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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #570 on: April 27, 2011, 04:57:47 AM »
Oh wait, nevermind, my problem is the spell card, inverted things :|

 :V
Well, look for the largest gap I guess... I can time this out reliably no vertical.
However, what you can do is to proactively move up through the gaps in the yellow bullets so that you don't get trapped.
The red bullet are aimed, btw.

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #571 on: April 27, 2011, 05:02:23 AM »
Oh wait, nevermind, my problem is the spell card, inverted things :|

 :V

Either way, care to send us a replay?

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #572 on: April 27, 2011, 05:06:46 AM »
Either way, care to send us a replay?

Will do soon enough

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #573 on: April 27, 2011, 06:40:40 AM »
The spellcard? Well that just causes for higher difficulties all the more. On normal iirc its just bullets that go down the screen. On Hard and Lunatic there is crisscrossing bullets and therefore way more dangerous. It would really be benefitial to you to go practice those. And yes, a replay will definitely be appreciated.

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #574 on: May 03, 2011, 04:03:58 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC1UvbrKfMQ

Tried this for a laugh.
Failed.

Any suggestions on how to dodge the second to last wave, assuming I get lucky enough to get there?
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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #575 on: May 04, 2011, 09:18:50 PM »
Maze of Love: Is it easier to attempt to micro-dodge or just circle around her?

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #576 on: May 04, 2011, 09:32:22 PM »
Maze of Love: Is it easier to attempt to micro-dodge or just circle around her?

Circles imo. Micrododging in game like EoSD, like the hitboxes can be hit-or-miss, might not be the best plan. Simply believe in the power of your hitbox and dodging around in circles becomes the norm.
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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #577 on: May 05, 2011, 01:19:49 AM »
Maze of Love: Is it easier to attempt to micro-dodge or just circle around her?
I always prepare to bomb (survival and graze) and micrododge. Timing bombs and micrododge is imo the most reliable way.
If you are Reimu, then you can potentially capture the card reliably with micrododge. Marisa is like 10x harder, but 1 bomb should do.

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #578 on: May 05, 2011, 01:24:13 AM »
Greatest Treasure and Radiant Treasure Gun, any tricks that affect bullet movement, or is it just hoping for something good?

Any tricks to Shou's second noncard outside of be fast?

Byakuren's second noncard

Also, does anyone have a 1.xx power route for Byakuren's second card since that'd help with it regardless of power. A safe path, not necessarily a quick one if the quick one is risky.

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #579 on: May 05, 2011, 02:22:57 AM »
Er...I probably should've included that I wanted to capture Maze of Love :derp:

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #580 on: May 05, 2011, 03:39:24 AM »
Ta-tasuketeeeeeee!!

mokou y u do dis


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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #581 on: May 05, 2011, 03:52:35 AM »
Er...I probably should've included that I wanted to capture Maze of Love :derp:
Not sure why anyone would suggest "bomb it every time" instead of learning how to get better. Circling orignally is quite difficult, but once you learn it Maze of Love becomes a cakewalk.

Greatest Treasure and Radiant Treasure Gun, any tricks that affect bullet movement, or is it just hoping for something good?
Shou's position and the lasers are static, but aside from that it's just dodge. RTG seems to randomly choose between a few select patterns or something.
Any tricks to Shou's second noncard outside of be fast?
No.
Byakuren's second noncard
Avoid the lasers above all. It's still just the sweeping motion and laser avoidance, it's just stupid hard.

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #582 on: May 05, 2011, 02:24:52 PM »
Any tricks to Shou's second noncard outside of be fast?

I tried that thing called luck and had amazing results. Its just not very dependable.

Ta-tasuketeeeeeee!!

Be more specific about what you need help for. Apply spell practice and ask about the stuff you don't understand.

Greatest Treasure and Radiant Treasure Gun, any tricks that affect bullet movement, or is it just hoping for something good?

I think for RTG there is a possible semi-static path you can follow. Its hard to explain however. I might be able to make a replay for you with it.

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #583 on: May 06, 2011, 12:56:20 PM »
LUNATIC MODO here
Sanae's moses miracle. How to not use two bombs?
While you're at it. Sanae's first spellcard. What's the path again? i can cap it on hard but not runatique wtf

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #584 on: May 06, 2011, 01:05:45 PM »
LUNATIC MODO here
Sanae's moses miracle. How to not use two bombs?
While you're at it. Sanae's first spellcard. What's the path again? i can cap it on hard but not runatique wtf
For Moses' Miracle, you need to be able to read the blue lines of danmaku as well as stream the red ones. Make sure you time your cutbacks on either side when the laser walls are retreating, so that you don't trap yourself.

And for Night with Overly Bright Guest Stars, try what I do here. I've seen others approach it differently, so check them out too if you want.
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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #585 on: May 06, 2011, 06:39:16 PM »
From what I've seen in EoSD replays, during Midboss Rumia, where exactly do I place my hitbox to get as much graze as possible? I've been trying but kept failing ;_;

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #586 on: May 06, 2011, 08:30:45 PM »
Any tricks to Shou's second noncard outside of be fast?

Well there's always that "move to the left" thing from some time ago.

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #587 on: May 07, 2011, 08:51:09 AM »
Sanae's moses miracle. How to not use two bombs?

Don't hit the X button twice.  :V

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #588 on: May 07, 2011, 02:53:43 PM »
Ta-tasuketeeeeeee!!

mokou y u do dis

Repeating what Zengeku said: what specifically do you need help with? You failed a lot of spells but sometimes it's hard to tell if you're making little mistakes or if you don't understand how to dodge them. Like, you seem to know what to do in Keine's spells but you failed both, and you failed Honest Man's Death really badly but it seemed like you knew how the laser worked, so.

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #589 on: May 07, 2011, 11:34:46 PM »
I thought I could clear Suwapyon Extra.
And then I got to the last pattern. My body was ten kinds of not ready. How do?

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #590 on: May 08, 2011, 12:15:35 AM »
Jump and dodge? Alternatively, if you're ballsy enough, you can try and adapt this  :V
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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #591 on: May 08, 2011, 12:58:42 AM »
I thought I could clear Suwapyon Extra.
And then I got to the last pattern. My body was ten kinds of not ready. How do?

Jump clockwise near the bottom-right of the screen and move accordingly to the blue BoWaP bullets.
(I'm not too sure if this will completely work...

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #592 on: May 08, 2011, 12:03:16 PM »
Honest Man's Death and Fujiyama Volcano are just hurrfests for me, so yeah, those'd be a nice start.

Is there a specific distance I should be at in HMD so that I can dodge the laser at a convenient time?


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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #593 on: May 08, 2011, 02:10:27 PM »
Honest Man's Death and Fujiyama Volcano are just hurrfests for me, so yeah, those'd be a nice start.

Is there a specific distance I should be at in HMD so that I can dodge the laser at a convenient time?

I always stay at maximum distance distance during HMD, doesn't work too bad, especially because it allows the bullets to spread a little more, giving you slightly more room. The only real problem is getting through once the individual streams of bullets start putting in a few irregularities. I always stay close to one stream so I have enough room to approach the laser when it's coming or, depending on the laser's direction, can just move through the bullets. Staying close to one stream also makes it easier to pass through once the stream breaks off.

No idea about Fujiyama Volcano, though, from my experience you can't really control Mokou's movements, so it just boils down to luck for me.

Edit: No idea if it helps, but this might make it easier to understand what I'm trying to explain. More often than not, the arrival of a laser seems to overlap with the bullet stream breaking off, which really helps. If you stay on the correct side, you won't be forced to run away from the laser due to the stream breaking off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBPmQQEHhc#t=3m10s
« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 02:16:23 PM by Lepetit89 »

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Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #594 on: May 08, 2011, 03:16:00 PM »
I'm at work right now so I can't throw a Fujiyama Volcano replay up, but here's one I did for Honest Man's Death a while back: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=13505

It's a pretty simple spell once you know how to do it. You have to move like 6 times, and you can do it the same way every time because it's essentially static.

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #595 on: May 08, 2011, 08:29:00 PM »
Fujiyama Volcano

Understandable. its one of those you'll need to figure out.
I made this video a while back. Its a no-focus timeout of the spell. Its really quite simple once you've mastered the pattern and luckily for you, there is spell practice in the game so you can just go and practice it until you can do it consistently.

The general idea is misdirection. You need to memorize the pattern of when she does what and where you need to be when it happens. Of course this is not the only way to go about it but its very safe.

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #596 on: May 09, 2011, 04:54:44 PM »
Legendary Flying Saucer.

It sucks going though this fight constantly(despite the fact that it's a fun fight not counting this and her second nonspell) just to die to this. I'd like to get this capture over so I can go after the other spellcard I need to capture from this game, which isn't as bad due to it being in the middle of a stage.

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #597 on: May 09, 2011, 07:46:48 PM »
Its designed in a way that makes it really hard if you don't like the game but pretty easy if you do.

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #598 on: May 09, 2011, 08:14:06 PM »
I still find it pretty hard :(

Re: "guize wat m i doin rong???" (Spell Card Help Topic: III)
« Reply #599 on: May 09, 2011, 08:59:55 PM »
Yeah I know. I was joking and somewhat referencing how Donut could do LFO consistently but oddly enough VoWG.