Okuu Quest After - A Z-Machine Adventure

[Doll.S CUBE]

> "What made you think this is about Pride? What you did was wrong and I'm just trying to set everything right again, changing what made them, them, its very sickening"

[Hello Purvis]

>"Is there any way I can prove to you that this isn't just about pride? Is it so hard for you to believe that I honestly care about people, and don't like seeing their lives locked away from them by someone else?"

>"Is there?" asks Kanako. "Have you spared a thought for anyone else? For your own Satori and Koishi, who no longer hide themselves away? Is this what it means to care for you?"

> "So, the argument boils down to you're right because you're you. And you call ME the prideful one? I am amazed at how much of a hypocritical bitch even a god can be."
> Say the above matter of factly, not raising your voice or anything.
> "So basically I'll have to copy Reimu's performance from awhile ago? For someone who seems to think I'm a loose cannon, I think you have suddenly dipped yourself into a worse track record."
> Charge the cannon
> If she notices and reacts to it, say "Please wait. I'm pretty sure you have spellcards. You kinda left me without any. I think it's fair I at least get a 50% head start if we much fight. If' you'd prefer a peaceful resolution, I'd still prefer the insurance."
> If she doesn't notice just keep talking.

>"And again," says Kanako, shaking her head ruefully, "you prove my point."
>"Are you certain you wish to be doing that, Utsuho?"

> "What made you think this is about Pride? What you did was wrong and I'm just trying to set everything right again, changing what made them, them, its very sickening"

>"Consider some of the things you've said, and tell me how one is supposed to think anything else."

>_

[DracoOmega]

>"Yes, I know what you mean to say. But did even you ask Satori? I would like to be able to talk to the others, and see what they honestly feel. Whether they honestly feel they have gained more than they've lost. Can you make that possible?"

[Doll.S CUBE]

> "Can you truly say this is what everyone wanted"

[Seian Verian]

> "I'm not asking for the world back just at my word. I'm not that selfish. What I'm asking for is to give those affected a choice! The other Gensokyo wasn't that horrible, it didn't have everyone being oppressed and senselessly slaughtered at a cruel ruler's whim. And neither is this world some perfect utopia! Do you know what's been happening to Akyu? Do you? She's being blackmailed, having to live in fear! Can you really say that she's better off?"

[UncertainJakutten]

> "Well, what's your suggestion for a peaceful resolution? I'm sure a god as gracious as you is willing to at least have a somewhat even fight. Unless you plan to toss me a couple of my spellcards, that'd be pretty cool actually."
> "See, the trouble here is, you won't explain yourself. So, all we know is that you've taken Gensokyo hostage, and plunged everyone into a new world with new memories without their permission. All because you apparently think it's right. Again, what makes that different from Yuka thinking that the flowers growing year round superceded the comfort of Gensokyan citizens? What makes that different from Yorihime thinking that Patchy needed to be arrested for an accident? Instead of addressing these, you've decided to claim you're right because, well, you're you. How is this at all not an incident? And since you put Reimu out of commission, someone has to solve it."
> "Despite your beliefs to the contrary, I'm not unreasonable. If you can explain to me how this is justified and not an incident, I'll go quietly. So, why are you so averse to explaining, hiding under a false pride?"

[UncertainJakutten]

> "Oh, also, you keep saying Satori and Koishi, and maybe a few other name drops. Besides the fact my impression is you didn't ask Satori, isn't that still following the incident model? Doing something drastic on the behalf of a few people? I daresay I'm caring more about the citizens of Gensokyo than you right now. I'm worried more about the greater good of those citizens as opposed to the desires of one or two of them. Life is unfair, but that hasn't changed in this new world. I can't imagine I'm the only one who's had to go through this rigmarole because you all forced this world upon us. Having to feel the utter wrongness of this world. In fact, I know Orin has been as well. That's another indication this is an incident, I believe."

[Hello Purvis]

>"Yes, I know what you mean to say. But did even you ask Satori? I would like to be able to talk to the others, and see what they honestly feel. Whether they honestly feel they have gained more than they've lost. Can you make that possible?"

>"Not with as much trouble as you've caused," says Kanako. "Perhaps if you hadn't given Sanae such a hard time, I might have considered it. How can I expect you to keep your pique in check now?"
>You are charged to 10%.

> "I'm not asking for the world back just at my word. I'm not that selfish. What I'm asking for is to give those affected a choice! The other Gensokyo wasn't that horrible, it didn't have everyone being oppressed and senselessly slaughtered at a cruel ruler's whim. And neither is this world some perfect utopia! Do you know what's been happening to Akyu? Do you? She's being blackmailed, having to live in fear! Can you really say that she's better off?"

>She nods. "There are problems here, that is true. But this trouble of Akyu's, can it not be solved here?"

> "Well, what's your suggestion for a peaceful resolution? I'm sure a god as gracious as you is willing to at least have a somewhat even fight. Unless you plan to toss me a couple of my spellcards, that'd be pretty cool actually."
> "See, the trouble here is, you won't explain yourself. So, all we know is that you've taken Gensokyo hostage, and plunged everyone into a new world with new memories without their permission. All because you apparently think it's right. Again, what makes that different from Yuka thinking that the flowers growing year round superceded the comfort of Gensokyan citizens? What makes that different from Yorihime thinking that Patchy needed to be arrested for an accident? Instead of addressing these, you've decided to claim you're right because, well, you're you. How is this at all not an incident? And since you put Reimu out of commission, someone has to solve it."
> "Despite your beliefs to the contrary, I'm not unreasonable. If you can explain to me how this is justified and not an incident, I'll go quietly. So, why are you so averse to explaining, hiding under a false pride?"

>"You know what is necessary for a peaceful resolution."
>"What is different? Yuka did what she did to ultimately serve herself. Yorihime sought out Patchouli to satisfy Lunarian Law. What I did, I did for love."

> "Oh, also, you keep saying Satori and Koishi, and maybe a few other name drops. Besides the fact my impression is you didn't ask Satori, isn't that still following the incident model? Doing something drastic on the behalf of a few people? I daresay I'm caring more about the citizens of Gensokyo than you right now. I'm worried more about the greater good of those citizens as opposed to the desires of one or two of them. Life is unfair, but that hasn't changed in this new world. I can't imagine I'm the only one who's had to go through this rigmarole because you all forced this world upon us. Having to feel the utter wrongness of this world. In fact, I know Orin has been as well. That's another indication this is an incident, I believe."

>"You worry so much about a nebulous greater good whose definition keeps changing you would take away what they have made for themselves and put them back into their old problems. I name Koishi and Satori because you know them, because if you were thinking of others, you would not be so eager to put them back where they were. As for the sense of wrongness, I can treat it, this you know."

>_

[UncertainJakutten]

> "A band aid never cures the wound. Suppressing the truth won't make it go away. This cycle will repeat endlessly. And I think neither of us wants that hell. I just want to know why you didn't give anyone a choice?"

[DracoOmega]

>"There must be something I can do to convince you I'm sincere. Whether you believe me or not, Sanae attacked first. I defended myself because I didn't want her to do to me what she said she would do. I don't want to fight you either, if I don't have to."

[communist unity (comm-unity)]

> Have we ever gone full out in a fight? Barring all rules
> If we did, how badly would we hurt ourselves or the terrain around us?

[Kilgamayan]

> "Wait. You did this "for love"? Hah! You really ARE Queen Inferiority Complex! Wow, and here I was just trying to get under Sanae's skin. Who knew a god would have had self-esteem issues?"

[DracoOmega]

Do you REALLY need to keep insulting her? Even if it's satisfying, I can't see how it's doing anything but making her more convinced that she's right

[Doll.S CUBE]

> "Wait. You did this "for love"? Hah! You really ARE Queen Inferiority Complex! Wow, and here I was just trying to get under Sanae's skin. Who knew a god would have had self-esteem issues?"

> Don't say this, we really don't want to rile her up, were trying to keep this peaceful

[Kilgamayan]

Nothing anyone is doing is doing anything but convincing her she's right. I pointed this problem out way back during the Sanae fight, but people didn't listen to me.

[Hello Purvis]

> "A band aid never cures the wound. Suppressing the truth won't make it go away. This cycle will repeat endlessly. And I think neither of us wants that hell. I just want to know why you didn't give anyone a choice?"

>"I agree. I would take further steps to make certain it would not happen again, and more vigilant. It will not happen again, I promise you."

>"There must be something I can do to convince you I'm sincere. Whether you believe me or not, Sanae attacked first. I defended myself because I didn't want her to do to me what she said she would do. I don't want to fight you either, if I don't have to."

>"If you do not wish to fight, why are you drawing energy into your control rod? Have I made a single hostile motion yet?"

> Have we ever gone full out in a fight? Barring all rules
> If we did, how badly would we hurt ourselves or the terrain around us?

>You came close back when you decided the world needed to be on fire.
>You'd probably cause a lot of collateral damage and deaths.

>_

[DracoOmega]

>"Why am I charging? To be honest, because I have a hard time trusting you right now. Messing with people memories like this is about the biggest kind of trust violation you can do. I don't trust that if I let my guard down for a moment, you won't just lock me away again. I don't want to have to use this power."

>"I stand firm by what I said earlier about actually talking to the others. Is there anything I can do as a show of good faith than I can feel comfortable you won't capitalize upon?"

[Doll.S CUBE]

> "I am merely preparing to defend myself, you know I don't want to go with you, and that only leaves force. So what will it be? We don't have top fight if you don't push the issue"

> Could there be anyone trying to sneak up on us?

[Seian Verian]

> "I am merely preparing to defend myself, you know I don't want to go with you, and that only leaves force. So what will it be? We don't have top fight if you don't push the issue"

Don't say this, just go with what Draco said. This sounds more hostile than we need to be right now

[UncertainJakutten]

> "Didn't you think you got it right this time? How will you being 'more vigilant' prevent anything?"

[Hello Purvis]

>"Why am I charging? To be honest, because I have a hard time trusting you right now. Messing with people memories like this is about the biggest kind of trust violation you can do. I don't trust that if I let my guard down for a moment, you won't just lock me away again. I don't want to have to use this power."

>"I stand firm by what I said earlier about actually talking to the others. Is there anything I can do as a show of good faith than I can feel comfortable you won't capitalize upon?"

>She nods, then says, "There is really no way I could do it without running the risk of you destroying things at this point. Your rashness, alone, has shown I cannot trust you."

> "I am merely preparing to defend myself, you know I don't want to go with you, and that only leaves force. So what will it be? We don't have top fight if you don't push the issue"

> Could there be anyone trying to sneak up on us?

Don't say this, just go with what Draco said. This sounds more hostile than we need to be right now

>You consider whether anyone could be sneaking up on you. That would be Koishi's speciality...and you know she has at least one other possible ally in Suwako.

> "Didn't you think you got it right this time? How will you being 'more vigilant' prevent anything?"

>"Do you really believe that you reunited with your youkai self by accident?"

>_

[DracoOmega]

>"Destroying things? How many things have I honestly destroyed since I gained my power back? One jet tire, by my count."

>"By accident? What do you mean?"

[UncertainJakutten]

> "Ohhhhhhhh? This is interesting. I assumed it was because you screwed up, given how antagonistic things have been so far between us. Is there something you'd like to say? I really hope this isn't going to turn into 'I wanted to make an example of you' cause that'd be kinda mean and also kinda toilet about 90% of your arguments right now."

[Kilgamayan]

> "And we had permission to destroy that jet tire. I wanted to just take the keys, but jets don't have keys, or something."

[Seian Verian]

> "If I intended destruction, I have had more than enough opportunity to do so already. I... Am aware that my track record in the other world is, um, not a good one... I honestly do not believe my actions during that particular incident can be excused, but have I not shown that I have no desire to destroy things in this world? I didn't even really hurt Sanae any more than enough to get her to surrender... Surely you don't believe that I am going to suddenly start destroying things again?"

[Doll.S CUBE]

> "Ohhhhhhhh? This is interesting. I assumed it was because you screwed up, given how antagonistic things have been so far between us. Is there something you'd like to say? I really hope this isn't going to turn into 'I wanted to make an example of you' cause that'd be kinda mean and also kinda toilet about 90% of your arguments right now."

> Don't say this, seriously, we don't want to prove her right

[UncertainJakutten]

>Prove her right about what? I see nothing there that demonstrates her point. Say what I said.

[Doll.S CUBE]

> You know, we don't want to be aggressive, we want to make it look like she's the one who wants a confrontation

[UncertainJakutten]

> It's not that aggressive. It's merely closing off one of her excuses by pointing out it causes a logical inconsistency. It's banter with teeth, sure, but it's still well within the realm of banter.

EDIT: Wait, you don't seriously think a fight is avoidable at this point, do you? Buying time is all well and good but you still want to maintain control of the conversation, as well as try to get her angry. Angry people make mistakes.

EDIT EDIT: Reread what you said. And, "making it look like she started the fight" is basically throwing away initiative. I don't see any reason to blast her in the face yet, but we WANT control of this conversation, even if it's forcing her to fight. But, as I said, this banter isn't yet fighting banter, it's just a rather patronizing way to ask for explanation.

[communist unity (comm-unity)]

> "Honestly, Kanako, I just want to go home. Not to some fake imitation of it."
> "A fake gensokyo is just that. A fake. No amount of pleasure will make it more valuable or desirable than the true one."