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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #180 on: November 30, 2010, 02:46:24 AM »
Arghblargh I totally forgot about this


Any chance to extend the deadline? Seeing as many (or, I'm assuming many) people have in progress works created especially for this, and the date's pretty flexible anyways?

On that note, I'm about to start a piano arrange (cause a recorded piano piece would be the only decent thing I can create), but my camera quality sucks; anybody willing to play for it, if the time comes?


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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #181 on: November 30, 2010, 09:14:29 AM »
Any chance to extend the deadline? Seeing as many (or, I'm assuming many) people have in progress works created especially for this, and the date's pretty flexible anyways?
Exactly, I see no problem with a deadline extension. With the great number of individual submissions, the judges could start judging those right away. And since this probably won't be done in just a day or two, the deadline gets extended until the judging is finished, and the judges just pick up new tracks/artworks when they are submitted.

On that note, I'm about to start a piano arrange (cause a recorded piano piece would be the only decent thing I can create), but my camera quality sucks; anybody willing to play for it, if the time comes?
Does this mean we would get sheet music (although I'd much prefer a MIDI file)? Meh, I'm not that good in performing, but since I have a pretty good digital piano/keyboard here, I could try.
This is a unmastered sample of what it sounds like. (Yes, that is a one-shot recording of my playing after grinding the piece for quite some time. Normally, I'm playing far worse)
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #182 on: November 30, 2010, 03:46:43 PM »
that is very nice. if only squidtentacle would appear.
else i'll have to take over dem reins...

Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #183 on: November 30, 2010, 08:33:30 PM »
Well, I myself haven't been able to do anything as far as a submission goes because of blasted college. I guess we could push the deadline a bit, maybe to the 11th or 12th. Finals should be done around that time for those of us in college, and that should give more time to work on and submit whatever people want. Sound good?

Also, Sercy, I'll get to updating the list sometime this week.
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #184 on: December 02, 2010, 03:38:44 AM »
Oh yeah, damn, I'm a judge too.
I had forgotten :V
Welp, time to start a folder and save all them submissions~

Also, gonna scan that bloody A3 tomorrow if I manage.
[20:45:19] Ciryano: come and behold why they call it the Panzerfaust
[20:45:39] Hakurei Reimu: ... because it shoots once and then you throw it out?
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #185 on: December 02, 2010, 04:35:58 AM »
Wait what's the current deadline? I forgot about this and it might motivate me to actually put out some music.

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #186 on: December 02, 2010, 06:49:59 AM »
Apparently, it's whenever the judges are out of pieces to review (won't be any time soon, that's for sure).

1 - 2 weeks, maybe?

@NL Here's a sample of what I'm trying (and failing to) compose. Can you play it (somewhat well)? Your camera quality is excellent, BTW.

http://www.zshare.net/download/833943843e5424d1/

(ignore the fail in the right hand, I forgot to switch to treble clef at the end, and those two big pauses I still need to work on. Finally, there's no articulation for anything other than the refrain, cause I thought the deadline would be today and rushed :V)

Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #187 on: December 02, 2010, 02:09:37 PM »
Wait what's the current deadline? I forgot about this and it might motivate me to actually put out some music.

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #188 on: December 02, 2010, 04:16:37 PM »
@NL Here's a sample of what I'm trying (and failing to) compose. Can you play it (somewhat well)?
*facepalm* I did want to include something along the lines of "but please no Septette" in my last post, but then I thought "well, what's the likelihood of him bringing up this particular song, just makes me seem unnecessarily picky".

1. Because Japan putting this theme above everything else, doing yet another Septette arrange for any solo instrument is not a very unique idea, and it shouldn't be required for an album to make it popular. So much for the motivation.
2. 6 pages of sheet music is definitely too much for me. And I guess it's supposed to be played pretty fast? Even more time...
3. And since I despise this song and it's popularity, I certainly won't enjoy grinding this.

Sorry, I'm the wrong one for this.

Your camera quality is excellent, BTW.
That's because it's no camera, but the direct audio signal recorded via a cheap Line In cable. It does induce a tiny layer of noise though, but nothing too critical.
And yet another instance where expensive classical, non-digital pianos are made superfluous and bring nothing but additional hassle. May they rot in hell.

I guess we could push the deadline a bit, maybe to the 11th or 12th.
Yesterday.
Please stop confusing everyone and just either define a new date (and, very important, an exact time, complete with UTC time zone) and update it everywhere or just let the judges take over this project.
Also, if college was such a huge delay for you that you couldn't show up here (which I don't believe, since you were happily posting in other boards), why didn't you appoint a new project manager for the meantime (which, you know, should have been exactly your responsibility in this position)?
But instead, we now have this situation where nobody seems to know anything (what to do, when to finish and what exactly we are going to do after this, now that the Comiket booth plan did fail)...
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(06:42:59) Autumn: And the whole thing seems like a trainwreck right now since theres no organization and the people volunteering are confused >.>
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #189 on: December 02, 2010, 04:44:09 PM »

Please stop confusing everyone and just either define a new date (and, very important, an exact time, complete with UTC time zone) and update it everywhere or just let the judges take over this project.
Also, if college was such a huge delay for you that you couldn't show up here (which I don't believe, since you were happily posting in other boards), why didn't you appoint a new project manager for the meantime (which, you know, should have been exactly your responsibility in this position)?
But instead, we now have this situation where nobody seems to know anything (what to do, when to finish and what exactly we are going to do after this, now that the Comiket booth plan did fail)...

Drake asked when the deadline was. Note how that was in the past tense. (Fucking ignore that, apparently I'm a dumbass.) The current deadline, since I didn't hear any objections, seems to be the 12th at midnight CST.

I apologize, college is a poor excuse for not coming over here. However, maybe it's just me, but there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of confusion. Once the deadline comes, the entries will be judged for which ones will be on the album, and as far as I know, we're doing one song/piece of art per person because this is a sample album. While that's going on, I will be setting up a website to host the album on for download and also for people to donate to so that we can try making an actual CD. Finally, as far as I know, we're going to try to print out fliers to be handed out at Comiket of this year to inform people of the album. There was also talk of making a PV to garner more interest, but we don't seem to have anyone who could do that.

Is that clear enough?
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #190 on: December 02, 2010, 05:36:33 PM »
Pretty much, yeah.
NL, please calm the fuck down.

As for the judging, yeah I'll get to work on my opinion on people's works after my own is actually done.
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[20:45:39] Hakurei Reimu: ... because it shoots once and then you throw it out?
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #191 on: December 02, 2010, 06:39:54 PM »
stop stressing like this, NamelessLegacy. keep the fun in it

Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #192 on: December 02, 2010, 07:09:24 PM »
Is that clear enough?
Yup, that's much better :) So you're the one in charge of the download website.

There was also talk of making a PV to garner more interest, but we don't seem to have anyone who could do that.

Quote from: #atelier-magna
(19:57:16) Squidtentacle: I'd say you can go ahead and post it, Nameless
(19:58:59) CAsercan3: but post it!
(19:59:11) CAsercan3: if a miracle happens, it might actually work
There's your permission to post this.

You know what. I just had a great idea for a PV trailer, and since I'm also having some HD video editing software here, I'm going to do this. It's not sure anyway if I'm going to submit something on the musical side, so this is the best thing I can do for this project at the moment.

Still, I need your support.

The first thing required for the concept is a list of around 5 or 6 songs sure to be included in the album. Short samples of those songs are going to be included in the video, and the visuals are designed around those songs. Like, if it's a Septette arrange, I'll show a (highly image-processed, of course) replay of a lunatic Remilia fight and add a fitting text on top. The submissions at this point cover a range wide enough for a trailer, so if the music judges would start right now, I can start with this.

Then, I'm going to need the artists.

For the background, I imagined any number of random locations of Gensokyo. Just draw whatever you like (although I'd like to see one of those bizarre psychedelic PC-98 backgrounds, especially from HRtP). Those don't have to be of particularly high detail level, since most of the screen is obscured with other stuff anyway, but make sure it's colored and in 16:9 aspect ratio.

Then, one drawing fitting each single song included in the video. This can be as simple as just a picture of the character of the theme playing, but I'll take anything at this point. This can be in any aspect ratio you like to draw it in (although portrait would be preferred). If it's in a non-rectangular shape, please take care that the background is clean enough (PNG alpha transparency would be even better).
Most of the artists do have pretty fitting stuff in their individual threads already. Just submit it when the time comes. It's not required to draw new stuff for this, but if you do, submit it in the album submission thread to include it in the judging.

Optionally, if one likes to draw fancy text, I may include this as well instead of some fonts. However, PNG format with alpha transparency will be recommended for this.
Also, since we want to reach Japanese people, someone to translate the little pieces of onscreen text from English into Japanese would also be helpful.

So, to sum up:
- Music judges need to give a list of like 5 or 6 tracks sure to be included in order for everything to start
- Artists draw submit a small number of random Gensokyo locations as backgrounds, not that high detail level, 16:9 aspect ratio
- Artists draw submit small image for every one of the tracks in the video
- (Optional) Someone draws fancy text, else I'm using stock fonts
- (Optional) Someone translates onscreen text into Japanese

For the artists, please reply immediately if you are interested in contributing. I will create a new thread and regularly update it if I can get enough participation.

Edit: The background artists may start right now, since those will be independent of the songs
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #193 on: December 02, 2010, 07:48:49 PM »
Hey sorry for bein MIA amigos, i should be arounda bit more often startin today. Good to know we still have some semblance of a plan =p

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #194 on: December 02, 2010, 08:35:21 PM »
Well fuck, I was planning to try to draw scenery anyway.

But the art in that video must be the art included in the album lol, so I think it's best if we wait until the deadline to make it?
I don't like the idea of putting a bunch of art in the PV and it not showing up in the final thing. It's like lying to a customer.
[20:45:19] Ciryano: come and behold why they call it the Panzerfaust
[20:45:39] Hakurei Reimu: ... because it shoots once and then you throw it out?
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #195 on: December 02, 2010, 10:22:45 PM »
But the art in that video must be the art included in the album lol, so I think it's best if we wait until the deadline to make it?
I don't like the idea of putting a bunch of art in the PV and it not showing up in the final thing. It's like lying to a customer.
After thinking about this for a little while and talking with the others in the channel, it seems that we have enough pictures which can be used for the songs in the individual artist threads, so unless people desperately want to draw something new for this, don't care about it now. Also, I'm sure to include Squidtentacle's shimejis random MUGEN sprites for a little bit of animation.
However, people should still start with the backgrounds as soon as possible. But I don't think there will be that many artists for this, and even then, I just take everything I get, so a separate deadline and judging won't be necessary. Just take your time with this.

Also, it's not like anything would be stopping us to include the trailer art in the final thing as well. Seeing as this will currently be download only, the art probably is going to be presented in some kind of JavaScript slide show and distributed in a zipped directory, so there's no upper limit to what will be included.
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #196 on: December 03, 2010, 12:42:04 AM »
Heheh I guess all these years of art class making me draw scenery will finally help me!
But I have a question. If I wanna draw, as an example, Misty lake, can I put some fairies in it?

Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #197 on: December 03, 2010, 12:59:32 AM »
Heheh I guess all these years of art class making me draw scenery will finally help me!
But I have a question. If I wanna draw, as an example, Misty lake, can I put some fairies in it?
Sure, that makes it more lively. I'd recommend positioning them more on the left/right edges instead of the center. This way, they won't get obscured by the gameplay scene or the additional picture.

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #198 on: December 03, 2010, 01:51:37 AM »
Up until December 12...I'd be able to submit two more entries. XD

Anyway, good luck with the art entries. We need more art~ XD

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #199 on: December 03, 2010, 01:55:36 AM »
Heheh I guess all these years of art class making me draw scenery will finally help me!
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[20:45:19] Ciryano: come and behold why they call it the Panzerfaust
[20:45:39] Hakurei Reimu: ... because it shoots once and then you throw it out?
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #200 on: December 04, 2010, 01:49:51 AM »
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #201 on: December 04, 2010, 03:33:35 AM »
Oh man somehow I completely missed out on this!

It's too late for me to contribute a song (and since it's live instruments I have no idea how good it'd sound when recorded anyway) but maybe the "real thing" or next time or what not, still a big confused with what's going on even after reading the thread.

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2010, 06:58:51 AM »
Oh hi triangles :3
You should come more often~

Let me tl;dr for you:
We're trying to release an album online, to gather attention to the Atelier and maybe raise funds for an actual physical CD.
For that we gathered artists and musicians. That's about it.
Oh, and you can submit older work, or just re-record something you've already done.
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[20:45:39] Hakurei Reimu: ... because it shoots once and then you throw it out?
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #203 on: December 04, 2010, 01:54:27 PM »
Oh man somehow I completely missed out on this!

Didnt I send ya a message like... Months ago though =o?
It's too late for me to contribute a song (and since it's live instruments I have no idea how good it'd sound when recorded anyway) but maybe the "real thing" or next time or what not, still a big confused with what's going on even after reading the thread.

Haku seems to have hit the nail on the head =p

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #204 on: December 04, 2010, 06:41:27 PM »
I seeeeeees.
No recording time for me before the mid-December deadline I can say that much due to ~*~real life~*~ heck probably not until March on the realistic side  :ohdear:

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #205 on: December 05, 2010, 04:54:16 AM »
Wait, there isn't a deadline for [art] submissions anymore, or has it just been pushed back?

I might have one more picture to contribute.
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #206 on: December 05, 2010, 06:16:47 AM »
Wait, there isn't a deadline for [art] submissions anymore, or has it just been pushed back?

I might have one more picture to contribute.

The 12th is the deadline for absolutely everything. We start judging then.
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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #207 on: December 05, 2010, 07:25:13 PM »
I'm temporary back  :3

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Well, looks like organization's been taken care of heh.

So what's the plan of advertising this project? I know it's supposed to be on a site or something, but did anyone create it or is in charge of it (Squid right)? Also, how we do plan on putting this together? Are we going to smack everything together into some zip folder and put a download link to it or aim for something else...?

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Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #208 on: December 07, 2010, 03:51:46 AM »
I'm temporary back  :3
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Well, looks like organization's been taken care of heh.

Welcome back Fally~

Yeah man, squidy's got stuff under control as far as the website =p Not too sure about the packaging though...

Re: [Music+Art] Awesome Atelier Album Project DISCUSSION THREAD
« Reply #209 on: December 11, 2010, 11:23:06 AM »
Another question regarding the trailer: Do we have some kind of entity who presents this project? It seemed that "Alice's Art Atelier" was decided as the circle name a few pages back, so are we running with that?

It would be nice if the art judges could decide on some kind of logo for this entity then.
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