Why do you hate DotA, or consider it a really bad map/game?

[Iryan]

I am also very relieved that despite my massive fanboying over DotA no one has called me some sort of elitist faggot asshole.

This is a touhou forum, so we'd have to be highly hypocritical for that, wouldn't we?  BV

[Prody]

Deep inside everyone, DotA is a good game! There's a reason why its probably the most popular game in my country at the moment.

[Sen]

It spawned that goddamn Basshunter song that everyone at my school overplays

I actually have never played DotA but I also have never had any interest in playing it. But if people want to play, let them play, it's just a game.

[shadowbringer]

>> I'm sorry but you have to understand that people in general do not have the patience to spend that much time simply learning how to play something to the fullest.

I'm really far from knowing how to play DotA to its fullest, and that doesn't prevent me from having fun learning and exercising my virtues (and trying to work around my deficiencies.. memory not being an issue, thankfully). Anyways, it's normal that someone who has more knowledge and developed skill in a game (and have compatible virtues) will have an advantage over those who're lacking in them. This example you gave, about learning how to deal with the other heroes and how to do teamwork could apply to other games as well (the former, mostly; the latter.. not as much), such as fighting games.

Perhaps where we're seeing potential (I mean, the fun in seeing possibilities in the game/map), you're seeing a huge, unenjoyable barrier to entry. I would recommend (again, for this reason -- the barrier to entry feeling) that you don't try to learn too much at a time..  (you could read this article) ..and try to enjoy the ride, rather than focusing only in getting to the point where you can play the game "fully" (which is a relative notion, anyways. There's a long, endless road, and you're supposed to be enjoying it, rather than trying to pretend it didn't existed like the bullies do :p)

[Ghaleon]

Perhaps where we're seeing potential (I mean, the fun in seeing possibilities in the game/map), you're seeing a huge, unenjoyable barrier to entry. I would recommend (again, for this reason -- the barrier to entry feeling) that you don't try to learn too much at a time..  (you could read this article) ..and try to enjoy the ride, rather than focusing only in getting to the point where you can play the game "fully" (which is a relative notion, anyways. There's a long, endless road, and you're supposed to be enjoying it, rather than trying to pretend it didn't existed like the bullies do :p)

I'm not saying that's why *I* personally dislike dota. This entire thread is asking why people hate DoTA, I did give my own personal reasons (largest being RTS games involving use of playing a single hero being just not being the kind of game I like). But I'm talking about this learning curve business because it was brought up to begin with on the first post, and I wanted to communicate that that learning curve is actually a VERY valid reason to not like the game  in the eyes of most people. Most people don't like learning games, you are playing some card game with 5 guys, and some new guy wants to play, he wants to learn it in 1 game or 2. DoTA simply is not that kind of game.

I personally love complicated games (dota I wouldn't call complicated though, just a large selection of heroes with abilities, and a large shop).

[trancehime]

But I'm talking about this learning curve business because it was brought up to begin with on the first post, and I wanted to communicate that that learning curve is actually a VERY valid reason to not like the game  in the eyes of most people.

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I NEVER SAID IT WASN'T A VALID REASON THOUGH

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i could fix that for you if you like

no

(i asked for that anyway(

[Blackraptor]

I like playing DOTA with friends casually just to kill time and laugh at each other. It's a great multiplayer game but yeah, I sucked very badly when I was starting out. It takes a bit to get past the learning curve but it's nothing insurmountable and there are places to go to read up on the game to learn the ropes yeah?

As far as the whole 'assholes' thing goes...that is why I rarely play with random strangers. Even when I do, I make sure I stay quiet and just play the game.

Friendly 6 vs 6 matches are a great way to pass the afternoon if you don't have anything else to do.