Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)

[Dory]

Why do I suck at Touhou  I have been playing IN since 2006, and I practiced MoF + SA + PCB + IN a lot last years, yet I can only 1cc MoF on normal, and with a lot of bombs.

[TheMasterSpark]

Why do I suck at Touhou  I have been playing IN since 2006, and I practiced MoF + SA + PCB + IN a lot last years, yet I can only 1cc MoF on normal, and with a lot of bombs.

I recommend that, for training purposes, you should start playing Lunatic instead. I went straight for Lunatic when I got into the series (without any shmupping experiences prior to it) and while the first six months was like a living hell, as long as you keep a good spirit you will eventually rise above your limits and slingshot yourself to power.

Srsly.  :]

[Zengeku]

it's easier than Medoteko
but that doesn't mean it's easy

They are both easy.

Are we still trying to say UFO is memorization-based?

Its kinda true too. If not memorization of specific movements then its having to know a lot of stuff about each individual spellcard.
But okay, if memorization is not a valid argument against UFO then i'll just say this;

Pre-UFO games are superior to UFO because there is no Ichirin in them.

Feels sleepy man :V

If you use every bomb in the game you will probably arrive at Yuyuko with 2 or 3 lives which should be enough for the 1cc :3
EoSD is the same, I guess. Last time I died three times with full bombs in stock max lives btw and still got half of Scarlet Gensokyo down.

PCB definitely is very easy. But Alice is still the hardest Stage 3 except for Ichirin. And Youmu's boss fights' pretty good too. (Mainly because of HGS is fun)

:trollface:

Points to you for making my day.

Does it count if I use the safespot? :V

NO.

Well, for me its harder to dodge with safespot than just reading the pattern so maybe.

[The Greatest Dog]

Silver Medaled B1's Gengetu Rape Time, Normal.

...

I'm having a lot more fun with the game once I turned the input lag off. "Automatic" >>>>>>>> "Normal"

[Barrakketh]

I don't think it sucks that much, especially with hitbox patch (which solved my main gripe about it).
Sure there is no cherry/human-youkai/faith/communication/ufo, or anything like that,
but I don't think that makes it not fun.

The characters feel slow as hell, especially Reimu.  (It's like Yuka found her way into EoSD and dressed up as Reimu.)

[Bananamatic]

alice is 20x easier than yuugi tbh

[Aquila]

Strangley enough in my opinion SA was the easiest clear I've had to date (on easy). Beating Utsuho with about 5 lives to spare but then I put it on Normal and I barley make it to Orin. And then I try any other game on easy and I stock up about 7 lives by perfecting stages 1-3 then loose almost all of them in seconds.
(Trying to stay OT)
Recently: 1cc Mystic Square, Marisa, Easy

alice is 20x easier than yuugi tbh

IMO Yuugi's danmaku is trickier but Alice's are prettier.

[Bananamatic]

patterns don't kill
bullets do

[ふねん1]

The characters feel slow as hell, especially Reimu.  (It's like Yuka found her way into EoSD and dressed up as Reimu.)

If you ask me, Marisa is too fast in EoSD. Even with a long time to practice, and with a less sensitive keyboard, it can still be really hard to micrododge with her (that's just me though). Reimu's speed is not bad at all, and I've occasionally used her when I felt like I needed more precision.

[Bananamatic]

EoSD would be much more fun if the hitboxes were clearer...and same as the late games.
Fireball bullets still scare me.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Memorize a UFO route.

I have stage 1 memorized, I have stage 2 memorized, I have stage 3 memorized, stage 4 really can't be memorized, I have the first half of stage 5 memorized.

Many spellcards are dodging though, but there's a few annoying memorization required ones(Parasol Star Memories as one)

A 1cc would be more a matter of me not derping than something I can't handle. I could 1cc UFO Lunatic if I did not mess up stage parts, I could 1cc UFO Lunatic if I didn't derp up the bosses.

[Arcengal]

alice is 20x easier than yuugi tbh

Yuugi has one hard attack (3rd non-spell). Alice has...almost everything except her last non-spell as being tricky. On Lunatic anyway.

[Zengeku]

alice is 20x easier than yuugi tbh

 

Maybe that just means that you find Alice to be really easy. I really like that boss fight even though she isn't that hard. The hardest attack she has is probably her 1st spellcard. That involves some pretty fast dodging. Then there is the 2nd spellcard which isn't hard at all. Then there is the 3rd spellcard which is tough-ish because of its density but nothing outside of that.

Final spellcard is pretty easy too.

Yuugi? She is similar to an extra boss. You have to know how to deal with the attacks but once you do the boss is pathetic. Tbh.

[ふねん1]

I just captured "Greatest Treasure" (Lunatic) twice in a row.

I don't know what to make of this.

[Dory]

Just cleared SA on normal with Aya. Got 6 lives at the end of Satori, 4 at the end of Orin and 0 live 0 bomb at the end of Okuu

I recommend that, for training purposes, you should start playing Lunatic instead. I went straight for Lunatic when I got into the series (without any shmupping experiences prior to it) and while the first six months was like a living hell, as long as you keep a good spirit you will eventually rise above your limits and slingshot yourself to power.

Srsly.  :]

Hmm... you're probly right.

Edit: Oooo the forum actually recognizes that I'm using openSuSE

[MTSranger]

I recommend that, for training purposes, you should start playing Lunatic instead. I went straight for Lunatic when I got into the series (without any shmupping experiences prior to it) and while the first six months was like a living hell, as long as you keep a good spirit you will eventually rise above your limits and slingshot yourself to power.

Srsly.  :]

Yeah, I started out in hard, and moved to lunatic mode pretty soon after.
Lunatic SA stage 4 practice helped me clear the normal mode one no death.
I mean, once you get used to the craziness of lunatic, you won't panic in normal mode anymore.

It is hard though, so you will need to practice mode many many times just to be somewhat reliable.

[Jaimers]

Playing on lunatic is also a great way to boost your confidence on lower difficulties. I definitely recommend playing above your skill level to get better.

I mean, how do you think I got so good so fast?  :V

That's a terrible score  >:|

That's a terrible game.

Spoiler:

Compared to C67

[The Greatest Dog]

I learned how to graze for survival and score at the same time.

lol

[Bananamatic]

what exactly is "graze for survival"

[The Greatest Dog]

When grazing gets you two free lives.

[Bananamatic]

oh, 12.8
never got into that one

[The Greatest Dog]

Once you realize the only thing that contributes to getting more lives is the amount of damage that you deal, it's pretty great.

No more red ufos is great.

[Paper Conan]

Well, one way to get better at touhou is by playing StB and clearing it (3 months worth of training  :V)...

Btw, I think UFO is only memorization with some characters (Reimu A, Marisa A), but it's also dodging with others (Reimu B, Marisa B, Sanae A, definately Sanae B).

The only memorization you have to do is to learn what kinds of UFOs appear and where...

(This is my opinion, please don't flame me :ohdear:)

[ark]

IN Lunatic Stage 3 Perfect

This took too many attempts.

[Zengeku]

Gold medalled two spells in Fairy Wars Normal. Star Sign "Twinkle Sapphire" is still massive bullshit that i have no idea how i'm supposed to capture. A clear sign that ZUN's brain isn't functioning optimally.

But i managed to at least capture Light Sign "Rutile Flection" and Sunfire "Ice Dissolver". The game is fun despite its bullshit.

No more red ufos is great.

Yup. And I gotta admit that i like the game too. Just not its extra stage. (Worst since SoEW. yuck!)

IN Lunatic Stage 3 Perfect

This took too many attempts.

Hey! Nicely done. I'll download your replay and study your approach to the stage portion. There is one single reason that i opted for Perfect Keine (pretty easy btw.) instead of Perfect Stage 3.

[Bananamatic]

I always got 2 misses vs Keine :derp:

[Dory]

Well, one way to get better at touhou is by playing StB and clearing it (3 months worth of training  :V)...

I have to agree. StB is the only thing that forced me do Lunatic on a regular basis >.> I could not even 1cc Easy on anything before. After 2 months struggling with StB (and some DS) I managed to 1cc normal MoF, IN and SA. I'm stuck at StB stage 10 with 52 clears, tho. Dunno how to get 66 clears >_<. Still in the progress of training...

For some reason Orin's first stage in DS seems very doable yet I couldn't clear it even after 249 tries...

[The Strongest]

Some new ones:

IN Route A Hard 1cc (I figured out Marisa/Reisen for the most part, but Eirin was a bombfest)
SA Normal clear (still need a 1cc)
MoF Normal clear, MoF Easy nodeath 1cc, MoF Normal Kanako nodeath
UFO nodeath Byakuren Easy
IN "Possessed by Phoenix" capture

[ark]

I'll download your replay and study your approach to the stage portion.

I haven't quite figured out how to do the part after midboss properly, so it's half luck there. (And I did some silly stuff on midboss so ignore that :V.)

[scherzo]

I haven't quite figured out how to do the part after midboss properly, so it's half luck there. (And I did some silly stuff on midboss so ignore that :V.)

The solution is to grazegrazegraze (demonstration, alternate [better on post-midboss]).