Author Topic: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)  (Read 135716 times)

Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #180 on: July 31, 2010, 08:20:05 AM »
And 'grats to SenSageUn. Don't listen to Banana, a first lunatic 1cc is good even with a broken shot type.

That is as long as he promises to do one with a proper character later on.

Now I will feel guilty about this until I use a less-broken shottype (tbh I only used SakuyaB because I was sick of getting destroyed by Stages 2 and 5 with MarisaA ;_; )

Stage 2 is trivial like there was no tomorrow. If anything, you can memorize it. I usually just hang around the bottom corners and weave back and forth the bottom of the screen whenever enemies appear. Stage 5 has one difficult spot. If you can just bomb that you should be in the clear.


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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #181 on: July 31, 2010, 09:01:10 AM »
Aww. Would you argue that the Netherworld Team in IN is broken?

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #182 on: July 31, 2010, 09:07:08 AM »
That is as long as he promises to do one with a proper character later on.

Noooo, it's good anyway. I don't see why we have to bring elitism into this. The guy just 1cc'd lunatic after trying for so long, stop trying to cheapen it. :|

Aww. Would you argue that the Netherworld Team in IN is broken?

Not at all. If any team is broken in IN it's the border team.
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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #183 on: July 31, 2010, 11:30:02 AM »
MoF extra cleared. I know some people say it's the easiest, but it really took a while...
Suwako's last card is easy for a last card, and Suwa War only gets bad in the last 10 sec,
which probably helped a lot I guess...

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #184 on: July 31, 2010, 12:55:03 PM »
Noooo, it's good anyway. I don't see why we have to bring elitism into this. The guy just 1cc'd lunatic after trying for so long, stop trying to cheapen it. :|

It's not like he did MoF with 3.xx MarisaB.
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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #185 on: July 31, 2010, 01:26:43 PM »
SO I saw FoxFanatic's 90 FPS IN Extra clear.

Here's my 90 FPS IN Extra run

6 spellcards captured so I barely missed Imperishable Shooting. Also, screwed up more than I should have.

Edit:

PCB Extra 90 FPS, next up Phantasm


Edit again: Or not. Holy shit, everything rape time.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2010, 02:08:08 PM by Enigma »

Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #186 on: July 31, 2010, 04:42:09 PM »
Irrelevant, because you simply will not be able to do the spell card without using that safespot. Go on and try, you will either fail miserably or will subconsciously always move to that vertical line to dodge the suns.
See, that's different. The trick to trivializing Lavatein is something that is consciously done, and is completely different than the one for Ten Evil Stars in that you will come directly into the area where you'd safespot whether you want to or not. I've tried doing Ten Evil Stars without the safespot, and like I said I captured it by squeezing into the safespot line whenever the suns drew close.
I hope this works out. When you say "using the safespot" though, exactly how lenient are you? I have the feeling ZUN meant for the suns' hitboxes to be smaller to make the attack a bit more reasonable, though he obviously didn't notice the safebox it created (this assumes the safebox wasn't intentional, of course). I know I stayed along that line a couple of times in the process of circling around (because I knew I didn't need to move that far out of the way of each sun), but in my defense I don't think I was ever between two suns while along that line. My approach was more, dodge one sun at a reasonable distance, then dodge the second by moving behind the first, and repeat. But I guess you're the real judge of how well I did that.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #187 on: July 31, 2010, 10:07:02 PM »
I have done Ten Evil Stars without safe-spotting too and so has Formless i'm pretty sure. Its not that its particularly hard to do but as Donut says; its something you do unconsciously because you know its possible.

I also got a million points on 11-8 in DS. Turns out the WR is 1.7 million. I could get something in the vicinity of that if i could just land those 300K shots everytime! :)

I can't because i suck though.

Noooo, it's good anyway. I don't see why we have to bring elitism into this. The guy just 1cc'd lunatic after trying for so long, stop trying to cheapen it. :|

Not at all. If any team is broken in IN it's the border team.

What? Trying for long at PCB? Really? That's totally easy!

That's probably how i sound. I didn't mean to. I apologize. I just meant to say to SenSageUn that he should try and get a clear with a forward-focus character of preference sometime. That just feels more right than barely scrubbing a 1cc through resource abuse. Trust me. I know about it. Until then, yes. He should feel happy.

With regards to IN Team.

Rather broken than worthless or memorization dependant. But all that is something people will disagree with so lets just say that i love the Marisa fight but find Reimu's fight pretty... bad. That boils the choice down to Border Team and Ghost Team. Ghost Team is like SA MarisaA. If you were unfocused as Yuyuko focused as Youmu they would be great but in order to keep any real damage up with Youmu you will have to hug the bottom to keep Myon aiming upwards. And it will make the stages much more complicated. As you will probably want to be focusing during boss fights you will have a very weak shot.

EDIT: Got 11-8 up to 1.1 million.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2010, 10:13:23 PM by Zengeku the Viking »

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #188 on: July 31, 2010, 10:23:53 PM »
Quote from: some people
PCB w/ SakuyaB is loleasy

I had 1cc'ed 8 of the games (everything included, except StB - which I also had cleared) before I finally got my SakuyaB PCB clear  :V

Said 8 games didn't include MoF  :o

Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #189 on: July 31, 2010, 11:51:45 PM »
I had 1cc'ed 8 of the games (everything included, except StB - which I also had cleared) before I finally got my SakuyaB PCB clear  :V

Said 8 games didn't include MoF  :o

I'd say the game is loleasy even without Sakuya. Cherry-borders. Lots of lives. Pathetic final boss.

Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #190 on: August 01, 2010, 12:01:43 AM »
And yet I can still consistently fail anywhere between 5-7 of her attacks.

Now Kaguya, that is a mostly pathetic final boss.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #191 on: August 01, 2010, 12:03:26 AM »
changed to reimuB when princess tenko was impossible
was my first lunatic 1cc and didn' t take that many tries...it's just a matter of not screwing up

Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #192 on: August 01, 2010, 12:04:28 AM »
Except Princess Tenko is never impossible, until you try it 90 FPS. I couldn't even use my usual strategy.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #193 on: August 01, 2010, 12:23:34 AM »
Just captured the original "Danmaku Bounded Field" for the first time. And by the way, no safespot on the fourth wave.

Also of note, I ended up activating the BoLaD safespot by accident, if that means anything (because I'm normally against safespots).
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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #194 on: August 01, 2010, 12:24:48 AM »
I've never safespotted that wave as I don't trust myself to do it.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #195 on: August 01, 2010, 12:27:39 AM »
The safespot is more dangerous than actually dodging it...it's not hard to do properly at all :V

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #196 on: August 01, 2010, 12:30:12 AM »
And yet I've been having trouble finding videos of people not using the safespot (or bombing) on the fourth wave. I never thought it was hard to do normally either.
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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #197 on: August 01, 2010, 12:34:38 AM »
I'd say the game is loleasy even without Sakuya. Cherry-borders. Lots of lives. Pathetic final boss.

Yes, it is easy, we already got it. That was not the point of that post though.

Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #198 on: August 01, 2010, 12:38:25 AM »
I've never uploaded any Phantasm runs, but my Profound field capture does not use it either.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #199 on: August 01, 2010, 12:51:28 AM »
ITT elitism

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #200 on: August 01, 2010, 01:41:34 AM »
This reminds me that I never bothered to capture "Phantasm, Foam, Shadow", and that I believe I'm a better person for it.


Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #202 on: August 01, 2010, 01:54:05 AM »
That's probably how i sound. I didn't mean to. I apologize. I just meant to say to SenSageUn that he should try and get a clear with a forward-focus character of preference sometime. That just feels more right than barely scrubbing a 1cc through resource abuse. Trust me. I know about it. Until then, yes. He should feel happy.

So, because the resources are there for me to use, I shouldn't use them?

Great, I'll keep the advice in my mind next time I'm playing MoF! God damn, what an idiot I was before!
« Last Edit: August 01, 2010, 04:45:42 PM by SenSageUn »

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #203 on: August 01, 2010, 02:33:30 AM »
Bah. I just realized how many lolcaptures I have as replays in UFO. Two no-focus captures of Murasa's survival on Normal, a damn near perfect run of Byakuren while no-focus Normal except for one bomb. A perfect Normal Shou while focus-tapping to the music.

But about the Netherworld Team, if you actually try to use Youmu's shot unfocused and you get hit... Deathbomb and you get Yuyuko's Win Sign "Skip to Next Spellcard".

Although it still means having to go unfocused, meaning ridiculous Youmu speed and manipulating Myon. Aside from that, you do get the strongest shot and the strongest deathbomb.

And Youmu's regular bomb is stronger than her deathbomb.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #204 on: August 01, 2010, 04:04:08 AM »
And Youmu's regular bomb is stronger than her deathbomb.
But either will end just about any attack in the game if you're hitting with it.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #205 on: August 01, 2010, 04:29:29 AM »
But any regular bomb only takes one bomb.

2 x 1600~ (I can't recall off the top of my head)
vs
1 x 1300

If you only have one bomb left, it's probably better to use Yuyuko's deathbomb anyways.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #206 on: August 01, 2010, 07:30:18 AM »
I bothered to try PCB Hard today, since I hadn't 1cc'ed that yet. Went in without having memorized anything. Did it first try, SakuyaB, 3/3 left, and a few of the deaths were with 4 bombs in stock.

Damn Merlin, I wasted 4 bombs on her opener.

I suppose I'm improving...

Anyway, that makes four Hard 1ccs.

Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #207 on: August 01, 2010, 05:22:11 PM »
So, because the resources are there for me to use, I shouldn't use them?

Great, I'll keep the advice in my mind next time I'm playing MoF! God damn, what an idiot I was before!

Just forget everything i said. Its just me who tend to be a perfectionist at heart and doesn't really feel satisfied if i just barely win. I want to win with several lives in stock or it will most likely feel like a fluke unless something compensates for it.

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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #208 on: August 01, 2010, 09:05:18 PM »
Just 1cc'd Phantasm Romance Another Mode. Of course, in doing this I realize that not only is the special Yukari boss fight unavailable if you lose even one life before stage 4, but you also lose out on your chance to play extra (which is what I REALLY want to be able to do, since extra Reimu looks like a lot of fun). Also Mima is a really annoying boss. Why do half her attacks involve spawning things on top of you?
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Re: Nobody Cares How Bad You Are at Touhou! (Accomplishments IX)
« Reply #209 on: August 01, 2010, 09:13:02 PM »
Just forget everything i said. Its just me who tend to be a perfectionist at heart and doesn't really feel satisfied if i just barely win. I want to win with several lives in stock or it will most likely feel like a fluke unless something compensates for it.

If you're always winning with several lives in stock that's a sign you should be trying something harder instead of fooling around below your current level. Scoring, challenge runs, another game, whatever.

If you're not consistently winning with several lives in stock, then these are the flukes, not the 0/0 clears.