"Haaaaaaaaaalp ;O;" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)

[Formless God]

There is always the thing about her 4th non-spell. And i'm pretty sure there is a safespot at the bottom of the screen right on top of the enemy marker during her 3rd spell.

Fixed Stars has a safespot at the bottom ? :/

[LHCling]

Also, I could use some help with supergrazing "Three Sacred Treasures - Country" with border team. I have a replay where the player controlling scarlet team alternatively places Remilia within the circle that spawns the red knives and grazes the blue knives on the outside of its respective circle. I can't duplicate this, due to a) Yukari's slow speed and b) somehow always directing Keine to the top of the screen, where dodging the blue knives becomes impossible. Help?

Replay (for the curious).

• With the Border Team's slow speed, you may want to consider unfocusing for a bit when moving around, particularly when trying to get into the zone in the first place. The loss of profit from doing this is minimal.
• In this replay, I believe that I moved into the "dead zone" for most (if not all) of the blue waves.
• With that said, if Keine spawns her familiars such that they're close to the top of the screen, take advantage of said zone to give yourself room to actually graze bullets. Yes, this does cut into your overall Graze / Spell Card Bonus / Time, but there's not much that can be done about it. For a half-comparison, see: supergrazing Unzan's eye; have fun dodging lasers to conserve Resources / maximize Graze returns.

_{I'd like to throw in the off-comment that this attempt was actually executed quite poorly (on the blue ones!), though this was probably a given considering that I'm hardly practiced at doing this specifically.}

Fixed Stars has a safespot at the bottom ? :/

p sure it was a brain fart and he meant the 3rd Non-.
EDIT: Speaking of, if Okuu moves down the screen that spot becomes immediately invalid (well, on Lunatic at least).

[Bananamatic]

Well, out of like 30 fights with Utsuho it happened to me only once, and I could have even been in a wrong place :V

[Zengeku]

p sure it was a brain fart and he meant the 3rd Non-.
EDIT: Speaking of, if Okuu moves down the screen that spot becomes immediately invalid (well, on Lunatic at least).

Yeah, that was what i meant. Though i have hardly ever had that happened to me. Maybe i just get lucky all the time but i really don't know how to predict where the bullets will strike if i don't rely on it. SA gives you lives enough to gamble anyway.

[Jaimers]

There are actually a few tricks for Utsuho. By going right after she fires the bubbles on her second nonspell it becomes a lot easier to dodge. For the second round go left instead and then right again etc.
It's the same for her last nonspell, instead it's reversed (left, right, left etc)

EDIT: Speaking of, if Okuu moves down the screen that spot becomes immediately invalid (well, on Lunatic at least).

For Marisa yeah. It still works for Reimu.

[Bananamatic]

For Marisa yeah. It still works for Reimu.

And seeing how everyone uses Reimu except for Baity... :V

[Naut]

And seeing how everyone uses Reimu

y'all're wussies

[ebarrett]

y'all're wussies

no, we just suck at touhou

[Naut]

no, we just suck at touhou

did you just imply that you need to be good to use Marisa

because I said nothing about doing well with her

[Bananamatic]

did you just imply that you need to be good to use Marisa

you have to be dumb or Baity to use her

[LHCling]

did you just imply that you need to be good to use Marisa

* Baity briefly impersonates naut

* Naut scrunchfaces

EDIT: Clarification

Spoiler:

I'm echoing this statement

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you have to be dumb or Baity to use her

y'all're wussies

n
you just have not be a wuss
don't fear the bullet, graze it

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Unless you're playing UFO, then she's the only worthwhile choice. EoSD as well has her as the best choice.

[GenericTouhouFailure]

I FINALLY 1CC'd PCB GUYZ THANKS FOR THE TIPS!
In other news: I clipped resurrection butterfly on the exact last second

[LHCling]

HUEG LETTERS

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6619.0

In other news: I clipped resurrection butterfly on the exact last second

* Baity briefly impersonates naut

* Naut scrunchfaces

I know Naut that much to say this.

Unless you're playing UFO, then she's the only worthwhile choice. EoSD as well has her as the best choice.

With regard to survival? Score? Probably survival. You left off SA which arguably has the most broken Shot Type in comparison to the other ones.

[Bananamatic]

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6619.0
I know Naut that much to say this.
With regard to survival? Score? Probably survival. You left off SA which arguably has the most broken Shot Type in comparison to the other ones.

>comparing shottypes
>SA

lol

[GenericTouhouFailure]

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6619.0

Whoops, Got abit carried away

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Okay, SanaeB too.

It's a matter if you want more trouble on stages or more trouble on bosses.

[scherzo]

With the Border Team's slow speed, you may want to consider unfocusing for a bit when moving around, particularly when trying to get into the zone in the first place. The loss of profit from doing this is minimal.

I figured out the problem I was having: I was actually being too aggressive in getting into the 'dead zone', and thus directing Keine incorrectly (Keine tries to move towards where you are slightly after the circle stops firing knives). With the exception of the opening wave, I can and should stick to focused movement.

There are actually a few tricks for Utsuho. By going right after she fires the bubbles on her second nonspell it becomes a lot easier to dodge. For the second round go left instead and then right again etc.
It's the same for her last nonspell, instead it's reversed (left, right, left etc)

Utsuho fourth nonspell is static (or essentially so) and can be dodged the same way every time. Her second nonspell isn't, though it probably rotates among a fixed set of patterns.

[ふねん1]

Utsuho fourth nonspell is static (or essentially so) and can be dodged the same way every time. Her second nonspell isn't, though it probably rotates among a fixed set of patterns.

For both, the rows of metal-fatigue bullets have slightly randomized angles, meaning that the safest areas during each wave will change a bit. The fourth nonspell is perhaps more static than the second due to lower density though. The attacks rely essentially on knowing which way to stream the bubbles.

And speaking of her third nonspell, the pattern is completely static relative to Utsuho. The "safespot" at the bottom-center is part of the bullet layout, and the reason it seems to disappear is because Utsuho moved down and thus moved the pattern with her. I don't think she ever moves up or down that much at any one time, but I prefer to only use that safespot on the first wave, even if I see her move up.

[Bananamatic]

Aren't "metal fatigue bullets" only the EoSD ones with huge hitboxes? :V

[ふねん1]

I know about that, but I still call them "metal-fatigue" just because I have no other name for that kind of bullet right now.

[GenericTouhouFailure]

Back for more help

pcb extra STAGE portion Marisa A. No  lolhueg sakuya a spread so what to do? run around like an idiot, clip bullets? also, Red Oni Blue Oni Is alot harder with Marisa A since no homing means no left right streaming instead up down which results in death

[Zengeku]

You'll have to learn the stage instead of relying on spread. That's basically the solution. The beginning of the stage is very simple. After mid-boss Chen things will pick up some pace. It might be best with a bomb if you want to collect all the point items without dying.

I suggest you watch a replay of the stage. As for Blue Oni Red Oni i recommend you stream up and then down. Its much harder than Ran's version. If your skills are basic like most people attempting extras for the first time then i recommend bombing it as it might be too much for you.

I usually handle it by streaming upwards and dodging whatever gets in the way and then shotgun Chen (that's with ReimuB though) and then start moving down again when she starts aiming things for you again.

[Bananamatic]

ReimuB has shotgun? :V

[Zengeku]

I'm pretty sure she does greater damage at close-range yes. Its nothing i have really taken note of but that's what they say.

[LHCling]

ReimuB has shotgun? :V

I'm pretty sure she does greater damage at close-range yes. Its nothing i have really taken note of but that's what they say.

Oh come now, don't excuse yourself like that by saying "that's what they say" and shift the burden of proof / incorrectness to the "rest of us". Have some confidence or a solid opinion!

consult with your local optometrist kthx bnnm

Spoiler:

WRT damage, it's p minor. However, WRT Cherry...

I know about that, but I still call them "metal-fatigue" just because I have no other name for that kind of bullet right now.

Then may I suggest, ADD!Metal-Fatigue bullets? Given that the respected bullets have properties that are completely different (hitbox size being one of them). Also, I believe you missed out on the point of "essentially so"; it means that you can follow the path in the general sense and end up surviving at high odds.

I figured out the problem I was having: I was actually being too aggressive in getting into the 'dead zone', and thus directing Keine incorrectly.

Hm, that's definitely a common problem and I overlooked that because I thought you would've known about it already. Well, I can probably attribute it to the partial vagueness of the question  :V

[Zengeku]

Oh come now, don't excuse yourself like that by saying "that's what they say" and shift the burden of proof / incorrectness to the "rest of us". Have some confidence or a solid opinion!

What good is confidence if you aren't a 100% sure its true? I haven't personally tested it. I just mentioned that i have been told that there is indeed shotgunning.

And what does opinion have to do with anything here?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Tips for Lunatic Reimu in PoFV?

Specifically her as the final boss in Shiki's story.

[Angel on the Steps]

[Edited out because my brain wasn't functioning]

Is there a trick to Cranberry Flan Trap besides "stay somewhere in the middle, and dodge"? I can't figure out how the pattern works at all, and I fear this card as much as the final (non-berserk) phase of QED!

[Bananamatic]

uhh, it's actually aimed
hard to describe, just move through the walls instead of being in the middle