on February 25, 2011, 09:19:40 AM

Isn't it also one of the quasi-minibosses required on floore 6-8 or something. like the ghosts komachi makes you kill or something.

anyway I vaguely recall hearing it spawn where meiling is but didn't really care enough to verify or whatever, kinda cool to know you guys did >=P.

I think you're thinking about the butterflies that Tenshi wants you to kill. Disgusting Malice is something else.

Parallaxal · « **Reply #649 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:04:54 PM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on February 25, 2011, 09:19:40 AM

Isn't it also one of the quasi-minibosses required on floore 6-8 or something. like the ghosts komachi makes you kill or something.

That would be the Calamitous Soul, actually. Looks identical to the Disgusting Malice, but has different attacks, stats, and drop.

Paper Conan · « **Reply #650 on:** February 25, 2011, 08:07:45 PM »

Wheeeee~

I just beat Kaguya's Foe and Flandre! (Both fights ended sooner than expected after I finished training) :V
Oh, and Kaguya made Flandre's fight stupid easy. I could either just buff Patchouli while she did Silent Selence, or even better, do Hourai Barrage for an easy 45k (without buffs)!

~~Now all that's left is...... Yukari.... :ohdear:~~

EDIT:
Whoops, I also beat her right now.

Minoriko must be a fucking goddess or something.... (oh wait.... she is :3)
Not only can she heal a lot of HP and buff DEF and MIND for an extremely cheap amount of SP, but her Falling Leaves of Madness can also do 15k-23k damage to Yukari for only 20SP~
Minoriko was my main attacker, tank, buffer, healer, and member-who-switches-other-members-on-her-free-time throughout the entire fight.......

...Kaguya was my second in command throughout the fight, though. It's barely the second fight I use her and yet she has proven herself to be awesome in almost every way possible.

RegalStar · « **Reply #651 on:** February 25, 2011, 08:35:29 PM »

Don't worry, Yukari is easy as long as you abuse her weakness to debuffs and properly resist against WND.

Rukoto · « **Reply #652 on:** February 26, 2011, 12:13:59 AM »

Just got the star for V2 bosses today. And I broke a new personal damage record with Marisa again (976k :V). Now for the remaining bloody seal bosses and then it's plus disk time. Currently sitting at Reimu 169.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #653 on:** February 27, 2011, 08:40:22 AM »

After around 2 weeks-ish of gaming, I beat the freaking winner, and oh god I LOVE you Mystia.

For the serpent of chaos, do not ask how I won, as I am not aware of it myself, after seeing both keine and meiling (major tanks) getting scourged, I went into a panic, thankfully yukari with spiriting away/IN quadruple barrier and reimu with exorcism border/great hakurei barrier SOMEHOW managed to make youmu, mystia (Who died just before the fight ended), kaguya and reisen win the fight.

Then, the hibachi twins, I used mainly kaguya as for some unsurprising reason hourai barrage dealt 2mil damage to both at the same time, with okuu's giga flare dealing 1mil to both. Hooray.

And then, the freaking winner. Oh god.

It took me TWO DAYS OF GRINDING to win. But with mystia being able to spam ill-starred dive with a whooping 1mil damage UNBUFFED this fight was not too hard, until of course he used berserker mode and nuked both meiling and keine. Thankfully. MASTER SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARKKKKKKKKKKKKK did 7mil damage and finished him off.

I can now die a happy man.

Rukoto · « **Reply #654 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:38:18 PM »

After being pounded on by Dual Hibachi several times, I decide to explore some of the plus disk floors. I've mapped all of 21F and 22F for all I can, get to 23F and-

Floor trash is getting quite bulky now. Any good strategies for taking out the Dual Hibachis, or should I continue exploring the plus disk? Currently at Reimu 182.

Axel Ryman · « **Reply #655 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:28:57 AM »

Use any attacks that ignore defense, and do your best to kill them both at the same time. Do not use Composite Attackers unless you're using them for healing/buffing.

RegalStar · « **Reply #656 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:31:15 AM »

Each Hibachi has 1.5m HP, and the first one to reach 500k HP drops down to 1 HP. It will then go berserk four turns from then.

So, deal a bit more than a million damage to one Hibachi, and wail on the other. If it dies before the 1HP hibachi takes four turns, great. If not, kill the 1HP hibachi before 4th turn comes and wail on the other Hibachi some more.

BTW, Kaguya is great in that fight because Hourai Barrage carves quite a chunk of HP out of both of them. Kanako is also decent since she got a spell that targets DEF (that actually does damage, unlike Alice's MND targetting spells).

Rukoto · « **Reply #657 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:53:39 AM »

Thanks for the tips; the Dual Hibachis are finally felled in large part of ~~NEET~~ Hourai Barrage. Also, why do Meiling and 18F keep dying on me? I can only seem to keep Remi alive of the main tanks I use :V

Aaaand I guess back to the plus disc.

RegalStar · « **Reply #658 on:** March 01, 2011, 03:36:56 AM »

Do you have a habit of spamming Defensive buffs like I did with my old team? They go a long way in helping any tanks not named Komachi to survive.

EDIT: Also, maybe you haven't done any investments in Meiling's affinity.

Also, Rinnosuke isn't really a tank, just a "semi-tank" as I like to put it sometimes. Don't rely on him to take all the hits for you. Only Meiling can do that with everything (Tenshi/Komachi can do it with a large number of attacks, but they both have their own problems).

Rukoto · « **Reply #659 on:** March 01, 2011, 04:38:15 AM »

Quote from: RegalStar on March 01, 2011, 03:36:56 AM

Do you have a habit of spamming Defensive buffs like I did with my old team?

I Run both Reimu and Yukari for this reason, Although I've been having problems maintaining buffs with all the ray damage my characters seem to take from all the postgame bosses.

Quote from: RegalStar on March 01, 2011, 03:36:56 AM

Also, maybe you haven't done any investments in Meiling's affinity.

Meiling's affinites rage from 145-186. Is that too low? Also, she's got 31k hp, 13k def, and 8.7k mind at level 177 with equips.

Quote from: RegalStar on March 01, 2011, 03:36:56 AM

Also, Rinnosuke isn't really a tank, just a "semi-tank" as I like to put it sometimes.

He seemed to take it well before the post-game. Is the damage output of the plus disc bosses substantially higher on average?

I'm wondering if my raw stats are subpar. At most, my skill levels hit 70, but most skill levels are below 60 for my characters (although I have lots of them). I'm at Reimu 184 and trying to explore 23F now.